14 Jun
2005
14 Jun
'05
3:42 p.m.
Interesting,
I have an Abit AV8 with an Athlon 64 3700+ and I must say that it has
been by far my most stable system in years. I haven't had a single
crash and I am primarily using it as an audio workstation. I was going
to give the board a high recommendation. I would be interested to hear
the specifics of your hardware.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] hardware recommendations?
Hallo,
ainion hat gesagt: // ainion wrote:
Hello there. I would like to know which AMD
mainboard and which
sound
card is recommended for a small home recording
outfit?
I recently bought an ABit AV8 board and I must say: do *not* buy this
one! After three weeks I'm still struggling with getting this to run
stable without crashing all the time. Don't get the AV8!
Ciao
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14 Jun
14 Jun
4:40 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] hardware recommendations?
Hallo,
aljordan(a)maine.rr.com hat gesagt: // aljordan(a)maine.rr.com wrote:
Interesting,
I have an Abit AV8 with an Athlon 64 3700+ and I must say that it has
been by far my most stable system in years. I haven't had a single
crash and I am primarily using it as an audio workstation. I was going
to give the board a high recommendation. I would be interested to hear
the specifics of your hardware.
Well, currently there is only a Matrox G450 in it, 512MB Samsung DDR
(yes, I ran memtest), a cheap Realtek network card and a M-Audio
Audiophile. Distribution in Debian stable (sarge) in 32bit mode.
I was having sudden hangs (not even ssh or ping was possible) all the
time without doing anything specific at that time. So I went on to
disable stuff, at first Cool'n'Quiet (which is very disappointing,
because I was hoping to be able to use exactly that), then
ACPI/APIC/DMPS/APM, I "fixed" the CPU/PCI overclocking, that ABit
seems to think reasonable to have enabled as default (sic!), then I
disabled the onboard network card, Firewire, AGP Fast Write, I gave
the Audiophile its own interrupt. I couldn't do this for the GFX card,
because it seems to be impossible to give the AGP-card its own
interrupt, which is always shared with the USB hub (sic++!)
So basically I now only have things running, which I could have
running with a much cheaper mainboard, and still I got sudden hangs
and another curious kind of hang: If I switch off my monitor and leave
it switched off for some time, like half an hour or more, I also got
these hangs and freezes.
My best success then came yesterday, when in my despair I disabled the
Xfree86 screensaver ("xset s off"). After that the machine stayed
alive a whole night, even with the monitor off, and is also on since
then this day. I now will try to reenable various things again to see,
if I can get some of the features I paid 99 Euro for back again. Ah
well, these last two weeks have been a very frustrating experience,
which in great parts I must credit to the mainboard (most other
components were and are fully functional in other machines.)
Oh, and lmsensors doesn't support Abit's "uGuru" chip, because Abit
doesn't provide specs, but I found openguru, which is a reverse
engineered system monitor for Abit boards.
In my experience I must say: I should have bought MSI again like the
last five years. But as always: YMMV and it seems it did. ;)
Ciao
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15 Jun
15 Jun
12:50 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] hardware recommendations?
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 20:40 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
aljordan(a)maine.rr.com hat gesagt: // aljordan(a)maine.rr.com wrote:
You did start by loading the "Fail Safe Defaults" in the BIOS, right?
I have an old ABIT KG7, of the infamous Via686A (or B, don't remember)
northbridge, that I had constant spontaneous reboot issues with. After
trying everything I could think of, and basically writing off the
hardware as defective, I went into the BIOS and set "Super Bypass Wait
State" from 0 to 1 cycle. Bingo, never locked up again.
So, make sure any suspect BIOS options (be especially wary of anything
with a marketing-speak name and no useful help) are set to the most
conservative settings. This should be tried BEFORE pulling out all the
hardware.
Lee
Interesting,
I have an Abit AV8 with an Athlon 64 3700+ and I must say that it has
been by far my most stable system in years. I haven't had a single
crash and I am primarily using it as an audio workstation. I was going
to give the board a high recommendation. I would be interested to hear
the specifics of your hardware.
So basically I now only have things running, which I could have
running with a much cheaper mainboard, and still I got sudden hangs
and another curious kind of hang: If I switch off my monitor and leave
it switched off for some time, like half an hour or more, I also got
these hangs and freezes.
My best success then came yesterday, when in my despair I disabled the
Xfree86 screensaver ("xset s off"). 
17 Jun
17 Jun
4:05 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: hardware recommendations?
So I gather that my best bet is to avoid mainboards that have VIA chipsets.
Looking at the website of ABIT, I see that besides Intel chipsets, there are
chipsets labeled nForce. Has anyone experience stability problems with board
using nForce chipsets?
I have to really research on this before I go ahead on the hardware. Additional
links will be helpful, too. Thank you.
ainion
18 Jun
18 Jun
5:46 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: hardware recommendations?
Last Friday 17 June 2005 19:50, Lee Revell was like:
Not entirely. I have experienced difficulties installing Debian-based systems
on machines with VIA chipsets in the past. Perhaps I should try again with
the stable version of the installer.
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
So I gather
that my best bet is to avoid mainboards that have VIA
chipsets.
VIA chipsets work fine. Their bad reputation is due to poor quality
Windows drivers. 
9:56 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: hardware recommendations?
El vie, 17-06-2005 a las 15:50, Lee Revell escribió:
Same here, three machines with VIA chipset and no problems (yet).
Cheers, Damian-
"A computer is like an air conditioner. It stops working when you open
windows."
So I gather
that my best bet is to avoid mainboards that have VIA
chipsets.
VIA chipsets work fine. Their bad reputation is due to poor quality Windows
drivers.
Lee 
19 Jun
19 Jun
2:52 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: hardware recommendations?
Lee Revell schrieb:
maybe thats true ...
but i badly remeber the vt686b southbridge.
also, the linux kernel does contain some code specially for the, lets
call it unconventional, irq routing
of via chipsets.
but, yes, current via chipsets may work fine.
So I gather
that my best bet is to avoid mainboards that have VIA
chipsets.
VIA chipsets work fine. Their bad reputation is due to poor quality
Windows drivers. Lee
29 Jun
29 Jun
8:59 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] hardware recommendations?
Hallo,
LADers, please ignore this OT mail, it's just for the archives.
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
Oh, and lmsensors doesn't support Abit's
"uGuru" chip, because Abit
doesn't provide specs, but I found openguru, which is a reverse
engineered system monitor for Abit boards.
Several people already have asked me privatly, where I got this from.
I used this code:
http://hem.bredband.net/b330708/oguru/oguru.tar.gz
but there also is a Gkrellm plugin, which I couldn't make to run,
though.
Ciao
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