22 Jan
2011
22 Jan
'11
6:02 p.m.
I'm aware that Audacity and probably any other program that has access
to libsndfile functions can read and save Midi Sample Dump file format,
but is there a program for Linux that can actually transmit them over
Midi? Can you do it with the amidi command?
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22 Jan
22 Jan
9:17 p.m.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:02:17 -0600 (CST)
Brent Busby <brent(a)keycorner.org> wrote:
I'm aware that Audacity and probably any other
program that has
access to libsndfile functions can read and save Midi Sample Dump
file format, but is there a program for Linux that can actually
transmit them over Midi? Can you do it with the amidi command?
man amidi
that should be all you need
[snip]
amidi -p hw:0 -s my_settings.syx
will send the MIDI commands in my_settings.syx to port hw:0.
amidi -S 'F0 43 10 4C 00 00 7E 00 F7'
sends an XG Reset to the default port.
amidi -p hw:1,2 -S F0411042110C000000000074F7 -r dump.syx -t 1
sends a "Parameter Dump Request" to a GS device, saves the received
parameter data to the file dump.syx, and stops after the device has
finished sending data (when no data has been received for one second).
[/snip]
David
9:21 p.m.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011, David Santamauro wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:02:17 -0600 (CST)
Brent Busby <brent(a)keycorner.org> wrote:
Yes, I read all that...but should I take this to mean that a Midi sample
dump has no headers, no terminating bytes, no anything that isn't in the
file? It's like a sysex dump? I've gotten the impression from some
things I've read that Midi Sample Dump involves the receiving device
sending back acknowledgement bytes during the transfer -- maybe *too*
much...some people have said it's chatty enough to slow the transfer
down to an irritating degree. If this is all true, you probably can't
just dump a Midi Sample Dump at a device and have it receive like a
sysex dump. Or can you?
--
+ Brent A. Busby + "We've all heard that a million monkeys
+ UNIX Systems Admin + banging on a million typewriters will
+ University of Chicago + eventually reproduce the entire works of
+ Physical Sciences Div. + Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet,
+ James Franck Institute + we know this is not true." -Robert Wilensky
I'm aware that Audacity and probably any
other program that has
access to libsndfile functions can read and save Midi Sample Dump
file format, but is there a program for Linux that can actually
transmit them over Midi? Can you do it with the amidi command?
man amidi
that should be all you need
[snip]
amidi -p hw:0 -s my_settings.syx
will send the MIDI commands in my_settings.syx to port hw:0.
amidi -S 'F0 43 10 4C 00 00 7E 00 F7'
sends an XG Reset to the default port.
amidi -p hw:1,2 -S F0411042110C000000000074F7 -r dump.syx -t 1
sends a "Parameter Dump Request" to a GS device, saves the received
parameter data to the file dump.syx, and stops after the device has
finished sending data (when no data has been received for one second). 
9:49 p.m.
Brent Busby wrote:
... but should I take this to mean that a Midi sample dump has no
headers, no terminating bytes, no anything that isn't in the file?
It's like a sysex dump? I've gotten the impression from some things
I've read that Midi Sample Dump involves the receiving device sending
back acknowledgement bytes during the transfer -- maybe *too*
much...some people have said it's chatty enough to slow the transfer
down to an irritating degree. If this is all true, you probably can't
just dump a Midi Sample Dump at a device and have it receive like a
sysex dump. Or can you?
http://www.omega-art.com/midi/msds.html
Best,
dp
10:25 p.m.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011, Dave Phillips wrote:
Brent Busby wrote:
Ok, this means it should at least be possible to send raw with some
header bytes at the front, but I don't think it will work on my device
(Yamaha SY99). The SY99 has a reputation for choking on the data under
the best of circumstances, so it would probably be even worse without
the ACK's being sent back. (Though this does look like the type of
thing you could write in Perl if you wanted to...hmm.) Anyway, thanks
for the info.
--
+ Brent A. Busby + "We've all heard that a million monkeys
+ UNIX Systems Admin + banging on a million typewriters will
+ University of Chicago + eventually reproduce the entire works of
+ Physical Sciences Div. + Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet,
+ James Franck Institute + we know this is not true." -Robert Wilensky
... but should I take this to mean that a Midi sample dump has no headers,
no terminating bytes, no anything that isn't in the file? It's like a
sysex dump? I've gotten the impression from some things I've read that
Midi Sample Dump involves the receiving device sending back
acknowledgement bytes during the transfer -- maybe *too* much...some
people have said it's chatty enough to slow the transfer down to an
irritating degree. If this is all true, you probably can't just dump a
Midi Sample Dump at a device and have it receive like a sysex dump. Or
can you?
http://www.omega-art.com/midi/msds.html 
26 Jan
26 Jan
9:51 a.m.
Brent Busby wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011, David Santamauro wrote:
And many devices choke if the transfer isn't that slow.
Sending MIDI sample dumps requires a program that actually speaks
the protocol.
Regards,
Clemens
man amidi
that should be all you need
...
Yes, I read all that...but should I take this to mean that a Midi sample
dump has no headers, no terminating bytes, no anything that isn't in the
file? It's like a sysex dump? I've gotten the impression from some
things I've read that Midi Sample Dump involves the receiving device
sending back acknowledgement bytes during the transfer -- maybe *too*
much...some people have said it's chatty enough to slow the transfer
down to an irritating degree.
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