30 Oct
2010
30 Oct
'10
11:25 a.m.
Hi all,
I'm looking for a tool that can analyse an MP3 file, and write out a
polyphonic MIDI file - basically so I can have the sheet music. Can
anyone name one?
Although this is a Linux list, I don't care what platform the tool runs
on, since I will only use it once and then go away happy with my MIDI
file :)
So far I only found a demo Windows program called intelliScore
Polyphonic Demo. It's limited to the first 15 seconds but unfortunately
it made such a terrible job that I don't feel inclined to purchase the
full version.
The MP3 in question is "Vevey (Revisited)" by Yes, from their 1977 album
"Going for the One". It's a simply constructed piece of music but the
organ chords are really confusing me. I've tried to go through it and
notate it manually, but I seem to be incapable of picking the notes out
of the chords. Rick Wakeman is clearly a genius :)
http://static.jonathangazeley.com/Yes-VeveyRevisited.mp3
So, if anyone can recommend some software that can help me here, I'd be
very grateful. Alternatively, if anyone is willing to write it out for
me (MIDI, PDF, or any other decent format) then I'll make it worth their
while!
Cheers,
Jonathan
30 Oct
30 Oct
11:42 a.m.
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 12:25 +0100, Jonathan Gazeley wrote:
Hi all,
I'm looking for a tool that can analyse an MP3 file, and write out a
polyphonic MIDI file - basically so I can have the sheet music. Can
anyone name one?
Although this is a Linux list, I don't care what platform the tool runs
on, since I will only use it once and then go away happy with my MIDI
file :)
On Windows, it looks like the "Editor" edition of Celemony Melodyne
might help with this -- it's a pitch-correction program that has
polyphonic pitch editing features (pretty mind-blowing tech, really!),
and as part of that, it can produce polyphonic MIDI exports of audio
parts. It's still designed more for individual parts, though, rather
than complete tracks, so YMMV. It's also not cheap, but there's a free
demo.
Thanks
Leigh
11:45 a.m.
Excerpts from Jonathan Gazeley's message of 2010-10-30 13:25:18 +0200:
Hi all,
I'm looking for a tool that can analyse an MP3 file, and write out a
polyphonic MIDI file - basically so I can have the sheet music. Can
anyone name one?
Although this is a Linux list, I don't care what platform the tool runs
on, since I will only use it once and then go away happy with my MIDI
file :)
So far I only found a demo Windows program called intelliScore
Polyphonic Demo. It's limited to the first 15 seconds but unfortunately
it made such a terrible job that I don't feel inclined to purchase the
full version.
The MP3 in question is "Vevey (Revisited)" by Yes, from their 1977 album
"Going for the One". It's a simply constructed piece of music but the
organ chords are really confusing me. I've tried to go through it and
notate it manually, but I seem to be incapable of picking the notes out
of the chords. Rick Wakeman is clearly a genius :)
http://static.jonathangazeley.com/Yes-VeveyRevisited.mp3
So, if anyone can recommend some software that can help me here, I'd be
very grateful. Alternatively, if anyone is willing to write it out for
me (MIDI, PDF, or any other decent format) then I'll make it worth their
while!
Cheers,
Jonathan
http://sonicvisualiser.org/index.html might be able to help you pick out
the notes.
12:24 p.m.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:25:18PM +0100, Jonathan Gazeley wrote:
The chords all sound like rather classical harmony to me.
You don't need a genius for this, it's the sort of thing
any church organist would be able to do instantly.
If I'd try to notate this and would have a problem with
any chord I'd just take a look at it with Japa. But I
don't think it would be necessary. You could also use
Jaaa, freeze the display on some chord and put a marker
on the lowest four or five peaks. The marker info
includes the musical note.
Ciao,
--
FA
There are three of them, and Alleline.
12:43 p.m.
On 10/30/2010 01:24 PM, fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
The chords all sound like rather classical harmony to
me.
You don't need a genius for this, it's the sort of thing
any church organist would be able to do instantly.
Well, I am a church organist, and have been for years.
I can read music and play it, but unfortunately I seem to lack the
ability to listen to music and write it down if it's polyphonic. No
problem if it's monophonic.
Thanks for your tips,
Jonathan
1:06 p.m.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Gazeley
<jonathan.gazeley(a)bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
On 10/30/2010 01:24 PM, fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
i've seen a demo of Clam doing this sort of thing, but again, its
display is visual, not a list.
The chords all sound like rather classical harmony to me.
You don't need a genius for this, it's the sort of thing
any church organist would be able to do instantly.
Well, I am a church organist, and have been for years.
I can read music and play it, but unfortunately I seem to lack the ability
to listen to music and write it down if it's polyphonic. No problem if it's
monophonic. 
1:56 p.m.
Last I checked it couldn't do polyphony as I think you desire but
there is a Linux app called waon you may want to try that converts wav
to MIDI.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Gazeley
<jonathan.gazeley(a)bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
On 10/30/2010 01:24 PM, fons(a)kokkinizita.net
wrote:
i've seen a demo of Clam doing this sort of thing, but again, its
display is visual, not a list.
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The chords all sound like rather classical harmony to me.
You don't need a genius for this, it's the sort of thing
any church organist would be able to do instantly.
Well, I am a church organist, and have been for years.
I can read music and play it, but unfortunately I seem to lack the ability
to listen to music and write it down if it's polyphonic. No problem if it's
monophonic.
8:06 p.m.
On 10/30/2010 02:56 PM, allcoms wrote:
Last I checked it couldn't do polyphony as I think
you desire but
there is a Linux app called waon you may want to try that converts wav
to MIDI.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Paul Davis<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Gazeley
> <jonathan.gazeley(a)bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>> On 10/30/2010 01:24 PM, fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
>>>
>>> The chords all sound like rather classical harmony to me.
>>> You don't need a genius for this, it's the sort of thing
>>> any church organist would be able to do instantly.
>>
>> Well, I am a church organist, and have been for years.
>>
>> I can read music and play it, but unfortunately I seem to lack the ability
>> to listen to music and write it down if it's polyphonic. No problem if
it's
>> monophonic.
>
> i've seen a demo of Clam doing this sort of thing, but again, its
> display is visual, not a list.
I've had a go with waon and it's done a far better job than anything
else I've tried today, so thanks for the heads-up.
I had originally thought the relative simplicity of this music would let
it be easily transcoded by software, but on second thought the pipe
organ has lots of other strong harmonics in each note, and this seems to
confuse pitch detection algorithms somewhat.
Maybe for the best results I will simply have to do it by hand (or get
someone else to) :(
Jonathan
9:01 p.m.
Jonathan Gazeley wrote:
On 10/30/2010 02:56 PM, allcoms wrote:
Best results I ever got (transcribing a complete polyphonic arrangement)
was having a friend with perfect pitch do it. He was graduating from
Juilliard at the time, so he brought a whole lot of musical training and
skill to the task. ;-)
Another thought I had once (when trying some automatic note recognition
software) was to split the original audio into narrower frequency bands
(say an octave's worth per band), and run the resulting tracks through
the note recognition software separately. I didn't try it out, though,
because I didn't have the time.
--
David
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Last I checked it couldn't do polyphony as I
think you desire but
there is a Linux app called waon you may want to try that converts wav
to MIDI.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Paul
Davis<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Gazeley
> <jonathan.gazeley(a)bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>> On 10/30/2010 01:24 PM, fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
>>>
>>> The chords all sound like rather classical harmony to me.
>>> You don't need a genius for this, it's the sort of thing
>>> any church organist would be able to do instantly.
>>
>> Well, I am a church organist, and have been for years.
>>
>> I can read music and play it, but unfortunately I seem to lack the
>> ability
>> to listen to music and write it down if it's polyphonic. No problem
>> if it's
>> monophonic.
>
> i've seen a demo of Clam doing this sort of thing, but again, its
> display is visual, not a list.
I've had a go with waon and it's done a far better job than anything
else I've tried today, so thanks for the heads-up.
I had originally thought the relative simplicity of this music would let
it be easily transcoded by software, but on second thought the pipe
organ has lots of other strong harmonics in each note, and this seems to
confuse pitch detection algorithms somewhat.
Maybe for the best results I will simply have to do it by hand (or get
someone else to) :(
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