4 Mar
2008
4 Mar
'08
1:56 p.m.
I've been using lots of LADSPA plug-ins with many GNU/Linux applications.
(by the way it's been sometime that i gave up using any windows applications
in my home studio)
When it was with windows i tried too many high quality VST plug-ins like
URS, McDSP and etc.
These plug-ins engaged that they simulated some analog systems like SSL,
Neve and others.
I wonder,
1) Is that really true ? Can they really do it ? if they can how far can
they ?
2) They are really expensive software. Is that because they are paying to
the consumers of the analog products for the algorithms of their system's
simulation ?
3) What about the LADSPA plug-ins like CAPS, TAPS ? They really work great i
guess. At least they satisfy my needs. Especially with TAPS reverb i liked
it very much.
Thanks.
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Arda EDEN
Cumhuriyet University
Faculty of Fine Arts
Department of Music Technology
4 Mar
4 Mar
2:20 p.m.
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:56:03 +0200
"Arda Eden" <ardaeden(a)gmail.com> wrote:
When it was with windows i tried too many high
quality VST plug-ins like
URS, McDSP and etc.
These plug-ins engaged that they simulated some analog systems like SSL,
Neve and others.
I wonder,
1) Is that really true ? Can they really do it ? if they can how far can
they ?
I'm skeptical that a plugin, no matter how good, can really model a piece
of vintage gear. As an example, Universal Audio has a plugin that models
their famous LA3A compressor. This is a piece of gear that has an almost
mythic standing in the world of analog audio processing, and not without
reason. I've seen them in use, and it really was a nice compressor. But
can you get that buttery compression goodness replicated in a digital mode?
I tend to think not. I believe there's a lot of subtle stuff happening in
the analog compressor that just isn't going to make it into a digital model.
That said, UA's plugin might be very, very good, but is it $149 good? It
isn't likely to be for me.
2) They are really expensive software. Is that because
they are paying to
the consumers of the analog products for the algorithms of their system's
simulation ?
More likely they're paying to license the use of the original product's
name and add an aura of authenticity. If you've ever looked at a Line 6
modeling guitar amp, they'll have names like "Brit" to refer to a model of
a Vox amp. I imagine some lawyer would get rather testy if they came right
out and labelled the model as "Vox".
3) What about the LADSPA plug-ins like CAPS, TAPS ?
They really work great i
guess. At least they satisfy my needs. Especially with TAPS reverb i liked
it very much.
I've been really happy with the assortment of LADSPA plugins available.
The SCn compressors are very nice, and I can't see myself getting $149
worth of value out of an official L3A3 compressor plugin.
That's my take, anyway.
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Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
2:37 p.m.
Happy to hear sameway i think.
By the way,
I've never heard about this SCn. I'm compiling it right now.
thanks
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:56:03 +0200
"Arda Eden" <ardaeden(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Arda EDEN
Cumhuriyet University
Faculty of Fine Arts
Department of Music Technology
When it was with windows i tried too many high
quality VST plug-ins
like
URS, McDSP and etc.
These plug-ins engaged that they simulated some analog systems like SSL,
Neve and others.
I wonder,
1) Is that really true ? Can they really do it ? if they can how far can
they ?
I'm skeptical that a plugin, no matter how good, can really model a piece
of vintage gear. As an example, Universal Audio has a plugin that models
their famous LA3A compressor. This is a piece of gear that has an almost
mythic standing in the world of analog audio processing, and not without
reason. I've seen them in use, and it really was a nice compressor. But
can you get that buttery compression goodness replicated in a digital
mode?
I tend to think not. I believe there's a lot of subtle stuff happening in
the analog compressor that just isn't going to make it into a digital
model.
That said, UA's plugin might be very, very good, but is it $149 good? It
isn't likely to be for me.
2) They are really expensive software. Is that
because they are paying
to
the consumers of the analog products for the
algorithms of their
system's
simulation ?
More likely they're paying to license the use of the original product's
name and add an aura of authenticity. If you've ever looked at a Line 6
modeling guitar amp, they'll have names like "Brit" to refer to a model of
a Vox amp. I imagine some lawyer would get rather testy if they came
right
out and labelled the model as "Vox".
3) What about the LADSPA plug-ins like CAPS, TAPS
? They really work
great i
guess. At least they satisfy my needs. Especially
with TAPS reverb i
liked
it very much.
I've been really happy with the assortment of LADSPA plugins available.
The SCn compressors are very nice, and I can't see myself getting $149
worth of value out of an official L3A3 compressor plugin.
That's my take, anyway.
--
======================================================================
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2:40 p.m.
Wow,
Really great. I tried it with ardour on a drum sample.
Thanks Joe.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Arda Eden <ardaeden(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Happy to hear sameway i think.
By the way,
I've never heard about this SCn. I'm compiling it right now.
thanks
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
--
Arda EDEN
Cumhuriyet University
Faculty of Fine Arts
Department of Music Technology
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:56:03 +0200
"Arda Eden" <ardaeden(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Arda EDEN
Cumhuriyet University
Faculty of Fine Arts
Department of Music Technology
When it was with windows i tried too many high
quality VST plug-ins
like
URS, McDSP and etc.
These plug-ins engaged that they simulated some analog systems like
SSL,
Neve and others.
I wonder,
1) Is that really true ? Can they really do it ? if they can how far
can
they ?
I'm skeptical that a plugin, no matter how good, can really model a
piece
of vintage gear. As an example, Universal Audio has a plugin that
models
their famous LA3A compressor. This is a piece of gear that has an
almost
mythic standing in the world of analog audio processing, and not without
reason. I've seen them in use, and it really was a nice compressor.
But
can you get that buttery compression goodness replicated in a digital
mode?
I tend to think not. I believe there's a lot of subtle stuff happening
in
the analog compressor that just isn't going to make it into a digital
model.
That said, UA's plugin might be very, very good, but is it $149 good?
It
isn't likely to be for me.
2) They are really expensive software. Is that
because they are paying
to
the consumers of the analog products for the
algorithms of their
system's
simulation ?
More likely they're paying to license the use of the original product's
name and add an aura of authenticity. If you've ever looked at a Line 6
modeling guitar amp, they'll have names like "Brit" to refer to a model
of
a Vox amp. I imagine some lawyer would get rather testy if they came
right
out and labelled the model as "Vox".
3) What about the LADSPA plug-ins like CAPS, TAPS
? They really work
great i
guess. At least they satisfy my needs. Especially
with TAPS reverb i
liked
it very much.
I've been really happy with the assortment of LADSPA plugins available.
The SCn compressors are very nice, and I can't see myself getting $149
worth of value out of an official L3A3 compressor plugin.
That's my take, anyway.
--
======================================================================
Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
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2:53 p.m.
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:40:40 +0200
"Arda Eden" <ardaeden(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Wow,
Really great. I tried it with ardour on a drum sample.
Thanks Joe.
The thanks should go to Steve Harris for a very nice set of plugins!
--
======================================================================
Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
3:05 p.m.
Yes,
Steve Harris is a great man. I love him.
I first thought that he was the bass player of Iron Maiden. :-)
Thanks to Mr. Harris.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:40:40 +0200
"Arda Eden" <ardaeden(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Arda EDEN
Cumhuriyet University
Faculty of Fine Arts
Department of Music Technology
Wow,
Really great. I tried it with ardour on a drum sample.
Thanks Joe.
The thanks should go to Steve Harris for a very nice set of plugins!
--
======================================================================
Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
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14 Mar
14 Mar
9:01 a.m.
Arda Eden wrote:
Yes,
Steve Harris is a great man. I love him.
I first thought that he was the bass player of Iron Maiden. :-)
Run to the hills! Run for your life! :-D
Steve is a such a Rock'n'Roll animal. ;-P
cheers,
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