Well I thought I'd give fedora 13 (the kde 'spin') a go the other day. I've tried a few distros which used KDE, and found it quite visually appealing, more so than gnome for sure. But I'm left with the feeling I'm using Windows with it (which is better than the feeling i'm left with after using gnome ;-). Instead all I did with Fedora was install gparted and resize the gentoo partitions except I forgot to copy one of them before deleting it. Anyway, the point I'm eventually trying to get to... i decided against fedora13+kde and did a fresh gentoo install over it instead. gentoo's using kernel 2.6.34 and it seems to have the full real-time-preemption low latency desktop option.. built in, so all i've had to do was /etc/security/limits.conf wotsits - though I'm not sure if that is the real real time patch or what. james. On Wed, May 26, 2010 19:32, Niels Mayer wrote: there's a special "spin" for the KDE desktop and tools: they need is an F13 CCRMA spin with realtime kernel and all the cool progs from that repo). KDE 4.4 vs. Gnome from an Ubuntu perspective. Looks like Fedora13's KDE spin will satisfy the need for a desktop that competes with the latest Windows and Mac offerings.