26 Feb
2010
26 Feb
'10
7:37 a.m.
Is anyone here using the sound card in the title? How it's working and
are there any problems with it?
I saw it is marked as fully supported on ffado site, but wanted to
hear first hand experiences.
Are all input and output ports available through Jack or there are
some limitations?
Regards!
Igor
26 Feb
26 Feb
8:30 a.m.
No limits, it works. But its just a bad device, sounds bad.
Buy something better, it will last for many years.
Nils
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:37:01 +0100
Igor Brkic <igor(a)hyperglitch.com> wrote:
Is anyone here using the sound card in the title? How
it's working and
are there any problems with it?
I saw it is marked as fully supported on ffado site, but wanted to
hear first hand experiences.
Are all input and output ports available through Jack or there are
some limitations?
Regards!
Igor
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8:49 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Nils Hammerfest <list(a)nilsgey.de> wrote:
No limits, it works. But its just a bad device, sounds
bad.
Buy something better, it will last for many years.
Nils
Can you explain a bit more? Do you maybe have suggestion in that price range?
Other devices I considered are Echo AudioFire2 (FW), E-MU Tracker pre
USB2 and Lexicon Omega (USB). I also looked at Lexicon I-ONIX. It's a
bit out of that price range but it looks very nice (I know this
shouldn't be very important but I like devices that also look good
:)).
Igor
9:48 a.m.
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:49:35 +0100
Igor Brkic <igor(a)hyperglitch.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Nils Hammerfest
<list(a)nilsgey.de> wrote:
Thats exactly it. Think if you really can't afford a better device. Its just not worth
to invest your money in bad hardware, no matter how low the price is. The phasex24 is
around 100€ now, but you have to invest at least 300 or better 400 to get something decent
and if you want to have something for real:
I've gone all through this. I talk from experience. If I just simply had the vision, 6
years ago "I'll buy something from RME for 800€ to 900€ even if it sounds like
much money" it would be even cheaper than buying midclass hardware and upgrade just
to the next level if its not enough.
Sound is not a graphic card. Buy one now, it will last for many years. I know people who
have bought an RME card 15 years ago and it still works like on the first day.
Nils
No limits, it works. But its just a bad device,
sounds bad.
Buy something better, it will last for many years.
Nils
Can you explain a bit more? Do you maybe have suggestion in that price range? 
10:20 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 02:49:09PM +0100, Nils Hammerfest wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:49:35 +0100
Igor Brkic <igor(a)hyperglitch.com> wrote:
They don't even provide any real specs. Terratec seems to
have decayed quite a bit. I have an EWS-MT-88 from them
(7 years old now) which is really excellent, but they
don't make that kind of cards any more - just the cheap
mass-market consumer type stuff.
Ciao,
--
FA
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Nils Hammerfest
<list(a)nilsgey.de> wrote:
Thats exactly it. Think if you really can't afford a better device. Its just not
worth to invest your money in bad hardware, no matter how low the price is. The phasex24
is around 100€ now, but you have to invest at least 300 or better 400 to get something
decent and if you want to have something for real: No limits, it works. But its just a bad device,
sounds bad.
Buy something better, it will last for many years.
Nils
Can you explain a bit more? Do you maybe have suggestion in that price range? 
28 Feb
28 Feb
7:38 a.m.
On 02/26/2010 02:49 PM, Nils Hammerfest wrote:
Sound is not a graphic card. Buy one now, it will last
for many
years. I know people who have bought an RME card 15 years ago and it
still works like on the first day.
for the record, i'm using an RME digi 9652 i got from ebay for really
cheap (under 200€ iirc). no analogue i/o, but three adats. throw in an
ADAT converter of your choice (starting with the behringer ada8000 for
220€), and you have 8 channels in/out, easily expandable to 24.
the digi is now 10 or so years old since it first came out. the only
problem in the mid-term is that it's still a PCI card, so i have to
watch for PCI slots when upgrading my mainboard. other than that, i'm
sure the card will be sufficient for my requirements until it finally
sheds its mortal capacitors.
26 Feb
26 Feb
10:08 a.m.
On Friday 26 February 2010 13:49:35 Igor Brkic wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Nils Hammerfest
<list(a)nilsgey.de> wrote:
I don't know about your financial setting. But the saffire pro24 is around 300€
on thomann. And it works completely with ffado trunk (what will eventually
become 2.1 some day).
Or look at the "simple" focusrite saffire, which is around 250€ and works with
ffado2.0...
Basically you shouldn't buy cheap when it comes to audio-equipment. Its not
worth it. The average pro sound device lasts longer then the computer its
connected to, why would you buy quality memory but save on the sound device?
Arnold
No limits, it works. But its just a bad device,
sounds bad.
Buy something better, it will last for many years.
Can you explain a bit more? Do
you maybe have suggestion in that price
range?
Other devices I considered are Echo AudioFire2 (FW), E-MU Tracker pre
USB2 and Lexicon Omega (USB).
12:13 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Arnold Krille <arnold(a)arnoldarts.de> wrote:
Basically you shouldn't buy cheap when it comes to audio-equipment. Its not
worth it. The average pro sound device lasts longer then the computer its
connected to, why would you buy quality memory but save on the sound device?
I'm aware of that, but thing is that I don't really need a pro sound
device (at least I think so :)). I rarely do recordings and need
something that will be OK for onstage laptop output, MIDI I/O and
general music listening.
Igor
2:31 p.m.
On Friday 26 February 2010 17:13:34 Igor Brkic wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Arnold Krille
<arnold(a)arnoldarts.de> wrote:
"On-stage" is a fairly demanding use-case. You want to blast away the audience
with good music, not with hiss and crackles and noise.
*jedi mind trick* you definitely want a device that has balanced outputs.
Arnold
Basically you shouldn't buy cheap when it
comes to audio-equipment. Its
not worth it. The average pro sound device lasts longer then the computer
its connected to, why would you buy quality memory but save on the sound
device?
I'm aware of that, but thing is that I don't really need a pro sound
device (at least I think so :)). I rarely do recordings and need
something that will be OK for onstage laptop output, MIDI I/O and
general music listening.
28 Feb
28 Feb
7:41 a.m.
On 02/26/2010 07:31 PM, Arnold Krille wrote:
On Friday 26 February 2010 17:13:34 Igor Brkic wrote:
*jedi mind trick* you definitely want a device that
has balanced outputs.
rely on mind tricks you should not, arnold, when suffice will the wisdom
of young igor alone. see for his own he will.
9:48 a.m.
2010/2/28 Jörn Nettingsmeier <nettings(a)folkwang-hochschule.de>de>:
On 02/26/2010 07:31 PM, Arnold Krille wrote:
Clearly I now see it. For advices I thank to all you. Decision is made
not, yet, but outputs balanced will be.
On Friday 26 February 2010 17:13:34 Igor Brkic
wrote:
*jedi mind trick* you definitely want a device
that has balanced outputs.
rely on mind tricks you should not, arnold, when suffice will the wisdom
of young igor alone. see for his own he will.
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