Joe Hartley wrote: Thanks for the reply Joe. Following your suggestion I looked at the Planet CCRMA instructions for installing on top of Fedora Core 8, was able to locate where the Fedora Core 9 and Fedora Core 10 CCRMA repositories were located, and enabled the CCRMA repository for Fedora Core 9. The RealTime kernel I got was: Linux serenity.valley 2.6.24.7-1.rt3.2.fc9.ccrmart #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue May 13 04:33:19 EDT 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I'm running it right now after a reboot. As soon as I did RealPlayer 11 is back to using the motherboard speaker, arrg! Oh well. Any reason you plan to install Fedora Core 9 instead of Fedora Core 10? Let me know how your installation goes and how you succeed in disabling PulseAudio. At this point, I'm ready to leave Planet CCRMA for any Linux distribution that doesn't use PulseAudio. Regards, Stephen.

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:54:51 -0600 The Other <theother1510(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: Glad you found it! I can't say I've used RealPlayer in years, not sure why it'd be different. On my studio system, I've disabled onboard sound completely, but I do have 2 Delta 1010s and have never had an issue with my sound going somewhere unexpected. I'm guessing that you still have PulseAudio installed, which to me seems to be geared for people who are willing to give up control of audio routing to a program that believes it knows how to route audio better than the user. Seems unnecessary for people working at a more complex level. I don't want the blood on the bleeding edge to be mine :) Fernando's only recently started to work on 10, so I'll stick with the more well- tested 9 for now. Seems drastic to me! People on the Planet CCRMA mailing list seem to have had little trouble in cutting PulseAudio from the system. -- ====================================================================== Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh(a)brainiac.com Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa

Nigel Henry wrote: Thanks Nigel. I've printed your reply, applied it, and rebooted into the Planet CCRMA realtime kernel. When logging in as a normal user under Gnome, the default login wave played through the motherboard speaker. Nothing new there so I went into Pulse Audio Device Chooser, selected the "default" for the Default Server, "default" for the Default Sink, and "default" for the Default Source. Then I went into PulseAudio Manager, select the Sample Cache tab, then highlight the pulse-hotplug entry, and set Playback On: to anything other than the 8086 line. I check it with the Play button and hear the default sound come through my monitor speakers via my Audigy2 ZS PCI soundcard. Then its off into PulseAudio Volume Control, select the Output Devices, then turn off the volume on the Intel 82801 chip, turn up the volume and set as default the ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback chip. Then do the same thing under the Input Devices tab. Close out and I'm done. The next time I log in I have to repeat the entire process. But the good news is that RealPlayer 11 is now using the monitor speakers, Ardour 2 is recording off the Audigy2 ZS, Audacity is recording off RealPlayer 11 (although I can't seem to get Audacity to record off the CD/DVD drive) The Alsa Mixer for my Audigy2 ZS is now showing all of the controls, although I just hung it up trying to figure out the correct combination to get Audacity to record the DVD soundtrack. I think I have the digital out and the Analog out on the DVD drive going to the Audigy2 ZS. Perhaps I should select one or the other, but not both. Something else to experiment with. Joe: I feel so silly. I watch the Fedora Forums, but I never thought to join the Planet CCRMA mailing list. That's my next stop. And Joe, don't do a total uninstall of everything PulseAudio. I tried that and had to do a complete reinstall of Fedora 10 and of Fedora 9, as Nigel said someone else did. Removing PulseAudio in total borks Fedora. Grammostola: Thanks for the LinuxMusicians thread on PulseAudio. I'll check it out tomorrow. I greatly appreciate all the help and suggestions. Now that RealAudio 11 is playing through the monitor speakers, I can listen to the Sky.FM New Age channel and get mellow again. :) Best, Stephen.

On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 20:21 -0500, Joe Hartley wrote: Ardour 2.7.1 is in Planet CCRMA's testing repository for fc9 (another build coming up soon with lv2 support). -- Fernando

Joe Hartley wrote: Congratulations, Joe. To All, I starting having some kernel faults with 2.6.24.7-1.rt3.2.fc9.ccrmart, so I rebooted back to 2.6.27.7-53.fc9.i686. Running without realtime was working for me, so why not? But as soon as I rebooted back into 2.6.27.7-53.fc9.i686, all sound output was defaulted back to the motherboard speaker again. This was without having alsa-plugins-pulseaudio RPM installed. Okay. I've noticed that sometimes when things like this happen it helps to reinstall the RPM and then uninstall the RPM. I tried that but it didn't help. Then I looked into the /etc/pulse/default.pa file, and went into the ### Load Audio Drivers section and put in this: load-module module-alsa-sink load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:1,0 and commented out everything in the ### Automatically Load Drivers section so hal-detect wouldn't be used. That helped some. But now I think I understand what is causing my trouble. The motherboard sound chip is getting recognized as hw:0 (default), and the Audigy2 ZS is getting recognized as hw:1. I think RealPlayer 11 is using hw:0 as the output, hence it's getting kicked out on the motherboard speaker. In prior versions of ALSA, I remember a program called alsaconfig (or something close to that) that let you specify the order of your sound chips/cards. I would always set the Audigy2 to become hw:0. I need something like this for PulseAudio. Then some of these older sound programs which always use hw:0 would be using the Audigy2 instead of the motherboard. Any ideas? Thanks All, Stephen.

On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 15:20 -0600, The Other wrote: One more caveat... the load of kernel modules is done now in parallel (if I understand things correctly so that the boot process is faster). That can have the unfortunate side effect that the order of the soundcards is not necessarily always the same... check the Planet CCRMA pages, there are instructions there on how to solve that. -- Fernando

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: I found your post of September 17, 2008 entitled [Fedora-music-list] sound card order in fc9. These are the instructions you are referring to? I'll check them out tonight. This may explain why my device=hw:[Audigy2] lines didn't work after a reboot. I changed it to device=hw:1,0 and that seemed to work. cat /proc/asound/cards currently shows: 0 [Audigy2] 1 [I82801BAICH2] But this may be a lucky selection of cards when I rebooted, as you're stating. Oh well, I thought I had this fixed. As I said, later tonight I'll go through your references. Thanks Fernando, Stephen.

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: oops, I always did make things harder for myself than necessary. Thanks the link, Fernando, Stephen.