On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 19:30:15 +0200 Thorsten Wilms <t_w_(a)freenet.de> wrote: Well... Thanks :) It is a sound I've been trying to achieve for quite some time. I can *really* recommend anyone who uses Zyn to go right into it and tweak everything in sight to see what it does. This sound is surprisingly 'economical' and uses just two oscillator modules in AddSyth. Both are 'power' waveforms and one panned slightly left while the other is slightly right. There is also a small frequency shift. This gives the initial 'bite' and spread. However, what really makes the sound interesting is that on just one of the oscillators I switch on 'harmonic amplitude randomness' and then apply a little local LP filtering. These controls are *very* easy to overlook but have a dramatic effect. Finally I have a small amount of short reverb (hall) followed by phaser. Because of the way the phaser works I actually had to record this quite a few times then select the one that sounded the best. I see^H^H^H hear what you mean. He's done some very interesting stuff. -- Will J G