3 Mar
2006
3 Mar
'06
3:26 p.m.
After googling and reading for several hours last nite, I was still unable to find a
solution to this, so I decided to give up and just ask. I am trying to get Ardour, Jack
and my Delta 1010 working on Ubuntu Dapper Flight 4, but I wonder if I am missing
something from alsa. There is also an onboard C-Media sound chip. I can get sound from the
C-Media chip, but the only time I hear a sound from the Delta card is when the Ubuntu
login screen appears, and only after a reboot. XMMS will play thru the C-Media, but when I
try to change to the Delta card, I get the "couldn't open audio" error
message. The snd_ice1712 module is loaded. I tried disabling the C-Media chip in the BIOS,
but Ubuntu still recognizes and uses it. Here is what happens when I try to run alsamixer
or alsa.conf as root:
# alsamixer
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1107:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition
'defaults.ctl.card'
ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No
such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:242:(snd_func_getenv) error evaluating default
ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_getenv returned error: No
such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3962:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default
alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
# /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
bash: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf: Permission denied
I have tried changing permissions, finally setting /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer and /dev/snd/* to
777. I have alsa-base, alsa-utils and alsa-tools installed. I may not have something alsa
needs, but additionally getting a "permission denied" from alsa.conf as root
seems to indicate that the file is being used, although I don't know by what. I would
really appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction with this. Thanks.
Ruben
3 Mar
3 Mar
10:55 p.m.
On 3 March 2006 at 11:27, Ruben Lopez <rl1205(a)sillylovesongs.com> wrote:
After googling and reading for several hours last
nite, I was
still unable to find a solution to this, so I decided to give
up and just ask. I am trying to get Ardour, Jack and my Delta
1010 working on Ubuntu Dapper Flight 4, but I wonder if I am
missing something from alsa. There is also an onboard C-Media
sound chip. I can get sound from the C-Media chip, but the only
time I hear a sound from the Delta card is when the Ubuntu login
screen appears, and only after a reboot. XMMS will play thru
the C-Media,
What does your /proc/asound/cards contain?
but when I try to change to the Delta card, I get
the "couldn't open audio" error message. The snd_ice1712 module
is loaded. I tried disabling the C-Media chip in the BIOS, but
Ubuntu still recognizes and uses it.
What are you doing to "try to change to the Delta card"?
Here is what happens when I
try to run alsamixer or alsa.conf as root:
Mine contains:
0 [AudioPCI ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xdc00, irq 18
1 [M1010 ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010
M Audio Delta 1010 at 0xd480, irq 19
As you can see, I have two soundcards, having disabled the on-board
"card", which would have been a 3rd "card".
# alsamixer
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1107:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition
'defaults.ctl.card'
ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No
such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:242:(snd_func_getenv) error evaluating default
ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_getenv returned error: No
such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3962:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default
alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
# /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
bash: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf: Permission denied
alsa.conf contains configuration data (hence the .conf) and isn't
ever intended to be run. Rather, it is read by ALSA.
What does your alsa.conf contain? I'll send you my 619 line file
off-list. I hope that's OK with you and the list. The above
line saying, "Unable to find definition 'defaults.ctl.card'"
makes me suspect that the cards were never configured for
some reason. Strangely, I never had to do that step. My
Delta-1010 was simply discovered and configured by my Mandrake
10.1 system. My alsa.conf file contains one line reading like
this: "defaults.ctl.card 0".
Keep at it. You'll be glad you did. Ardour with a Delta 1010 is
wonderful.
G'luck.....
--
Kevin
9 Mar
9 Mar
3:53 a.m.
Sorry for the delayed response:
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:49:27 -0800, Kevin Cosgrove was like:
xmms -> Options -> Preferences -> Audio I/O Plugins/Output Plugin/Configure
I got yours - thanks. Mine looked the same, but I could not resolve the issues I had on
Ubuntu, so I switched to a bare-bones Debian install, only adding packages I needed from
etch. Along the way I discovered part of the solution - I modified
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, adding "options snd-cmipci index=2" to the end of the
file. This prevents the C-Media card from being the default sound card. That, and running
"modprobe snd-seq" pretty much solved my problems, and I am even getting lower
latency numbers than with Demudi. Thanks for your help.
On 3 March 2006 at 11:27, Ruben Lopez <rl1205(a)sillylovesongs.com>
wrote:
It shows both of my Delta 1010s and the on-board C-Media card. One of the Delta cards and
the C-Media card are sharing IRQ 5, and the C-Media card is the default sound card. I
don't understand this, because I have disabled the C-Media card in the BIOS.
After googling and reading for several hours last
nite, I was
still unable to find a solution to this, so I decided to give up
and just ask. I am trying to get Ardour, Jack and my Delta 1010
working on Ubuntu Dapper Flight 4, but I wonder if I am missing
something from alsa. There is also an onboard C-Media sound chip.
I can get sound from the C-Media chip, but the only time I hear a
sound from the Delta card is when the Ubuntu login screen
appears, and only after a reboot. XMMS will play thru the C-Media,
What does your /proc/asound/cards contain? but when I try
to change to the Delta card, I get the "couldn't
open audio" error message. The snd_ice1712 module is loaded. I
tried disabling the C-Media chip in the BIOS, but Ubuntu still
recognizes and uses it.
What are you doing to "try to change to the Delta card"? Here is what
happens when I
try to run alsamixer or alsa.conf as root:
What does your alsa.conf contain? I'll send you my 619 line file
off-list. I hope that's OK with you and the list. The above line
saying, "Unable to find definition 'defaults.ctl.card'" makes me
suspect that the cards were never configured for some reason.
Strangely, I never had to do that step. My Delta-1010 was simply
discovered and configured by my Mandrake 10.1 system. My alsa.conf
file contains one line reading like this: "defaults.ctl.card 0". Keep at it. You'll be glad you did. Ardour with
a Delta 1010 is
wonderful.
I know - I have been using two on my Windows mobile DAW for almost 2 years - I'm just
trying to transition them over to Linux.
Ruben
---------------------------
Debian Etch 2.6.15-1
Ardour 0.99-3+b1
AMD Athlon XP 2000
Delta 1010
12:46 p.m.
On 8 March 2006 at 23:53, Ruben Lopez <rl1205(a)sillylovesongs.com> wrote:
Sorry for the delayed response:
No problem.
I know - I have been using two [Delta 1010s] on my
Windows
mobile DAW for almost 2 years - I'm just trying to transition
them over to Linux.
*When* you get both 1010s working on your Linux box, would you please
publish a recipe for doing so that a novice could follow? I would
buy a 2nd 1010 were it not for the fact that I can't find such a
recipe, and I don't want to spend that kind of money unless I know it
will work with reasonable effort.
Debian Etch 2.6.15-1
Ardour 0.99-3+b1
AMD Athlon XP 2000
Delta 1010
Pretty much like my system, except Athlon 64-X2 4400 and Mandriva
2006.0 on one and Celeron with Mandrake 10.1 on the other. The Delta
1010 is on the Celeron box for the moment and will move to the Athlon
box when I can get that box fully config'd and proven.
Cheers....
--
Kevin
12:58 p.m.
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:45:45 -0800, Kevin Cosgrove was like:
*When* you get both 1010s working on your Linux box, would you
please publish a recipe for doing so that a novice could follow? I
would buy a 2nd 1010 were it not for the fact that I can't find
such a recipe, and I don't want to spend that kind of money unless
I know it will work with reasonable effort.
I haven't tried this yet, but it looks interesting:
http://www.sound-man.co.uk/linuxaudio/ice1712multi.html
Ruben
---------------------------
Debian Etch 2.6.15-1
Ardour 0.99-3+b1
AMD Athlon XP 2000
Delta 1010
1:23 p.m.
Ruben Lopez wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:45:45 -0800, Kevin Cosgrove was
like:
It works, at least for me and Doug McLain (he was the one who helped me
get it working, and wrote many patches for alsa). We both use 1010LT cards.
Currently if you use 1010LT, you need to use ALSA-CVS also. Use no
patches against ALSA CVS, but patches from that page for everything else.
You need to connect the S/PDIF out of the master card to the S/PDIF in
of the slave card. Use the most recent envy24control in CVS to make
things work correctly.
*When* you get both 1010s working on your Linux
box, would you
please publish a recipe for doing so that a novice could follow? I
would buy a 2nd 1010 were it not for the fact that I can't find
such a recipe, and I don't want to spend that kind of money unless
I know it will work with reasonable effort.
I haven't tried this yet, but it looks interesting:
http://www.sound-man.co.uk/linuxaudio/ice1712multi.html
2:01 p.m.
On 9 March 2006 at 18:23, =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyIFN1bmRsw7Zm?=
<petter.sundlof(a)findus.dhs.org> wrote:
It works, at least for me and Doug McLain (he was the one who helped me
get it working, and wrote many patches for alsa). We both use 1010LT cards.
I wonder if that works with non-LT "cards" or with a combination of
LT and non-LT cards. I suppose it probably does. A friend of mine
has an LT card. Maybe I can borrow that after upgrading to what you
mention below.
Currently if you use 1010LT, you need to use ALSA-CVS
also. Use no
patches against ALSA CVS, but patches from that page for everything else.
You need to connect the S/PDIF out of the master card to the S/PDIF in
of the slave card. Use the most recent envy24control in CVS to make
things work correctly.
Would you know if the version upgrades recommended for the 1010LT are
also recommended for 1010?
Thanks...
--
Kevin
1:37 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 23:53 -0800, Ruben Lopez wrote:
xmms -> Options -> Preferences -> Audio I/O Plugins/Output
Plugin/Configure
XMMS bug. The select list only contains "default" and "hw" devices
which can't work because the ICE1712 only support S32_LE samples which
are rarely used in .wav files.
"default:x" or "plughw:x" should work where x is the number of the
ICE1712 card. I guess you'll have to edit the XMMS config file. Please
report this incorrect enumeration of ALSA devices as a bug to the XMMS
maintainers.
Lee
but when I try to change to the Delta card, I get the
"couldn't
open audio" error message. The snd_ice1712 module is loaded. I
tried disabling the C-Media chip in the BIOS, but Ubuntu still
recognizes and uses it.
What are you doing to "try to change to the Delta card"?
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