1 Oct
2006
1 Oct
'06
4:13 p.m.
hi to the list,
i have a strange issue here with xmms, which wants not to play via
rme-multiface.
i am using 2.6.18-rt5 kernel, compiled with 1000Hz option, when i load
my usb device, or the onboard sound, xmms plays very well, but only on
the multiface i have the issue, that xmms responses only the first
"click" and than it freezes.
the same issue i have using the 2.6.16-rt13 kernel, but as it is working
on these kernels using the usb/onboard sound, i dont think that this is
related to the kernel, but perhaps to the firmware?
dont know.
does anybody else have this problem using rme-cards?
cheers,
doc
1 Oct
1 Oct
6:04 p.m.
On Sun Oct 01, 2006 at 08:15:27PM +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
hi to the list,
i have a strange issue here with xmms, which wants not to play via rme-multiface.
i am using 2.6.18-rt5 kernel, compiled with 1000Hz option, when i load my usb device, or
the onboard sound, xmms plays very well, but only on the multiface i have the
issue, that xmms responses only the first "click" and than it freezes.
the same issue i have using the 2.6.16-rt13 kernel, but as it is working on these kernels
using the usb/onboard sound, i dont think that this is related to the kernel,
but perhaps to the firmware?
have you tried audacious? XMMS is abandoned
dont know.
does anybody else have this problem using rme-cards?
cheers,
doc
10:32 p.m.
carmen wrote:
have you tried audacious? XMMS is abandoned
I agree that there are other possibly better players around, but
what makes you think XMMS is abandoned?
Erik
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10:50 p.m.
On Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 10:32:19AM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
carmen wrote:
the existence of XMMS2, BMPX, and Audacious, plus chat in the audacious channel relating
to how dead XMMS was. i guess i havent fully investigated it. even within XMMS, one could
proably fix the issue by switching to the jack output, and having jack deal with the card,
if one was using ALSA..
have you tried audacious? XMMS is abandoned
I agree that there are other possibly better players around, but
what makes you think XMMS is abandoned?
Erik
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2 Oct
2 Oct
9:59 a.m.
have you tried audacious? XMMS is abandoned
are you able to use audacius with jack?
>
> dont know.
>
> does anybody else have this problem using rme-cards?
>
> cheers,
> doc
>
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11:42 a.m.
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 13:59 +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
no idea, but i use the xmms-jack plugin all day every day to listen to
internet radio, via an RME HDSP + digiface. there are a few problems
(xmms periodically hits a point where it starts eating memory like mad,
or starts burning CPU cycles like mad, maybe once every 36 hours or so),
but its basically all good.
have you tried audacious? XMMS is abandoned
are you able to use audacius with jack? 
3:21 p.m.
Am Sonntag, den 01.10.2006, 20:15 +0200 schrieb Dragan Noveski:
hi to the list,
i have a strange issue here with xmms, which wants not to play via
rme-multiface.
i am using 2.6.18-rt5 kernel, compiled with 1000Hz option, when i load
my usb device, or the onboard sound, xmms plays very well, but only on
the multiface i have the issue, that xmms responses only the first
"click" and than it freezes.
the same issue i have using the 2.6.16-rt13 kernel, but as it is working
on these kernels using the usb/onboard sound, i dont think that this is
related to the kernel, but perhaps to the firmware?
dont know.
does anybody else have this problem using rme-cards?
cheers,
doc
Hi,
my Multiface is running fine with xmms under 2.6.26-rt29. The only thing
is, that xmms only accepts the grouped outputs set in my ~/.asoundrc
For example my multiface is hw:2, but xmms can't acces hw:2,0. So I have
to set:
pcm.hdsp {
type hw
card 2
}
ctl.hdsp {
type hw
card 2
}
pcm.hdsp_analog {
type plug
ttable.0.0 1
ttable.1.1 1
ttable.2.2 1
ttable.3.3 1
ttable.4.4 1
ttable.5.5 1
ttable.6.6 1
ttable.7.7 1
slave.pcm hdsp
}
in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
Mor infos to goup your channels can be found here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7024
regards
Martin
3 Oct
3 Oct
1:39 p.m.
Martin Wohlleben wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 01.10.2006, 20:15 +0200 schrieb Dragan
Noveski:
hi,
thanx very much for this response,
unfortunately it does not helps in my case!
i never used a .asoundrc, so copied and pasted that one from the link
above, now after the boot, i dont have to run alsaconf anymore, rme
shows up as hw:0,0, which is actually good.
but xmms still has that problem, after setting up the .asoundrc, xmms
begins to play for 2 seconds a very dirty distorted sound but than it
crashes again.
i am trying to use "hdsp_analog" as the output in xmms, but i have the
feeling that xmms does not remember this entry, everytime i open up the
"configure" dialog in the xmms, it is setted to default again?
any other hints?
cheers,
doc
hi to the list,
i have a strange issue here with xmms, which wants not to play via
rme-multiface.
i am using 2.6.18-rt5 kernel, compiled with 1000Hz option, when i load
my usb device, or the onboard sound, xmms plays very well, but only on
the multiface i have the issue, that xmms responses only the first
"click" and than it freezes.
the same issue i have using the 2.6.16-rt13 kernel, but as it is working
on these kernels using the usb/onboard sound, i dont think that this is
related to the kernel, but perhaps to the firmware?
dont know.
does anybody else have this problem using rme-cards?
cheers,
doc
Hi,
my Multiface is running fine with xmms under 2.6.26-rt29. The only thing
is, that xmms only accepts the grouped outputs set in my ~/.asoundrc
For example my multiface is hw:2, but xmms can't acces hw:2,0. So I have
to set:
pcm.hdsp {
type hw
card 2
}
ctl.hdsp {
type hw
card 2
}
pcm.hdsp_analog {
type plug
ttable.0.0 1
ttable.1.1 1
ttable.2.2 1
ttable.3.3 1
ttable.4.4 1
ttable.5.5 1
ttable.6.6 1
ttable.7.7 1
slave.pcm hdsp
}
in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
Mor infos to goup your channels can be found here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7024
regards
Martin
4:06 p.m.
Am Dienstag, den 03.10.2006, 17:41 +0200 schrieb Dragan Noveski:
Martin Wohlleben wrote:
hi,
I think that's because hdsp_analog isn't initialized. If your hdsp is
hw:0 then you have to set pcm.hdsp to card 0.
Your asoundrc should look like this then (added groups for adat and
spdif like in the article above):
pcm.hdsp {
type hw
card 0
}
ctl.hdsp {
type hw
card 0
}
pcm.hdsp_analog {
type plug
ttable.0.0 1
ttable.1.1 1
ttable.2.2 1
ttable.3.3 1
ttable.4.4 1
ttable.5.5 1
ttable.6.6 1
ttable.7.7 1
slave.pcm hdsp
}
pcm.hdsp_adat {
type plug
ttable.0.8 1
ttable.1.9 1
ttable.2.10 1
ttable.3.11 1
ttable.4.12 1
ttable.5.13 1
ttable.6.14 1
ttable.7.15 1
slave.pcm hdsp
}
pcm.hdsp_spdif {
type plug
ttable.0.16 1
ttable.1.17 1
slave.pcm hdsp
}
you can check the number of your hdsp through:
cat /proc/asound/cards
and test your setting using
aplay -d hdsp_analog <path_to_a_wav_or_pcm_file"
is this doesn't work try to check if it's usable as plugdevice:
aplay -d plughw:0,0 <path_to_a_wav_or_pcm_file"
good luck
Martin
Am Sonntag, den 01.10.2006, 20:15 +0200 schrieb
Dragan Noveski:
hi,
thanx very much for this response,
unfortunately it does not helps in my case!
i never used a .asoundrc, so copied and pasted that one from the link
above, now after the boot, i dont have to run alsaconf anymore, rme
shows up as hw:0,0, which is actually good.
but xmms still has that problem, after setting up the .asoundrc, xmms
begins to play for 2 seconds a very dirty distorted sound but than it
crashes again.
i am trying to use "hdsp_analog" as the output in xmms, but i have the
feeling that xmms does not remember this entry, everytime i open up the
"configure" dialog in the xmms, it is setted to default again?
any other hints?
cheers,
doc
hi to the list,
i have a strange issue here with xmms, which wants not to play via
rme-multiface.
i am using 2.6.18-rt5 kernel, compiled with 1000Hz option, when i load
my usb device, or the onboard sound, xmms plays very well, but only on
the multiface i have the issue, that xmms responses only the first
"click" and than it freezes.
the same issue i have using the 2.6.16-rt13 kernel, but as it is working
on these kernels using the usb/onboard sound, i dont think that this is
related to the kernel, but perhaps to the firmware?
dont know.
does anybody else have this problem using rme-cards?
cheers,
doc
Hi,
my Multiface is running fine with xmms under 2.6.26-rt29. The only thing
is, that xmms only accepts the grouped outputs set in my ~/.asoundrc
For example my multiface is hw:2, but xmms can't acces hw:2,0. So I have
to set:
pcm.hdsp {
type hw
card 2
}
ctl.hdsp {
type hw
card 2
}
pcm.hdsp_analog {
type plug
ttable.0.0 1
ttable.1.1 1
ttable.2.2 1
ttable.3.3 1
ttable.4.4 1
ttable.5.5 1
ttable.6.6 1
ttable.7.7 1
slave.pcm hdsp
}
in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
Mor infos to goup your channels can be found here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7024
regards
Martin
4:46 p.m.
>>
>> in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>
please, can you tell me how do you set this?
in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
something
which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it does not
accepts "hdsp_analog"?
Mor infos to goup your channels can be found here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7024
regards
Martin
you can check the number of your hdsp through:
cat /proc/asound/cards
nowhiskey@murija2:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [DSP ]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP
RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface at 0xd2000000, irq 11
1 [Audio ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio
USB Audio at usb-0000:00:1d.1-2, full speed
2 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0xd0100c00, irq 11
nowhiskey@murija2:~$
and test your setting using
aplay -d hdsp_analog <path_to_a_wav_or_pcm_file"
is this doesn't work try to check if it's usable as plugdevice:
aplay -d plughw:0,0 <path_to_a_wav_or_pcm_file"
that both works.
but i found out that stopping jack and starting xmms than, everything
runs good, so the problem must be with "jacklaunch" ?
good lucknowhiskey@murija2:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [DSP ]: H-DSP - Hammerfall DSP
RME Hammerfall DSP + Multiface at 0xd2000000, irq 11
1 [Audio ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio
USB Audio at usb-0000:00:1d.1-2, full speed
2 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0xd0100c00, irq 11
nowhiskey@murija2:~$
Martin
cheers,
doc
5:16 p.m.
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 20:48 +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
Sounds like XMMS is set to use the OSS output plugin. You need to
configure it to use ALSA.
Lee
>>
>> in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>
please, can you tell me how do you set this?
in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
something
which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it does not
accepts "hdsp_analog"?
5:40 p.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 20:48 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
Sounds like XMMS is set to use the OSS output plugin. You need to
configure it to use ALSA.
Lee
no, there is libjackxmms.so working as a output plugin, xmms plays on my
usb device or the onboard sound, only it does not plays with multiface.
if i choose "libalsa.so" as the output plugin, than i get the error
message from xmms, that the device is already in use -jack is using it.
than i can configure that xmms plays on another device, b.e. usb, and
than everything works, so it just want not to use the same device as
multiface is using.
does it makes sense?
cheers,
doc
cheers,
doc
>>
in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>
>>
please, can you tell me how do you set this?
in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
something
which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it does not
accepts "hdsp_analog"?
5:49 p.m.
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 21:43 +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
Lee Revell wrote:
You're not going to be able to use XMMS with ALSA output while JACK is
running as the HDSP lacks hardware mixing. If you're using XMMS with
the JACK output plugin then you can't use devices defined in .asoundrc -
you have to configure XMMS to output to JACK ports.
Lee
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 20:48 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
Sounds like XMMS is set to use the OSS output plugin. You need to
configure it to use ALSA.
Lee
no, there is libjackxmms.so working as a output plugin, xmms plays on my
usb device or the onboard sound, only it does not plays with multiface.
if i choose "libalsa.so" as the output plugin, than i get the error
message from xmms, that the device is already in use -jack is using it.
than i can configure that xmms plays on another device, b.e. usb, and
than everything works, so it just want not to use the same device as
multiface is using.
does it makes sense? >>
in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>
>>
please, can you tell me how do you set this?
in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
something
which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it does not
accepts "hdsp_analog"?
6:03 p.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 21:43 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
ok, that sounds interesting: no using libalsa.so while jack is runing,
no able to use libjackxmms.so,
so how i do adjust the xmms to connect to jack.
usualy i do this with "jacklaunch", but on multiface it does not run.
cheers,
doc
Lee Revell wrote:
You're not going to be able to use XMMS with ALSA output while JACK is
running as the HDSP lacks hardware mixing. If you're using XMMS with
the JACK output plugin then you can't use devices defined in .asoundrc -
you have to configure XMMS to output to JACK ports.
Lee
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 20:48 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
no, there is libjackxmms.so working as a output plugin, xmms plays on my
usb device or the onboard sound, only it does not plays with multiface.
if i choose "libalsa.so" as the output plugin, than i get the error
message from xmms, that the device is already in use -jack is using it.
than i can configure that xmms plays on another device, b.e. usb, and
than everything works, so it just want not to use the same device as
multiface is using.
does it makes sense?
>>> in my ~/.asoundrc and use
`hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
please, can you tell me how do you set this?
in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
something
which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it does not
accepts "hdsp_analog"?
Sounds like XMMS is set to use the OSS output plugin. You need to
configure it to use ALSA.
Lee
6:16 p.m.
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 22:05 +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
Lee Revell wrote:
No idea. It should work with libjackxmms.
Maybe you should try a newer player, with native JACK support. XMMS has
been unmaintained for years.
Lee
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 21:43 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
ok, that sounds interesting: no using libalsa.so while jack is runing,
no able to use libjackxmms.so,
so how i do adjust the xmms to connect to jack.
usualy i do this with "jacklaunch", but on multiface it does not run. Lee Revell wrote:
You're not going to be able to use XMMS with ALSA output while JACK is
running as the HDSP lacks hardware mixing. If you're using XMMS with
the JACK output plugin then you can't use devices defined in .asoundrc -
you have to configure XMMS to output to JACK ports.
Lee
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 20:48 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
>>>> in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> please, can you tell me how do you set this?
> in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
> something
> which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it does not
> accepts "hdsp_analog"?
>
>
Sounds like XMMS is set to use the OSS output plugin. You need to
configure it to use ALSA.
Lee
no, there is libjackxmms.so working as a output plugin, xmms plays on my
usb device or the onboard sound, only it does not plays with multiface.
if i choose "libalsa.so" as the output plugin, than i get the error
message from xmms, that the device is already in use -jack is using it.
than i can configure that xmms plays on another device, b.e. usb, and
than everything works, so it just want not to use the same device as
multiface is using.
does it makes sense?
6:30 p.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 22:05 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
of course, you are right, but the only ones which are able to play
cdda is alsaplayer (realy slow on my machine + very poor interface)
and xmms.
i just compiled aqualung, which looks very good and runs good too, but
no able to play cdda.
does anybody knows about another player which is able to play cdda in
jack modus?
cheers,
doc
Lee Revell wrote:
No idea. It should work with libjackxmms.
Maybe you should try a newer player, with native JACK support. XMMS has
been unmaintained for years.
Lee
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 21:43 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
ok, that sounds interesting: no using libalsa.so while jack is runing,
no able to use libjackxmms.so,
so how i do adjust the xmms to connect to jack.
usualy i do this with "jacklaunch", but on multiface it does not run.
Lee Revell wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 20:48 +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
>
>
>
>>>>> in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> please, can you tell me how do you set this?
>> in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
>> something
>> which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it does
not
>> accepts "hdsp_analog"?
>>
>>
>>
> Sounds like XMMS is set to use the OSS output plugin. You need to
> configure it to use ALSA.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
>
no, there is libjackxmms.so working as a output plugin, xmms plays on my
usb device or the onboard sound, only it does not plays with multiface.
if i choose "libalsa.so" as the output plugin, than i get the error
message from xmms, that the device is already in use -jack is using it.
than i can configure that xmms plays on another device, b.e. usb, and
than everything works, so it just want not to use the same device as
multiface is using.
does it makes sense?
You're not going to be able to use XMMS with ALSA output while JACK
is
running as the HDSP lacks hardware mixing. If you're using XMMS with
the JACK output plugin then you can't use devices defined in .asoundrc -
you have to configure XMMS to output to JACK ports.
Lee
8:09 p.m.
Am Dienstag, den 03.10.2006, 22:32 +0200 schrieb Dragan Noveski:
Lee Revell wrote:
Hi,
I tried once to use the native KDE CD playe r (i believe KSCD) with
jack. So I configured arts to use jack, but that's not a proper solution
just for hearing CDs.
I would recommend to stay at xmms (beacuse I also don't know another
jack ready sound player which is jack ready and plays CDDA).
So, if you want to use xmms wiht alsa, you have to stop jack on your
hdsp and use then you can the alsa outputplugin with hdsp_analog.
Otherwise you can leave jack running on your hdsp and use xmms with it's
jack output plug (http://xmms-jack.sourceforge.net) to connect it.
You can use qjackctl or qjackconnect to link xmms's output to the right
output of your soundcard.
Regards
Martin
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 22:05 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
of course, you are right, but the only ones which are able to play
cdda is alsaplayer (realy slow on my machine + very poor interface)
and xmms.
i just compiled aqualung, which looks very good and runs good too, but
no able to play cdda.
does anybody knows about another player which is able to play cdda in
jack modus?
cheers,
doc Lee Revell wrote:
No idea. It should work with libjackxmms.
Maybe you should try a newer player, with native JACK support. XMMS has
been unmaintained for years.
Lee
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 21:43 +0200, Dragan Noveski
wrote:
> Lee Revell wrote:
>
>
>> On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 20:48 +0200, Dragan Noveski wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> in my ~/.asoundrc and use `hdsp_analog` as output device in xmms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> please, can you tell me how do you set this?
>>> in my case "options-settings-configure output plugin" only accepts
>>> something
>>> which begins with "/", like "/dev..."what ever, but it
does not
>>> accepts "hdsp_analog"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Sounds like XMMS is set to use the OSS output plugin. You need to
>> configure it to use ALSA.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> no, there is libjackxmms.so working as a output plugin, xmms plays on my
> usb device or the onboard sound, only it does not plays with multiface.
> if i choose "libalsa.so" as the output plugin, than i get the error
> message from xmms, that the device is already in use -jack is using it.
> than i can configure that xmms plays on another device, b.e. usb, and
> than everything works, so it just want not to use the same device as
> multiface is using.
> does it makes sense?
>
>
You're not going to be able to use XMMS with ALSA output while JACK is
running as the HDSP lacks hardware mixing. If you're using XMMS with
the JACK output plugin then you can't use devices defined in .asoundrc -
you have to configure XMMS to output to JACK ports.
Lee
ok, that sounds interesting: no using libalsa.so while jack is runing,
no able to use libjackxmms.so,
so how i do adjust the xmms to connect to jack.
usualy i do this with "jacklaunch", but on multiface it does not run.
8:42 p.m.
Martin Wohlleben wrote:
....
Otherwise you can leave jack running on your hdsp and use xmms with it's
jack output plug (http://xmms-jack.sourceforge.net) to connect it.
You can use qjackctl or qjackconnect to link xmms's output to the right
output of your soundcard.
Regards
Martin
hey martin, that was the real hint!
i was using the "libjackxmms.so" as the output, but the thing i needed
to have is "lib jackout.so", availibel at the url you wrote above.
wow, it is running now again!
very much thanks to you martin and to other people tried to solve my
problem.
cheers,
doc
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