2 Jan
2013
2 Jan
'13
8:24 p.m.
check this out:
http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-Printed-Record/
the sound quality is quite bad, but it turns out the author neglected to
apply the RIAA curve to the master before rendering the groove, so it
could be made to sound much better. but that's not really the point :)
reminds me of a band i heard of in the 80s (forgot the name) who
released a single which, if recorded to some data cassette format, would
yield a computer game...
best,
jörn
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2 Jan
2 Jan
11:18 p.m.
Jörn Nettingsmeier <nettings(a)stackingdwarves.net> writes:
reminds me of a band i heard of in the 80s (forgot the
name) who
released a single which, if recorded to some data cassette format,
would yield a computer game...
There were several who did that -- some are listed here:
http://www.kempa.com/2004/03/09/vinyl-data/
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11:18 p.m.
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier <
nettings(a)stackingdwarves.net> wrote:
reminds me of a band i heard of in the 80s (forgot the name) who released
a single which, if recorded to some data cassette format, would yield a
computer game...
I remember spending time learning to write to cassette tape through a sound
card in BASIC in about that time frame IIRC. Wasn't actually an uncommon
practice.
Seablade
3 Jan
3 Jan
8:22 a.m.
On 01/01/2013 10:34 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
check this out:
http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-Printed-Record/
the sound quality is quite bad, but it turns out the author neglected to
apply the RIAA curve to the master before rendering the groove, so it
could be made to sound much better. but that's not really the point :)
Fascinating! I didn't think 3D printing had gotten to such resolutions
that it could do this. Wow!
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9:16 a.m.
On 01/02/2013 09:34 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
check this out:
http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-Printed-Record/
the sound quality is quite bad, but it turns out the author neglected to
apply the RIAA curve to the master before rendering the groove, so it
could be made to sound much better. but that's not really the point :)
reminds me of a band i heard of in the 80s (forgot the name) who
released a single which, if recorded to some data cassette format, would
yield a computer game...
best,
jörn
Who wants vinyl records when you can press records on the coolest
material ever?
http://hackaday.com/2012/12/31/ice-record-single-needs-six-hours-in-the-dee…
Regards,
Jeremy
2:03 p.m.
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:34:18 +0100 Jörn Nettingsmeier
<nettings(a)stackingdwarves.net> wrote:
check this out:
http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-Printed-Record/
the sound quality is quite bad, but it turns out the author neglected
to apply the RIAA curve to the master before rendering the groove, so
it could be made to sound much better. but that's not really the
point :)
Be aware that this (sadly) is with a 30k printer, the accuracy of the
1k$ printers for home is not yet up to that. But what if one printed a
record with deeper and bigger grooves at home and also printed a
fitting needle? Add a nice membrane and a horn and you get your own
record-player...
reminds me of a band i heard of in the 80s (forgot the
name) who
released a single which, if recorded to some data cassette format,
would yield a computer game...
Now this makes me feel older than you are, but this is what I got from
people wh remember the times (where they really there if they remember
it?):
There where radio-stations sending out programs (as computer-programs)
to record and then use on your C64. And I believe also some TV-shows
sending a black-and-white box in a corner which was binary code...
A band distributing a game via vinyl was probably one of the slowest
distribution ways even at that time without the global internets.
On the other hand: what would happen if one uses vmlinuz and initrd as
raw-input for lame and then back to 'wave' with mpg123?
Have fun,
Arnold
4:56 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 15:02:54 +0100
Arnold Krille <arnold(a)arnoldarts.de> wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:34:18 +0100 Jörn Nettingsmeier
<nettings(a)stackingdwarves.net> wrote:
I remember those days. At one point the PBS TV station in Boston was
broadcasting a PCM simulcast of their FM station, but you needed a special
decoder to hear it. I remember at least once recording a radio broadcast
of a program that would run on a Sinclair ZX81. I got it to work but yikes,
it was tedious.
reminds me of a band i heard of in the 80s
(forgot the name) who
released a single which, if recorded to some data cassette format,
would yield a computer game...
There where radio-stations sending out programs (as computer-programs)
to record and then use on your C64. And I believe also some TV-shows
sending a black-and-white box in a corner which was binary code... A band distributing a game via vinyl was probably one
of the slowest
distribution ways even at that time without the global internets.
Actually, it was pretty damn clever, and when the only other alternative
was to type in a program, we jumped at the chance to try it. The Tarbell
system that was used to encode data on a cassette tape, and though it was
capable of delivering up to 540 bytes/sec, most data was transferred at
187 bytes/sec (1500 bits/sec, or 800 bits/inch of tape). Loading programs
of any decent size took what felt like forever, and there was always the
possibility that the data wouldn't load if the tape was flaky.
On the other hand: what would happen if one uses
vmlinuz and initrd as
raw-input for lame and then back to 'wave' with mpg123?
Don't even need that step:
$ aplay /boot/vmlinuz-3.6.7-4.fc16.x86_64
Playing raw data '/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.7-4.fc16.x86_64' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000
Hz, Mono
Pure raw noise :)
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9:33 p.m.
On Thu, January 3, 2013 8:56 am, Joe Hartley wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 15:02:54 +0100
> On the other hand: what would happen if one uses
vmlinuz and initrd as
> raw-input for lame and then back to 'wave' with mpg123?
Coding as MP3 would not work because it is lossy.
Don't even need that step:
$ aplay /boot/vmlinuz-3.6.7-4.fc16.x86_64
Playing raw data '/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.7-4.fc16.x86_64' : Unsigned 8 bit,
Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
Pure raw noise :)
This would work or convert to flac. But I don't know how much flac would
reduce the size as I think vmlinuz is already compressed.... it might even
get bigger.
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11:10 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:33:15 -0800 "Len Ovens" <len(a)ovenwerks.net> wrote:
On Thu, January 3, 2013 8:56 am, Joe Hartley wrote:
Maybe a bit of clarification is needed: I didn't intend to listen to
vmlinuz. I actually wanted to inspire someone with more time then me to
purposefully use the lossy compression of mp3 (or ogg for that matter)
to see if the decompressed data would still give a somewhat working
kernel. Think art. Maybe even develop this to a greater project where
the zlib-compression of the kernel gets replaced by the lossy
compression of mp3 or ogg. Then set up a machine to repeatedly boot
these kernels compressed with varying compression rates (and make use
of the hw watchdog to reboot the system). Could be more fun then some
kilos of butter in a corner.
Have a nice day/night,
Arnold
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 15:02:54 +0100
> On the other hand: what would happen if one
uses vmlinuz and
> initrd as raw-input for lame and then back to 'wave' with mpg123?
Coding as MP3 would not work because it is lossy.
Don't even need that step:
$ aplay /boot/vmlinuz-3.6.7-4.fc16.x86_64
Playing raw data '/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.7-4.fc16.x86_64' : Unsigned 8
bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
Pure raw noise :)
This would work or convert to flac. But I don't know how much flac
would reduce the size as I think vmlinuz is already compressed.... it
might even get bigger.
11:27 p.m.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:10:35 +0100
Arnold Krille <arnold(a)arnoldarts.de> wrote:
Could be more fun then some kilos of butter in a
corner.
Damn, you know how to have a good time!
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8 Jan
8 Jan
2:46 p.m.
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 15:02 +0100, Arnold Krille wrote:
And I believe also some TV-shows sending a
black-and-white box in a
corner which was binary code...
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