22 Mar
2005
22 Mar
'05
10:32 p.m.
Hi All,
Frustrated that my laptop doesn't have line-in and that the mic-in is not
very useful (unbalanced, no phantom power) I have finally invested in an
external USB interface, the Tascam US-122.
Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work with my laptop though it works
mostly-ok with my desktop.
The two applications I have tried to use are jack+ardour and the standard
ALSA aplay. ALSA aplay does work for a while but can stall part way through
playing and then never seems to recover eventually reporting I/O error.
Jackd will sometimes run for a few seconds without error but soon starts
reporting errors of the form:
delay of 24606.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
delay of 24779.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
delay of 24781.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
delay of 24741.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
jackd watchdog: timeout - killing jackd
Meanwhile, on the console/syslog the following message appears:
Mar 22 19:49:31 alfroid kernel: ep=10 stalled with status=-63
I have read the thread on this list "USX2Y rawusb mode" and have therefore
already tried turning off ACPI and running with nrpacks=4. Turning off ACPI
seemed to make little difference though it did change the interrupt
assignments, while nrpacks=4 seems to have improved things slighly though
not reliable enough to use. Changing the -p option seems to change the values
of time reported above but that's about all. The problem is just the same for
either 44100 or 48000 sample rate.
I have tried kernels 2.6.10, 2.6.11, 2.6.11.4 and 2.6.11.5. The 2.6.11
series seems to be closer to working. Anyone please have ideas of what to
try next or what info I could gather than would be useful?
By comparison it works a treat on my desktop PC apart from one from little
niggle (which also affects the laptop). Sometimes when unplugging the
US-122 the keyboard on the PC locks up. At this point it is usually still
possible to log in over the network and shut the PC down which is
sometimes sucessful and sometimes it hangs somewhere in the shutdown sequence.
From my laptop, /proc/interrupts with ACPI on:
CPU0
0: 26742183 XT-PIC timer
1: 7401 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 1148549 XT-PIC VIA686A, ohci1394, VIA82XX-MODEM
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
9: 4 XT-PIC acpi
10: 1218664 XT-PIC eth0, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd
12: 77339 XT-PIC i8042
14: 71223 XT-PIC ide0
15: 13 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
LOC: 0
ERR: 0
MIS: 0
/proc/interrupts with acpi=off:
CPU0
0: 97345 XT-PIC timer
1: 129 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 100000 XT-PIC VIA686A, VIA82XX-MODEM
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
10: 16371 XT-PIC uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, eth0
11: 0 XT-PIC ohci1394
12: 113 XT-PIC i8042
14: 5280 XT-PIC ide0
15: 13 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
LOC: 0
ERR: 0
MIS: 0
TiA,
Steve.
22 Mar
22 Mar
11:02 p.m.
Wow, seems like you're having pretty much exactly the same kinds
of troubles I've had, right down to the occasional keyboard
lockup. Maybe something strange with the via chipset? What sort
of computer are you using? I still haven't gotten my US-428 to
function as an audio device. Now I end up just using it as a
control surface(but I'm eyeing greedily the behringer BCF)
-spencer
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:32:22AM +0000, Steve Fosdick wrote:
Hi All,
Frustrated that my laptop doesn't have line-in and that the mic-in is not
very useful (unbalanced, no phantom power) I have finally invested in an
external USB interface, the Tascam US-122.
Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work with my laptop though it works
mostly-ok with my desktop.
The two applications I have tried to use are jack+ardour and the standard
ALSA aplay. ALSA aplay does work for a while but can stall part way through
playing and then never seems to recover eventually reporting I/O error.
Jackd will sometimes run for a few seconds without error but soon starts
reporting errors of the form:
delay of 24606.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
delay of 24779.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
delay of 24781.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
delay of 24741.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
jackd watchdog: timeout - killing jackd
Meanwhile, on the console/syslog the following message appears:
Mar 22 19:49:31 alfroid kernel: ep=10 stalled with status=-63
I have read the thread on this list "USX2Y rawusb mode" and have therefore
already tried turning off ACPI and running with nrpacks=4. Turning off ACPI
seemed to make little difference though it did change the interrupt
assignments, while nrpacks=4 seems to have improved things slighly though
not reliable enough to use. Changing the -p option seems to change the values
of time reported above but that's about all. The problem is just the same for
either 44100 or 48000 sample rate.
I have tried kernels 2.6.10, 2.6.11, 2.6.11.4 and 2.6.11.5. The 2.6.11
series seems to be closer to working. Anyone please have ideas of what to
try next or what info I could gather than would be useful?
By comparison it works a treat on my desktop PC apart from one from little
niggle (which also affects the laptop). Sometimes when unplugging the
US-122 the keyboard on the PC locks up. At this point it is usually still
possible to log in over the network and shut the PC down which is
sometimes sucessful and sometimes it hangs somewhere in the shutdown sequence.
From my laptop, /proc/interrupts with ACPI on:
CPU0
0: 26742183 XT-PIC timer
1: 7401 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 1148549 XT-PIC VIA686A, ohci1394, VIA82XX-MODEM
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
9: 4 XT-PIC acpi
10: 1218664 XT-PIC eth0, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd
12: 77339 XT-PIC i8042
14: 71223 XT-PIC ide0
15: 13 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
LOC: 0
ERR: 0
MIS: 0
/proc/interrupts with acpi=off:
CPU0
0: 97345 XT-PIC timer
1: 129 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 100000 XT-PIC VIA686A, VIA82XX-MODEM
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
10: 16371 XT-PIC uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, eth0
11: 0 XT-PIC ohci1394
12: 113 XT-PIC i8042
14: 5280 XT-PIC ide0
15: 13 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
LOC: 0
ERR: 0
MIS: 0
TiA,
Steve.
23 Mar
23 Mar
11:23 a.m.
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 10:08 -0500, Spencer Russell wrote:
Wow, seems like you're having pretty much exactly
the same kinds
of troubles I've had, right down to the occasional keyboard
lockup. Maybe something strange with the via chipset?
Nope, keyboard lockups happen here too. And others have reported the
same, for me it's when I unplug my ua-25 so it's not card specific.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:32:22AM +0000, Steve
Fosdick wrote:
> Jackd will sometimes run for a few seconds without error but soon starts
> reporting errors of the form:
>
> delay of 24606.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
> delay of 24779.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
> delay of 24781.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
> delay of 24741.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart ...
> jackd watchdog: timeout - killing jackd
>
See http://lalists.stanford.edu/lau/2005/03/0688.html which has gone
ignored on both this list and the jack devel list.
> I have tried kernels 2.6.10, 2.6.11, 2.6.11.4 and
2.6.11.5. The 2.6.11
> series seems to be closer to working.
I've tried from 2.6.8.1 up to 2.6.12.rcX, no love.
I also suspected IRQ issues, and digging through kernel-parameters.txt
brought me this boot option: acpi_irq_balance
Adding this to my grub.conf resulted in my usb bus no longer being
shared with my graphics adapter and about 5 other things.
Unfortunately this change in IRQ assignment seems to have zero effect.
I'm not sure what's to blame for the "delay of XXX.XXX usecs" messages,
however I know that more USB users than you are troubled by this. My
intuitively ordered list of suspects is:
1) kernel
2) alsa-drivers
3) jackd
and of course superseding all is my flaky hardware and software setup :)
however as I find more people with these issues I'm less likely to blame
myself. The ua-25 works flawlessly in OS X btw.
-good luck
--
Ryan Gallagher <ruinaudio(a)comcast.net>
9:40 p.m.
On 22/03/05 15:08:11, Spencer Russell wrote:
Wow, seems like you're having pretty much exactly
the same kinds
of troubles I've had, right down to the occasional keyboard
lockup. Maybe something strange with the via chipset? What sort
of computer are you using?
It says it's a Sharp but which Taiwanese company reallly makes it I
don't know. Anyway it has an Athlon XP1400 processor and VIA chipset.
My desktop, which works, is much older and has an Athlon 750 and AMD 756
chipset. On the desktop I have never been able to get the integrated
USB ports to work - Linux recognises the host controller but not
anything I plug into one of the ports. When I bought an MP3 player that
implements USB2.0 I ended up buying a USB2.0 PCI card which seems to
work fine with the MP3 player and with the US-122 (which appears to be
USB1.1). Interestingly the PCI USB card has a VIA chip on it too so
maybe it is something else in the VIA chipset on the laptop that is
causing trouble.
Steve.
6:21 a.m.
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 03:32, Steve Fosdick wrote:
This could be a problem, I would focus on splitting these up. (And perhaps
disable network while recording.)
Perhaps this helps...
Arnold
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Frustrated that my laptop doesn't have line-in and
that the mic-in is not
very useful (unbalanced, no phantom power) I have finally invested in an
external USB interface, the Tascam US-122.
Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work with my laptop though it works
mostly-ok with my desktop.
Mine works good with desktop and laptop. :-P
The two applications I have tried to use are
jack+ardour and the standard
ALSA aplay. ALSA aplay does work for a while but can stall part way
through playing and then never seems to recover eventually reporting I/O
error.
Jackd will sometimes run for a few seconds without error but soon starts
reporting errors of the form:
delay of 24606.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000; restart
... delay of 24779.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 23134.000;
restart ... delay of 24781.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of
23134.000; restart ... delay of 24741.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare
time of 23134.000; restart ... jackd watchdog: timeout - killing jackd
Yeah, I got this too, sometime back.
I have read the thread on this list "USX2Y rawusb
mode" and have therefore
already tried turning off ACPI and running with nrpacks=4. Turning off
ACPI seemed to make little difference though it did change the interrupt
assignments, while nrpacks=4 seems to have improved things slighly though
not reliable enough to use. Changing the -p option seems to change the
values of time reported above but that's about all. The problem is just
the same for either 44100 or 48000 sample rate.
Did you set the jack-options according to nrpacks=4?
I once tried playing with this option but dropped it as it brought no
advantage for me.
Mine currently works with several different settings, I have attached my
qjackctlrc...
I have tried kernels 2.6.10, 2.6.11, 2.6.11.4 and
2.6.11.5. The 2.6.11
series seems to be closer to working. Anyone please have ideas of what to
try next or what info I could gather than would be useful?
I am using 2.6.11 successfully...
By comparison it works a treat on my desktop PC apart
from one from little
niggle (which also affects the laptop). Sometimes when unplugging the
US-122 the keyboard on the PC locks up. At this point it is usually still
possible to log in over the network and shut the PC down which is
sometimes sucessful and sometimes it hangs somewhere in the shutdown
sequence.
I get this error occasionally on my desktop-system. But as this has two
soundcards I don't need a third very often...
From my laptop,
/proc/interrupts with ACPI on:
CPU0
0: 26742183 XT-PIC timer
1: 7401 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 1148549 XT-PIC VIA686A, ohci1394, VIA82XX-MODEM
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
9: 4 XT-PIC acpi
10: 1218664 XT-PIC eth0, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd
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