29 Apr
2010
29 Apr
'10
6:40 p.m.
Hi
I have some audio that is recorded without click. It's not wildly rubato
or anything, but it naturally doesn't align well with a sequencer
running at a steady tempo, which is exactly what I'd like to achieve.
I seem to remember audour can do something in this area, but what would
be the best way to get the audio in sync with a strict tempo?
--
Atte
http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk
29 Apr
29 Apr
8:03 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I have some audio that is recorded without click. It's not wildly rubato or
anything, but it naturally doesn't align well with a sequencer running at a
steady tempo, which is exactly what I'd like to achieve.
I seem to remember audour can do something in this area, but what would be
the best way to get the audio in sync with a strict tempo?
On different platforms, i'd recommend looking at N.I's "Reaktor" or
"Traktor" which nicely integrates beat-matching and both can output OSC; if
you learn when to trigger a re-sync (giving the software a hint on what part
of the beats should match) sometimes it almost works && you can
"torture"
some interesting sounds out of it as well (warning: glitchy,
experimental&live:)
http://nielsmayer.com/DJColtraneRexx_TheRevealingScienceOfParticles_scratch…
http://nielsmayer.com/DJColtraneRexx_Frithyloop.mp3
Is there anything like Ableton Live for Linux, yet?
I wish there was a decent "looper plugin" that could "plot" any
vector, at
any speed/pitch(&granularity), through any soundfile and output digital
audio, while also outputting its derived tempo, through whatever means
necessary (OSC?) to whatever app it is plugged into. Alternately the same
plugin can sync to master tempo on OSC (or whatever) "bus." That way you can
get rid of quirky and fundamentally limited "DJ" apps and reuse their
functionality within your DAW of choice: each track, loop & sample can be
"flown in" to the overall workflow&BPM-mapping generated by the DAW.
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
2 May
2 May
2:34 p.m.
On Thursday 29 April 2010 21:03:27 Niels Mayer wrote:
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Atte André Jensen
<atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
For a nice, expressive ballad, I have actually aligned the tempo graphically
to the audio. Surprisingly effective, possible in qtractor or rosegarden. Set
tempos so that the beat lines hit the audio where one wants.
Faster stuff done without the click track, things can be quite chaotic,
however. I do like recording ballads without clicks or by varying the tempo
planned ahead.
One can snip the audio and move it to beat lines. Might have to expand or
contract in extreme cases or crossfade. Any of the programs should be
adequate.
I have some audio that is recorded without click.
It's not wildly rubato
or anything, but it naturally doesn't align well with a sequencer
running at a steady tempo, which is exactly what I'd like to achieve.
I seem to remember audour can do something in this area, but what would
be the best way to get the audio in sync with a strict tempo?
On different platforms, i'd recommend looking at N.I's "Reaktor" or
"Traktor" which nicely integrates beat-matching and both can output OSC; if
you learn when to trigger a re-sync (giving the software a hint on what
part of the beats should match) sometimes it almost works && you can
"torture" some interesting sounds out of it as well (warning: glitchy,
experimental&live:)
http://nielsmayer.com/DJColtraneRexx_TheRevealingScienceOfParticles_scratch
padmix1.mp3 http://nielsmayer.com/DJColtraneRexx_Frithyloop.mp3
Is there anything like Ableton Live for Linux, yet?
I wish there was a decent "looper plugin" that could "plot" any
vector, at
any speed/pitch(&granularity), through any soundfile and output digital
audio, while also outputting its derived tempo, through whatever means
necessary (OSC?) to whatever app it is plugged into. Alternately the same
plugin can sync to master tempo on OSC (or whatever) "bus." That way you
can get rid of quirky and fundamentally limited "DJ" apps and reuse their
functionality within your DAW of choice: each track, loop & sample can be
"flown in" to the overall workflow&BPM-mapping generated by the DAW.
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com
4:40 p.m.
David Baron wrote:
For a nice, expressive ballad, I have actually aligned
the tempo graphically
to the audio. Surprisingly effective, possible in qtractor or rosegarden. Set
tempos so that the beat lines hit the audio where one wants.
So you're talking "the other way round", right? So you're changing the
tempo of the sequencer to fit the tempo of the recorded audio? Maybe I
should take that route, it might make for some quite organic music...
--
Atte
http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk
4:51 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, David Baron <d_baron(a)012.net.il> wrote:
For a nice, expressive ballad, I have actually aligned
the tempo graphically
to the audio. Surprisingly effective, possible in qtractor or rosegarden. Set
tempos so that the beat lines hit the audio where one wants.
Rosegarden has a feature that can sometimes help with this -- Set
Tempos from Beat Segment. (Hm, wonder why it doesn't say "tempi".)
To use it, record a new segment in which (on a MIDI keyboard or
whatever) you tap one note at each beat -- tapping along with the real
time of the audio or whatever you want to align it with. Then select
that segment and activate the function (Composition -> Set Tempos from
Beat Segment). Rosegarden will then calculate a tempo change for each
beat, such that all the other MIDI segments will have their beats
moved to the times you tapped at.
Chris
5:11 p.m.
On Sun, 2 May 2010 15:51:20 +0100
Chris Cannam <cannam(a)all-day-breakfast.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, David Baron
<d_baron(a)012.net.il> wrote:
Woo! I never knew about this!!!
The times I've farted about aligning segments by hand :(
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
For a nice, expressive ballad, I have actually
aligned the tempo graphically
to the audio. Surprisingly effective, possible in qtractor or rosegarden. Set
tempos so that the beat lines hit the audio where one wants.
Rosegarden has a feature that can sometimes help with this -- Set
Tempos from Beat Segment. (Hm, wonder why it doesn't say "tempi".)
To use it, record a new segment in which (on a MIDI keyboard or
whatever) you tap one note at each beat -- tapping along with the real
time of the audio or whatever you want to align it with. Then select
that segment and activate the function (Composition -> Set Tempos from
Beat Segment). Rosegarden will then calculate a tempo change for each
beat, such that all the other MIDI segments will have their beats
moved to the times you tapped at.
Chris
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