18 Nov
2004
18 Nov
'04
5:49 p.m.
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:09 +0100, Giuliano Pochini wrote:
No, it's not hard because there are a lot of
skilled people around, but
the card would be expensive. There was a thread about a project of "open
source" graphic card recently on lkml.
And I posted a [possibly OT] rant to that thread about how this was a
waste of time and how you could REALLY make a killing with open sound
hardware.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/10/23/292
I got one "right on, brother" response via private mail and that was it.
But then again half the kernel guys don't have sound cards in their
machines ;-)
Lee
18 Nov
18 Nov
6:32 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] Firewire Audio Card Support
That is a damn good rant! I agree completely. Unfortunately I only do
software :-/
Jan
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 14:16, Lee Revell wrote:
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:09 +0100, Giuliano Pochini
wrote:
No, it's not hard because there are a lot of
skilled people around, but
the card would be expensive. There was a thread about a project of "open
source" graphic card recently on lkml.
And I posted a [possibly OT] rant to that thread about how this was a
waste of time and how you could REALLY make a killing with open sound
hardware.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/10/23/292
I got one "right on, brother" response via private mail and that was it.
But then again half the kernel guys don't have sound cards in their
machines ;-)
Lee
6:55 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] Firewire Audio Card Support
I've had this sort of project on my mind for a year or two. (Since my
first run in with the HDSP 9652 under Linux in early 2003.) I am,
unlike I think many people here, a hardware designer by trade. Mostly
chips, but my engineers had done boards for our chips.
Coincedentally I was laid off yesterday and am sitting at home
thinking about what to do with myself during my current delimma...
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:49:29 -0600, Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> wrote:
That is a damn good rant! I agree completely.
Unfortunately I only do
software :-/
Jan
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 14:16, Lee Revell wrote:
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:09 +0100, Giuliano
Pochini wrote:
No, it's not hard because there are a lot of
skilled people around, but
the card would be expensive. There was a thread about a project of "open
source" graphic card recently on lkml.
And I posted a [possibly OT] rant to that thread about how this was a
waste of time and how you could REALLY make a killing with open sound
hardware.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/10/23/292
I got one "right on, brother" response via private mail and that was it.
But then again half the kernel guys don't have sound cards in their
machines ;-)
Lee
8:30 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] Firewire Audio Card Support
Mark Knecht wrote:
Coincedentally I was laid off yesterday and am sitting
at home
thinking about what to do with myself during my current delimma...
Maybe make some new music ?
(Sorry, Mark, I couldn't resist. I hope the job situation resolves
itself for you quickly.)
Best,
dp
8:41 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] Firewire Audio Card Support
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:36:59 -0500, Dave Phillips <dlphilp(a)bright.net> wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
That's what I'm thinking. I'm trying to get a kernel built for my HDSP
9652 machine so that I an run Ardour from there. No luck yet. I think
I didn't edit grub.conf right since I do't use and initrd file.
(Someday I'll actually discover what they do!) ;-)
Coincedentally I was laid off yesterday and am
sitting at home
thinking about what to do with myself during my current delimma...
Maybe make some new music ?
(Sorry, Mark, I couldn't resist. I hope the job situation resolves
itself for you quickly.)
Not expecting it to. Silicon Valley is still in the pits job wise and
no one hires between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I'll hang loose, look
for some consulting gigs, maybe help a couple of my customers from my
old company, etc. and drink a lot of eggnog I suppose.
Anyone wanna collaborate online over the next month or two? Need a
guitar player?
Best,
dp
9:40 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] Firewire Audio Card Support
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 04:41:58PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
That's what I'm thinking. I'm trying to get a kernel built for my HDSP
9652 machine so that I an run Ardour from there. No luck yet. I think
I didn't edit grub.conf right since I do't use and initrd file.
(Someday I'll actually discover what they do!) ;-)
They include modules and programs etc. that you might need at boottime when
the filesystem isn't available yet.
cheers,
Christian
19 Nov
19 Nov
1:12 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] Firewire Audio Card Support
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 15:16 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
And I posted a [possibly OT] rant to that thread about
how this was a
waste of time and how you could REALLY make a killing with open sound
hardware.
I've been doing hardware design and device driver development as part of
my day work. Designing open source hardware is possible in theory, but I
can't see who would pay the expenses of the development. Software and
hardware required to develop a proper hardware costs thousands of euros.
Also each prototype manufacturing of the PCB is about 500€, and
components a few hundred (because not buying >1000 each). So yeah, it
would be possible for about 10000€ if not counting price for the work. I
don't have, nor willing to spend that kind of money for development of
open piece of hardware. Someone else would of course collect the money
from the sales of such hardware.
Software is different thing, you are mostly spending just time. I've
still put a few thousand euros of pure money to my software projects.
It's a different thing is someone is willing to sponsor such a project.
--
Jussi Laako <jussi.laako(a)pp.inet.fi>
3:19 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] Firewire Audio Card Support
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 19:12 +0200, Jussi Laako wrote:
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 15:16 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
OK maybe you would not make a killing. I guess the real question is if
every LAU buys it, then how much do you need to make on each unit to be
worthwhile?
Compared to doing an open 3D graphics card, it sounds like a pretty good
deal. Bigger market, higher margins.
Lee
And I posted a [possibly OT] rant to that thread
about how this was a
waste of time and how you could REALLY make a killing with open sound
hardware.
I've been doing hardware design and device driver development as part of
my day work. Designing open source hardware is possible in theory, but I
can't see who would pay the expenses of the development.
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