On Tuesday 14 August 2007 12:26:41 Arnold Krille wrote:
Am Dienstag, 14. August 2007 schrieb Matthias
Schönborn:
Anyway, I don't understand why some people
make such a fuzz about it. Is
it so hard to get used to the new settings, even if it's the standard
setting among mailinglists?
Its not hard for pros like you and me. But its hard for beginners starting
with the whole linux and audio and email-lists -things. And they don't get
the replyToList-thing. Never (I know that all generalizations are false). On
all
the beginners-lists I am/was
subscribed to... Why should we make it hard for them
(and us having to
reply/forward their answers to the list)?
I know that all the sane emailers will do it right (kmail can recognize
when a folder contains a mailinglist and the normal replyTo will then do
the right thing) but if we really want to be open to new folks exploring
the free software world in all its beauty we should really lower the stakes
and introduce them to proper-rfc-compliant-lists only when reaching higher
levels (like *-dev).
Thanks for the compliment, but I don't consider myself as a pro, especially
because this is the first email list I ever subscribed to and I subscribed
just six weeks ago. So I could hardly be more of a Newbie to lists - and
repeating myself, I found it confusing that hitting the replybutton would
reply to the whole list! Though I must admit that I found the
reply-to-list-button just a few days ago, and additionally, that I use KMail
and let it do the "work" (and thus had surely made a mistake). But it's
mostly by mistakes that you learn (though for me it's that I learned about it
because of the discussions ;-) ).
And my comment yesterday was the first I did about the
whole discussion and
was triggered by one outlook-user who can really read multipart-emails
(outlooks fault) and two "private" answers that belonged to the list.
I don't really care if replyToMunging gets reactivated for this list or
not. If not I will probably stop getting "private" answers back on the
list. The advantage: The archives will be incomplete and may miss the
solutions to the problems. And beginners will wonder why only one guy
answers to the second mail, even more so if he doesn't come to a
conclusion. And others will use google and find their problem in our lists
archive but not the solution (I hate it when that happens to me!),
I surely agree with that one, happened to me too!
because
all the solving went off-list. Yes, I could always try to get the
discussions back on the list, but I am lazy and I want to talk/discuss
things, not deal with technical stuff that should just work. Maybe that
qualifies me foe getting a mac, I don't know, if they weren't so pricey I
would get one...
Though you surely don't have to forward every private message to the list, I
think it's not too hard to write a quick note of the solution when there's
finally one.
Regards,
Matthias