27 Jan
2006
27 Jan
'06
7:38 a.m.
There's a newer version of the track:
http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/download/music/zenmind-0.2.4.ogg
(28min, 27Mb)
MIDI from PureData->ZynAddSubFx -> jack_capture -> oggenc -q5
I would really really like to receive some feedback especially from
those interested in the generative technique. Even negative.
c.
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27 Jan
27 Jan
8:44 a.m.
I listened to the previous version and quite liked it, sorry I can't
be any more specific but I'm on my Mac and iTunes is broken for ogg
(again; grr...!).
I'm really interested in generative music - there are so many more
possibilites than Eno's tapes-going-out-of-sync idea.
Did you upload the patch itself?
8:58 a.m.
James McDermott wrote:
I listened to the previous version and quite liked it,
sorry I can't
be any more specific but I'm on my Mac and iTunes is broken for ogg
(again; grr...!).
There's also an mp3 version:
http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/download/music/zenmind-0.2.4.mp3
I'm really interested in generative music - there
are so many more
possibilites than Eno's tapes-going-out-of-sync idea.
Did you upload the patch itself?
I didn't publish the patch itself yet. I'm still working on it and
cleaning it up. I can send it to you if you're interested, along with
the Zyn patches.
I agree about the many possibilities. Generative techniques are
interesting when they're used as a tool but I hate when they're just an
intellectualistic autoreferential artistic proclamation.
c.
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9:16 a.m.
James McDermott escribe:
I'm really interested in generative music - there
are so many more
possibilites than Eno's tapes-going-out-of-sync idea.
Even Eno's aware of such many more possibilities. ;)
Cordially, Ismael
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9:27 a.m.
I'm really
interested in generative music - there are so many more
possibilites than Eno's tapes-going-out-of-sync idea.
Even Eno's aware of such many more possibilities. ;) 
9:02 a.m.
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 12:38 +0100, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
There's a newer version of the track:
http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/download/music/zenmind-0.2.4.ogg
(28min, 27Mb)
MIDI from PureData->ZynAddSubFx -> jack_capture -> oggenc -q5
I would really really like to receive some feedback especially from
those interested in the generative technique. Even negative.
I like it. And I _am_ interested (more in the algorithms used than the
PD implementation though, I've never really learnt PD).
And some negative feedback: set the Content-Type to application/ogg!
Firefox doesn't understand that it's supposed to open text/plain files
in XMMS.
The easiest way (if you're using Apache) is to add a .htaccess file in
the directory containing the Ogg file with this line in it:
AddType application/ogg ogg
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9:34 a.m.
Lars Luthman wrote:
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 12:38 +0100, Cesare Marilungo
wrote:
Each part (they're ten, one for each instrument) has a n/m chances to be
triggered every n seconds.
When a part is triggered it starts a metronome of n bps that - at every
beat - choose a random note from a list (some notes are repeated to have
more chances to be picked), but each note has also n/m chances to be played.
That's all.
So, part of the copyright of the *improvisation* is owned by those who
wrote the algorithm for generating random values. :-) Luckily, I guess
mine has been written by the gnu folks.
There's a newer version of the track:
http://www.cesaremarilungo.com/download/music/zenmind-0.2.4.ogg
(28min, 27Mb)
MIDI from PureData->ZynAddSubFx -> jack_capture -> oggenc -q5
I would really really like to receive some feedback especially from
those interested in the generative technique. Even negative.
I like it. And I _am_ interested (more in the algorithms used than the
PD implementation though, I've never really learnt PD).
And some negative feedback: set the Content-Type to
application/ogg!
Firefox doesn't understand that it's supposed to open text/plain files
in XMMS.
The easiest way (if you're using Apache) is to add a .htaccess file in
the directory containing the Ogg file with this line in it:
AddType application/ogg ogg
Are you sure the fault is not on your side? My website is hosted by a
commercial provider. I believe their apache is already configured and in
fact I can succesfully download an ogg file from my own website using
firefox and get it recognized as an ogg audio file.
Let me know, otherwise I'll add the line to my home directory .htaccess.
c.
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9:53 a.m.
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 14:34 +0100, Cesare Marilungo wrote:
I tried wget -S:
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:37:36 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.55
Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:32:02 GMT
ETag: "1fe0054-1a36ff0-5bc38880"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 27488240
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/plain <------
Firefox seems to do some sort of mapping using the filename extension as
well, but for some reason it's not the same as for the MIME type, at
least not with my configuration.
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Fingerprint: FCA7 C790 19B9 322D EB7A E1B3 4371 4650 04C7 7E2E
Lars Luthman wrote:
Cool. I suppose your note lists are tuned so that everything is at least
mostly in the same scale?
I like it. And I _am_ interested (more in the
algorithms used than the
PD implementation though, I've never really learnt PD).
Each part (they're ten, one for each instrument) has a n/m chances to be
triggered every n seconds.
When a part is triggered it starts a metronome of n bps that - at every
beat - choose a random note from a list (some notes are repeated to have
more chances to be picked), but each note has also n/m chances to be played. And some
negative feedback: set the Content-Type to application/ogg!
Firefox doesn't understand that it's supposed to open text/plain files
in XMMS.
Are you sure the fault is not on your side? My website is hosted by a
commercial provider. I believe their apache is already configured and in
fact I can succesfully download an ogg file from my own website using
firefox and get it recognized as an ogg audio file.
10:06 a.m.
Lars Luthman wrote:
I tried wget -S:
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:37:36 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.55
Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:32:02 GMT
ETag: "1fe0054-1a36ff0-5bc38880"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 27488240
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/plain <------
Firefox seems to do some sort of mapping using the filename extension as
well, but for some reason it's not the same as for the MIME type, at
least not with my configuration.
Ok. I checked myself and configured .htaccess. Now it should work.
c.
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On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 14:34 +0100, Cesare Marilungo
wrote:
Exactly. Plus, some instruments can choose from less notes or different
ones than others.
Lars Luthman wrote:
Cool. I suppose your note lists are tuned so that everything is at least
mostly in the same scale?
I like it. And I _am_ interested (more in the
algorithms used than the
PD implementation though, I've never really learnt PD).
Each part (they're ten, one for each instrument) has a n/m chances to be
triggered every n seconds.
When a part is triggered it starts a metronome of n bps that - at every
beat - choose a random note from a list (some notes are repeated to have
more chances to be picked), but each note has also n/m chances to be played.
And some
negative feedback: set the Content-Type to application/ogg!
Firefox doesn't understand that it's supposed to open text/plain files
in XMMS.
Are you sure the fault is not on your side? My website is hosted by a
commercial provider. I believe their apache is already configured and in
fact I can succesfully download an ogg file from my own website using
firefox and get it recognized as an ogg audio file.
28 Jan
28 Jan
9:21 a.m.
On Friday 27 January 2006 11:38, Cesare Marilungo was like:
I would really really like to receive some feedback
especially from
those interested in the generative technique. Even negative.
General impression of having listened to the previous version once is that,
like most generated music, it is very static. This technique slower with a
string sound would produce Gorecki like textures easily. I have an aesthetic
preference for music with more emotion, key changes and discords. The latter
two would be programmable. The results are listenable and very hypnotic,
however I'm not going to want to listen to half-hour slabs of it on a regular
basis. ;) A shorter rendering with an organic acoustic improvising soloist
would be more to my taste, but this is very subjective.
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cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
10:03 a.m.
tim hall wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 11:38, Cesare Marilungo was
like:
Thanks for listening, anyway.
c.
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www.cesaremarilungo.com
I would really really like to receive some
feedback especially from
those interested in the generative technique. Even negative.
General impression of having listened to the previous version once is that,
like most generated music, it is very static. This technique slower with a
string sound would produce Gorecki like textures easily. I have an aesthetic
preference for music with more emotion, key changes and discords. The latter
two would be programmable. The results are listenable and very hypnotic,
however I'm not going to want to listen to half-hour slabs of it on a regular
basis. ;) A shorter rendering with an organic acoustic improvising soloist
would be more to my taste, but this is very subjective.
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