On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:05:49 -0500, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote : It would be quite useful, though, and possibly not only for me. That knowledge should be able to be extracted from the Ardour source and adapt it for use outside of it. If it's mainly (only ?) knowledge, eg. that no methods other than for static information access are used. Hmmm.. maybe a yet unsaved session is asked about what tracks being in use or not ? But then, maybe an automatic save is made before calling the Session > Cleanup method. Perl would be good for that, with XML parsing capabilties 'built-in' so to speak. Unfortunately I'm too busy now to start such a project, although it's interesting.

<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote: Several years ago I had a fellow ask about parsing MMA library files. Instead of getting into details about why he shouldn't, etc. I just added a bit of code to the main application to do it for him. Did he use it? Nope, he insisted that his own parser was faster, etc. Only problem was that it didn't work (it did in his simple test cases) ... well, you know the rest :) Degenerated into a email shouting session and, I'm sure, he still figures I'm a jerk. -- **** Listen to my FREE CD at http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars **** Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA ** EMAIL: bob(a)mellowood.ca WWW: http://www.mellowood.ca

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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 05:18:29PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: The really useful thing would be something like ardour3 --cleanup <session_dir> which would just do the cleanup without starting the GUI, requiring Jack, etc. On a related note: some recent versions seem to ignore the path set in the new session dialog, and always use the default path from the rc file. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:17:10PM +0100, Arve Barsnes wrote: I'm using the Archlinux package. Arch maintainers won't change or patch anything unless it's absolutley unavoidable, so if A3 comes with some libraries of its own they probably get used. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

On Sunday 26 January 2014 17:18:29 Paul Davis wrote: Perhaps: ardour --cleanup project_name and then leave it up to the script to pass in the project names one at a time in a loop. all the best, drew

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:35 PM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com &lt;jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com&gt;wrote;wrote: because this protects your data from programming errors. if ardour can load the session again after a cleanup, then you are guaranteed that nothing will be deleted (by "Empty Wastebasket") that is still needed.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Fons Adriaensen &lt;fons(a)linuxaudio.org&gt;wrote;wrote: the cleanup code explicitly scans all snapshots in a session. this is not the case, and even though i have seen one report of this on IRC, my attempts to replicate it have failed. loading a snapshot and then saving will alter the state of the snapshot that was loaded, not the "current session" or any other snapshot. if you have a reproducible recipe for this behaviour, i could try to track it down.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Fons Adriaensen &lt;fons(a)linuxaudio.org&gt;wrote;wrote: the only intended difference between "save as" and "snapshot" is whether or not ardour does subsequent saves (while in the same instance) to the *new* session file or the current one. both operations are intended to create snapshots and snapshots are never read-only, except by user intent.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:50:38PM +0100, Lieven Moors wrote: There is a very simple solution for this. Currently 'Save as' and 'New snapshot' save exactly the same file, the only difference being that the latter doesn't change the current session name. Now if 'Save as' would add a property 'is_session=True' and 'New snapshot' would not do that, then Ardour could do the right thing when loading a file, i.e. only change the current session name if this property is set and True. Then if the user loads a snapshot AND wants to modify it, or change the session name, then all he/she needs to do is use 'Save as' again. Or there could be an option in the 'Load' dialog. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)