25 Jul
2008
25 Jul
'08
2:25 p.m.
I am going to build a new machine specifically for recording and producing
professional audio. I am somewhat new to Linux (and to building computers),
but I would like to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and gradually switch over to
Ubuntu for my recording projects.
I want to make sure all of the hardware I buy is Linux compatible. Does
anyone have recommendations for what to buy, or what not to buy?
Or, what's your dream setup for a Linux audio machine?
25 Jul
25 Jul
2:57 p.m.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:25 AM, b m <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am going to build a new machine specifically for
recording and producing
professional audio. I am somewhat new to Linux (and to building computers),
but I would like to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and gradually switch over to
Ubuntu for my recording projects.
I want to make sure all of the hardware I buy is Linux compatible. Does
anyone have recommendations for what to buy, or what not to buy?
Or, what's your dream setup for a Linux audio machine?
Depends a lot on how much stuff you want to hook up externally. How
many channels do you want to record at the same time? Are you going to
mix in software (Ardour) or go to an external digital board? How much
automation do you require? How many channels of external effects
(reverb, etc.) running at the same time? What base frequency are you
going to run? (44.1K, 96K, 192K, etc.)
As a good starting point I've been very happy with my HDSP 9652.
They're getting a bit old-school as they are PCI based so they aren't
great for mobile rigs. I've not tried any of the 1394 devices under
Linux (ala the Digi 002 devices that I've used under Windows) so I
cannot help with that.
External devices such as a D/A for your mains and other things can be
discussed when we get a better idea of what you're trying to build.
- Mark
3:27 p.m.
I am basically recording one track at a time, solo project style. Two
simultaneous inputs would be sufficient. Mix in Ardour. No external boards
or effects. At most, 20-25 audio and midi tracks each running a few effects
(usually just compression and reverb). 88 or 96k would be ideal.
Nothing mobile is needed. Just a home DAW, so PCI is fine, and probably
optimal for latency right?
Thanks for the quick response!
-Bobby
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:25 AM, b m
<otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am going to build a new machine specifically
for recording and
producing
professional audio. I am somewhat new to Linux
(and to building
computers),
but I would like to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and
gradually switch over to
Ubuntu for my recording projects.
I want to make sure all of the hardware I buy is Linux compatible. Does
anyone have recommendations for what to buy, or what not to buy?
Or, what's your dream setup for a Linux audio machine?
Depends a lot on how much stuff you want to hook up externally. How
many channels do you want to record at the same time? Are you going to
mix in software (Ardour) or go to an external digital board? How much
automation do you require? How many channels of external effects
(reverb, etc.) running at the same time? What base frequency are you
going to run? (44.1K, 96K, 192K, etc.)
As a good starting point I've been very happy with my HDSP 9652.
They're getting a bit old-school as they are PCI based so they aren't
great for mobile rigs. I've not tried any of the 1394 devices under
Linux (ala the Digi 002 devices that I've used under Windows) so I
cannot help with that.
External devices such as a D/A for your mains and other things can be
discussed when we get a better idea of what you're trying to build.
- Mark
3:46 p.m.
OK, then I vote for an HDSP 9636 with a Benchmark DAC1 for you mains.
Preamp inputs are up to you. The DAC1 seems to be an outdated model
now as Benchmark has added USB functionality so maybe you can get away
without the HDSP but I wouldn't know. Risky.
You could also look into the ADI series od A/D, D/A converters from
RME since they'll function perfectly with an HDSP.
Speakers, mics, etc., are up to you.
- mark
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:27 PM, b m <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am basically recording one track at a time, solo
project style. Two
simultaneous inputs would be sufficient. Mix in Ardour. No external boards
or effects. At most, 20-25 audio and midi tracks each running a few effects
(usually just compression and reverb). 88 or 96k would be ideal.
Nothing mobile is needed. Just a home DAW, so PCI is fine, and probably
optimal for latency right?
Thanks for the quick response!
-Bobby
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:25 AM, b m <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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I am going to build a new machine specifically
for recording and
producing
professional audio. I am somewhat new to Linux (and to building
computers),
but I would like to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and gradually switch over to
Ubuntu for my recording projects.
I want to make sure all of the hardware I buy is Linux compatible. Does
anyone have recommendations for what to buy, or what not to buy?
Or, what's your dream setup for a Linux audio machine?
Depends a lot on how much stuff you want to hook up externally. How
many channels do you want to record at the same time? Are you going to
mix in software (Ardour) or go to an external digital board? How much
automation do you require? How many channels of external effects
(reverb, etc.) running at the same time? What base frequency are you
going to run? (44.1K, 96K, 192K, etc.)
As a good starting point I've been very happy with my HDSP 9652.
They're getting a bit old-school as they are PCI based so they aren't
great for mobile rigs. I've not tried any of the 1394 devices under
Linux (ala the Digi 002 devices that I've used under Windows) so I
cannot help with that.
External devices such as a D/A for your mains and other things can be
discussed when we get a better idea of what you're trying to build.
- Mark 
5:35 p.m.
"Mark Knecht" <markknecht(a)gmail.com> writes:
D/A converters from RME since they'll function
perfectly with an
HDSP.
The best AD/DA converters on the market are from Analog Devices and
used in Apogee hardware, btw, last I checked.
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6:05 p.m.
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 01:30:00AM +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
"Mark Knecht" <markknecht(a)gmail.com>
writes:
Since we're now in the pricey range:
I've been using two of these recently, and they are
absolutely great:
<http://www.aphex.com/1788A.htm>
A bit less expensive and perfect for studio use
<http://www.aphex.com/141.htm>
<http://www.aphex.com/142.htm>
These two are for permanent installations, e.g. wired
to a patchbay or analog mixer, monitoring, etc.
BTW, I'm looking for a cardbus <-> ADAT interface for my
IBM R51. Any offers ?
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D/A converters from RME since they'll
function perfectly with an
HDSP.
The best AD/DA converters on the market are from Analog Devices and
used in Apogee hardware, btw, last I checked. 
10:28 p.m.
On 7/26/08, Dmitry Baikov <dsbaikov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Fons Adriaensen
<fons(a)kokkinizita.net>
wrote:
or older echo audio gear, mona/gina/layla cardbus ones, but you'd have
to pick them up second hand as they've been replaced by firewire in
the new lines. You still have an external box of other stuff though.
Loki
BTW, I'm looking for a cardbus <-> ADAT
interface for my
IBM R51. Any offers ?
The only option I know - RME HDSP Cardbus + Digiface.
Regards,
Dmitry.
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25 Jul
25 Jul
6:10 p.m.
Thank you all so much. This is great information. I will definitely check
out the different distros as well as the gear.
Any advice (or links to guides) on linux-compatible processors/motherboards
that can handle serious audio processing? I'm planning on at least 4gb of
RAM, possibly 8gb.
Thanks again!
-Bobby
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Esben Stien <b0ef(a)esben-stien.name> wrote:
"Mark Knecht" <markknecht(a)gmail.com>
writes:
D/A converters from RME since they'll
function perfectly with an
HDSP.
The best AD/DA converters on the market are from Analog Devices and
used in Apogee hardware, btw, last I checked.
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http://www. s t n m
irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact
sip:b0ef@ e e
jid:b0ef@ n n
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10:08 p.m.
"b m" <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> writes:
Any advice (or links to guides) on linux-compatible
processors/motherboards that can handle serious audio processing?
I'm planning on at least 4gb of RAM, possibly 8gb.
Top of the line from the compu hut is Tyan[0] and iWill.
[0]http://tyan.com/
Of course, that would be socket F, AMD;)
http://tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=554
A good thing about Tyan boards is that coreboot will run on many of
them.
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10:31 p.m.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Esben Stien <b0ef(a)esben-stien.name> wrote:
"Mark Knecht" <markknecht(a)gmail.com>
writes:
Ja, Apogee makes nice stuff. I have no idea about how it sounds or
whether it would even work with Alsa but reading the new TapeOp
tonight I ran across this device:
http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/duet.php
Cute!
- mark
D/A converters from RME since they'll
function perfectly with an
HDSP.
The best AD/DA converters on the market are from Analog Devices and
used in Apogee hardware, btw, last I checked.
11:22 p.m.
The Duet is a VERY nice device that I love myself. I run it on my MacBook
Pro. However to my knowledge there is no support for it on Linux. Makes a
great portable voiceover setup combined with Ardour on OS-X. Can't wait for
it to be supported on Linux, and if Apogee helps out Pieter in that regards
I would not have much hesitation in investing in their Symphony.
Seablade
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Esben Stien
<b0ef(a)esben-stien.name>
wrote:
"Mark Knecht"
<markknecht(a)gmail.com> writes:
Ja, Apogee makes nice stuff. I have no idea about how it sounds or
whether it would even work with Alsa but reading the new TapeOp
tonight I ran across this device:
http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/duet.php
Cute!
- mark
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D/A converters from RME since they'll
function perfectly with an
HDSP.
The best AD/DA converters on the market are from Analog Devices and
used in Apogee hardware, btw, last I checked.
3:51 p.m.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:27:35 -0700
"b m" <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Nothing mobile is needed. Just a home DAW, so PCI is
fine, and probably
optimal for latency right?
I really like the M-Audio Delta series. The cards are PCI based and
work extremely well out of the box. The A/D converters are very quiet
and go up to 24 bit/96kHz.
There's a few levels:
Delta 44 - 4 analog I/O channels
Delta 66 - 4 analog I/O channels, S/PDIF I/O
Delta 1010 - 8 analog I/O channels, S/PDIF I/O, MIDI
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4:07 p.m.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 21:51, Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:27:35 -0700
"b m" <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
And the lowest level:
Audiophile 2496 - 2 analog I/O channels, S/PDIF I/O, MIDI
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Anders Dahnielson
<anders(a)dahnielson.com>
Nothing mobile is needed. Just a home DAW, so PCI
is fine, and probably
optimal for latency right?
I really like the M-Audio Delta series. The cards are PCI based and
work extremely well out of the box. The A/D converters are very quiet
and go up to 24 bit/96kHz.
There's a few levels:
Delta 44 - 4 analog I/O channels
Delta 66 - 4 analog I/O channels, S/PDIF I/O
Delta 1010 - 8 analog I/O channels, S/PDIF I/O, MIDI
4:49 p.m.
On 25 July 2008 at 15:51, Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:27:35 -0700
"b m" <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'll second that. I like my 1010s.
I've been thinking of getting an M-Audio Fast Track Pro for a
different situation, and maybe it'll work in your case?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-Fast-Track-Pro-Mobile-USB-Aud…
I'm a bit worried about being all PCI at this point. Down
the road I can see a time when one might not be able to buy a
motherboard supporting the Delta 1010's PCI interface.
--
Kevin
Nothing mobile is needed. Just a home DAW, so PCI
is fine, and probably
optimal for latency right?
I really like the M-Audio Delta series. The cards are PCI based and
work extremely well out of the box. The A/D converters are very quiet
and go up to 24 bit/96kHz.
There's a few levels:
Delta 44 - 4 analog I/O channels
Delta 66 - 4 analog I/O channels, S/PDIF I/O
Delta 1010 - 8 analog I/O channels, S/PDIF I/O, MIDI 
26 Jul
26 Jul
6:47 a.m.
Hallo,
b m hat gesagt: // b m wrote:
I am basically recording one track at a time, solo
project style. Two
simultaneous inputs would be sufficient. Mix in Ardour. No external boards
or effects. At most, 20-25 audio and midi tracks each running a few effects
(usually just compression and reverb). 88 or 96k would be ideal.
Then you can also get some kind of ICE1712-chip based card. The
M-Audio Delta cards are very popular among Linux users. They provide
up to 10/12 channels (Delta 1010) and have a very good quality/price
ratio. Other manufacturers make similar cards.
Ciao
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25 Jul
25 Jul
5 p.m.
On 25 July 2008 at 11:25, "b m" <otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am going to build a new machine specifically for
recording and producing
professional audio. I am somewhat new to Linux (and to building computers),
but I would like to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and gradually switch over to
Ubuntu for my recording projects.
Before you settle on Ubuntu, _especially_ if music is your main
application for this machine, have a look at the various audio
optimized distributions.
Try here:
http://www.ubuntustudio.org/ -- much like your choice
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ -- well supported
http://www.mandriva.com/ -- my choice
http://www.64studio.com/ -- 64-bit option
http://www.dynebolic.org/ -- I looked at it once
http://demudi.agnula.org/
Good luck....
--
Kevin
5:22 p.m.
Kevin Cosgrove skrev:
On 25 July 2008 at 11:25, "b m"
<otherbobby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I second that Ubuntu maybe not is a very good choice for serious audio
production. I was badly hurt a little while ago claiming that I could
get my windowsXP installation to run at 1.5ms with my RME Multiface
while my newinstalled UbuntuStudio coun't :)
But after that I tried out SUSE 11.0 with Jacklab, I simply followed
this guide: http://en.opensuse.org/JackLab/3_Steps_to_JAD_for_Beginners_2
I don't look back at any other distribution, because there is a lot of
great system management tools to help you work on your distribution, and
It works well both on my Laptop with pcmcia and on my desktop computer
with PCI. And now my Multiface runs steaddy at 5.3 ms latency.
/Sv-e
I am going to build a new machine specifically
for recording and producing
professional audio. I am somewhat new to Linux (and to building computers),
but I would like to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and gradually switch over to
Ubuntu for my recording projects.
Before you settle on Ubuntu, _especially_ if music is your main
application for this machine, have a look at the various audio
optimized distributions.
Try here:
http://www.ubuntustudio.org/ -- much like your choice
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ -- well supported
http://www.mandriva.com/ -- my choice
http://www.64studio.com/ -- 64-bit option
http://www.dynebolic.org/ -- I looked at it once
http://demudi.agnula.org/
Good luck....
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