21 Aug
2003
21 Aug
'03
12:01 p.m.
Using redhat9+planetCCRMA, I run ardour with normal permissions. It's all in the
capabilites.
Taybin
-------Original Message-------
From: Mark Knecht <mknecht(a)controlnet.com>
Sent: 08/21/03 08:35 AM
To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu
Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] Help neede with ardour
I agree completely. Audacity or Rezound would be much better choices until
the system is well understood.
I found this interesting and maybe topical. Last night I built the latest
Ardour from a Gentoo ebuild. Turns out it's the only Jack program I've
found
so far that requires me to be logged in as root to connect to the Jack
server. All the others (admittedly not that many) allow me to connect as a
user.
Assuming this is not just something strange about my setup, do you really
want a new user logged on as root learning Ardour? I wouldn't...
Just a thought.
- Mark
I am trying to make my son use ardour for his
recording and mixing.
I strongly suggest you start with Audacity 1.0, then move to Audacity
1.2.0 when it comes out. It's a far better program for beginners -
I've found even people with no computer experience at all can start
using it quickly.
Cheers
Daniel 
21 Aug
21 Aug
12:48 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Help neede with ardour
Using redhat9+planetCCRMA, I run ardour with normal permissions.
It's all in the capabilites.
Taybin
Hi Taybin,
Sure, under RH9/PlanetCCRMA it's the same for me I'm sure. (I haven't
used Ardour on that box of mine as it's too slow for that sort of thing.)
That wasn't my point at all. Under Gentoo I haven't built in capabilities as
I'm waiting for the new HDSP 9652 driver to get into CVS. Then I'll be able
to rebuild Alsa without bothering Thomas.
However, I'd agree with what I think your point is if I wanted real-time
scheduling, but I didn't. I started Jack running normal scheduling as a
normal user. All my other Jack applications have no problems connecting to
the Jack server. Ardour said it couldn't connect to Jack. It was the only
app that did this so far. Maybe Ardour cannot connect without real-time
scheduling enabled? This didn't used to be the case, but possibly it is
today? I don't know.
Please understand I'm not asking you or Paul to change or fix anything. I
don't care which way Ardour works. It's completely immaterial to me. My
point was that if this father is going to turn his kid loose on his system
learning Linux and Ardour, apparently on some distributions you have to be
root to even start Ardour and that raises other risks that he might not want
to take. (rm / ?) I know you don't do things like that, but my 11 year old
kid does, so I'd never let him touch Ardour running as root on one of my
systems.
Longer term maybe more distributions with have the capabilities thing
enabled out of the box, but I've been told there are good reasons not to do
that so I wouldn't guess when it will happen.
Mark
2:33 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Help neede with ardour
I know what you meen, one of my 13yr can kill the most stable system by
just sitting at the keyboard (no kidding). But if I remeber correctly I
could use ardour as the user that starts jack from about a year ago. I did
not try it this time since I did not mess with capabilities
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Mark Knecht wrote:
root to even start Ardour and that raises other risks
that he might not want
to take. (rm / ?) I know you don't do things like that, but my 11 year old
kid does, so I'd never let him touch Ardour running as root on one of my
systems.
Mark
3:13 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Help neede with ardour
And you still can if you are on the RH/PlanetCCRMA flow. Using vanilla
Gentoo I am not able to.
I know what you meen, one of my 13yr can kill the most stable system by
just sitting at the keyboard (no kidding). But if I remeber correctly I
could use ardour as the user that starts jack from about a year
ago. I did
not try it this time since I did not mess with capabilities
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Mark Knecht wrote:
root to even start Ardour and that raises other
risks that he
might not want
to take. (rm / ?) I know you don't do things
like that, but my
11 year old
kid does, so I'd never let him touch Ardour
running as root on one of my
systems.
Mark
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