20 Dec
2006
20 Dec
'06
8:47 p.m.
Folks,
I'm trying to use JAMin to see what it can bring to a mix. There's
a problem when I start Ardour to record the JAMin mix.
Here's what I do.
I play the .wav tune (exported from Ardour where it was recorded)
using Rezound. I start JAMin, I disconnect the Rezound outputs from
alsa_pcm and connect them to JAMin's input. Then I connect JAMin's
outputs to alsa_pcm (all using qjackctl).
So I play the tune and adjust stuff in JAMin while listening to the
tune.
Now I start Ardour to record the mix. I create a new session and
add a stereo track. As soon as the stereo track is added the sound
becomes ugly and boomy. I look at qjackctl and see there's a ton of
new connections made by Ardour. I try to do a 'disconnect all' but
all the ardour connections are staying there.
Is there an easier way to record a JAMin mix than by using Ardour ?
Or, is there another way to use JAMin to modify the final mix of a
tune originally recorded in Ardour ?
Al
20 Dec
20 Dec
8:56 p.m.
lanas wrote:
Folks,
I'm trying to use JAMin to see what it can bring to a mix. There's
a problem when I start Ardour to record the JAMin mix.
Here's what I do.
I play the .wav tune (exported from Ardour where it was recorded)
using Rezound. I start JAMin, I disconnect the Rezound outputs from
alsa_pcm and connect them to JAMin's input. Then I connect JAMin's
outputs to alsa_pcm (all using qjackctl).
So I play the tune and adjust stuff in JAMin while listening to the
tune.
Now I start Ardour to record the mix. I create a new session and
add a stereo track. As soon as the stereo track is added the sound
becomes ugly and boomy. I look at qjackctl and see there's a ton of
new connections made by Ardour. I try to do a 'disconnect all' but
all the ardour connections are staying there.
this is anormal, i am using ardour and jamin just that way you are
describing but i can´t report that behavior.
Is there an easier way to record a JAMin mix than by
using Ardour ?
sure, you can use any other recording tool like jack_capture,
timemachine, qarecord ...
i think there are lot of them.
Or, is there another way to use JAMin to modify the
final mix of a
tune originally recorded in Ardour ?
i think you do have to "re-record".
cheers,
doc
Al
9:22 p.m.
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:48:49 -0500
lanas <lanas(a)securenet.net> wrote:
I play the .wav tune (exported from Ardour where it
was recorded)
using Rezound. I start JAMin, I disconnect the Rezound outputs from
alsa_pcm and connect them to JAMin's input. Then I connect JAMin's
outputs to alsa_pcm (all using qjackctl).
That is really the long way around!
Is there an easier way to record a JAMin mix than by
using Ardour ?
I usually add an insert to the master channel in Ardour and connect it
to JAMin. Then when it sounds the way I want, I simply do an export.
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21 Dec
21 Dec
8:31 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Just JAMin
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:22:46 -0500
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> écrivait:
> Is there an easier way to record a JAMin mix
than by using
> Ardour ?
I usually add an insert to the master channel in
Ardour and connect it
to JAMin. Then when it sounds the way I want, I simply do an export.
That sounds (pardon the pun) good. I gave it a try but got terrible
results. Here's how I tried it (Ardour is installed in French, so I
translate the terms, please adjust if necesscelery ! ;-)
In the mixer window I clicked on 'output' and then 'edit' so that I
get the 'output master' dialog box in which we see options such as 'add
an output', 'remove an output', 'disconnect the whole thing'. In the
tabs there's one for JAMin since it's already up and running. I click
on the JAMin tab, and add something and then the sound goes way out of
control. So on so forth.
Better yet, is there a web page somewhere out there that explicitly
describes the steps to do this kind of audio manipulations using these
very precise tools ?
If you know, please lettuce know ! ;-)
Cheers,
Al
8:53 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Just JAMin
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:16:38 -0500
lanas <lanas(a)securenet.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:22:46 -0500
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> écrivait:
Close, but not quite.
First, it's important to make sure that you start jamin with the -p option.
By default, it starts with its ports mapped by default to the alsa_pcm
I/O ports (I think). The -p argument starts it with all ports unconnected.
To add the insert, right-click in the big black area over the master fader.
Choose New Insert, then click on the new insert (insert 1) and right-click
to choose edit.
Conect outputs 1&2 on the left to the Jamin in_L and in_R ports, and do the
same with the inputs on the right.
Jamin is now in the signal path just before the master fader. Have at it!
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Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
> Is there an easier way to record a JAMin
mix than by using
> Ardour ?
I usually add an insert to the master channel in
Ardour and connect it
to JAMin. Then when it sounds the way I want, I simply do an export.
In the mixer window I clicked on 'output' and then 'edit' so that I
get the 'output master' dialog box in which we see options such as 'add
an output', 'remove an output', 'disconnect the whole thing'.
9:16 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Just JAMin
This is the way I do it.
Start JACK using qjackctl (or whatever way you want to do it). Start
your Ardour session. Add a stereo track to the session (call it JAMin
master). Disconnect the outputs from the JAMin master track from
everything. Start JAMin. In the JAMin Ports menu select inputs and
connect Ardour master out 1 and 2 to JAMin inputs. Make sure that the
Ardour master outs are only connected to the JAMin inputs. Make sure
that all other track outputs (other than JAMin master) are connected to
Ardour master and not to any alsa playback ports. In the JAMin Ports
menu connect JAMin outputs to Ardour->JAMIN master inputs and also alsa
playback 1 and 2. At this point DO NOT record enable the JAMin master
track in Ardour. Press play in Ardour and run through the song, setting
your JAMin EQ/compression/limiter settings and any scenes that you might
want for different sections of the song (verse, chorus, bridge, etc).
Run through it a few times until you get it where you want it. Now you
can record enable the JAMin master track in Ardour and then press
play/record. Switch scenes as needed. I would suggest setting the
JAMin limiter to -0.1 dB instead of 0.0 due to possible overs when
converting to OGG at a later time. When you have finished recording the
JAMin master track, Export the session and select just the JAMin master
outs.
Jan
On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 19:16 -0500, lanas wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:22:46 -0500
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> écrivait:
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arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chardonnay in one hand, chocolate in the other, body
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming 'WOO HOO, what a ride'"
> Is there an easier way to record a JAMin
mix than by using
> Ardour ?
I usually add an insert to the master channel in
Ardour and connect it
to JAMin. Then when it sounds the way I want, I simply do an export.
That sounds (pardon the pun) good. I gave it a try but got terrible
results. Here's how I tried it (Ardour is installed in French, so I
translate the terms, please adjust if necesscelery ! ;-)
In the mixer window I clicked on 'output' and then 'edit' so that I
get the 'output master' dialog box in which we see options such as 'add
an output', 'remove an output', 'disconnect the whole thing'. In
the
tabs there's one for JAMin since it's already up and running. I click
on the JAMin tab, and add something and then the sound goes way out of
control. So on so forth.
Better yet, is there a web page somewhere out there that explicitly
describes the steps to do this kind of audio manipulations using these
very precise tools ?
If you know, please lettuce know ! ;-)
Cheers,
Al
22 Dec
22 Dec
3:29 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Synchronize Tutka and Ardour
Hi!
I want to record something I tracked with Tutka, but I'm unable to synchronize
it with Ardour! With "Sync to JACK" Tutka crashes, while I don't know how to
tweak the various midi options in order to get it MIDI-synced with Ardour,
both with Ardour as a master or as a slave. Besides I have to admit that I
don't know really well the subject of midi sync:)
Any suggestion is welcomed:)
Byez!
Carotinho
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23 Dec
23 Dec
8:29 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Synchronize Tutka and Ardour
Alle 20:29, venerdì 22 dicembre 2006, Carotinho ha scritto:
Hi!
I want to record something I tracked with Tutka, but I'm unable to
synchronize it with Ardour! With "Sync to JACK" Tutka crashes, while I
don't know how to tweak the various midi options in order to get it
MIDI-synced with Ardour, both with Ardour as a master or as a slave.
Besides I have to admit that I don't know really well the subject of midi
sync:)
Well, trying to midi-sync with Ardour proved to be impossible, while I've
recorded my work to Rosegarden using Midi-sync and this worked flawlessly.
Maybe related to some buggy midi implementation in Ardour.
Byez!
Carotinho
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20 Dec
20 Dec
9:59 p.m.
On 12/20/06, lanas <lanas(a)securenet.net> wrote:
Is there an easier way to record a JAMin mix than by
using Ardour ?
Or, is there another way to use JAMin to modify the final mix of a
tune originally recorded in Ardour ?
I generally connect the outputs of the ardour mix to jamin, then
connect the jamin outputs to another a new "mastered" stereo track
as well as the normal playback channels. Then, I play around with the
mastering controls until I like the sound. Next, rewind the session
and record-enable the "mastered" output track to record the jamin
results. Finally, export the "mastered" output with the appropriate
sample rate, dithering as needed.
--
joq
10:06 p.m.
On 12/20/06, lanas <lanas(a)securenet.net> wrote:
Folks,
I'm trying to use JAMin to see what it can bring to a mix. There's
a problem when I start Ardour to record the JAMin mix.
Here's what I do.
I play the .wav tune (exported from Ardour where it was recorded)
using Rezound. I start JAMin, I disconnect the Rezound outputs from
alsa_pcm and connect them to JAMin's input. Then I connect JAMin's
outputs to alsa_pcm (all using qjackctl).
So I play the tune and adjust stuff in JAMin while listening to the
tune.
Now I start Ardour to record the mix. I create a new session and
add a stereo track. As soon as the stereo track is added the sound
becomes ugly and boomy.
Hi,
I suspect from your description that you are hearing a bad phasing
problem. It sounds like when you connected the output of Jamin to the
input of Ardour that you did not disconnect Jamin from alsa_pcm so you
are now hearing the output of Jamin twice with the second delayed
through Jack and Ardour.
Make sure that you have a single audio path through the system and
you should be fine.
Hope this helps a little,
Mark
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