12 May
2018
12 May
'18
10:27 p.m.
Today I finally took delivery of a new computer for my music, to take the place
of the old one that was showing real signs of stress. The new one is custom
built by Scan (UK). It is in a 4U rackmount case and has an AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
processor, on an ASUS motherboard and with a Radeon R5230 fanless graphics card.
Audio I/O is via an M-Audio Mtrack 8, and MIDI via a Prodipe 4i/4o.
That graphics card was a significant problem, as it was difficult to get hold of
one, but it was worth the hassle.
The machine arrived quite early this morning, extremely well packaged. They had
even put bubble wrap inside for additional shock protection - with a very clear
warning on the top! Looking inside it has been very neatly assembled, no random
loose wires. I added a CDROM drive I already had, and a second SSD, both of
these robbed from the older machine. The SSD has all my working project files
on it.
I installed devuan Linix 2.0.0 rc without any issues at all - no more
inexplicable SystemD failures. I then built up the system with all my favourite
programs. This was the most time consuming part of the install.
And the performance? Stunning! The machine is totally silent. There wasn't so
much as a whisper when maxing out all 8 cores compiling the latest Rosegarden
image! One of my most complex projects had to run at 5.33mS Latency on the old
machine, and I didn't dare touch anything while it was going. On the new one I
can run it at 1.33mS, and shuffle various windows around without a single Xrun.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
12 May
12 May
10:54 p.m.
It’s amazing how much Linux makes a computer fly....
Put Debian on my main PC today after running win10 for a few too many
months, took all of ten minutes and a couple of hours to set it up.!
Ciao
On Sat, 12 May 2018 at 21:27, Will Godfrey <willgodfrey(a)musically.me.uk>
wrote:
Today I finally took delivery of a new computer for my
music, to take the
place
of the old one that was showing real signs of stress. The new one is custom
built by Scan (UK). It is in a 4U rackmount case and has an AMD Ryzen 5
1500X
processor, on an ASUS motherboard and with a Radeon R5230 fanless graphics
card.
Audio I/O is via an M-Audio Mtrack 8, and MIDI via a Prodipe 4i/4o.
That graphics card was a significant problem, as it was difficult to get
hold of
one, but it was worth the hassle.
The machine arrived quite early this morning, extremely well packaged.
They had
even put bubble wrap inside for additional shock protection - with a very
clear
warning on the top! Looking inside it has been very neatly assembled, no
random
loose wires. I added a CDROM drive I already had, and a second SSD, both of
these robbed from the older machine. The SSD has all my working project
files
on it.
I installed devuan Linix 2.0.0 rc without any issues at all - no more
inexplicable SystemD failures. I then built up the system with all my
favourite
programs. This was the most time consuming part of the install.
And the performance? Stunning! The machine is totally silent. There wasn't
so
much as a whisper when maxing out all 8 cores compiling the latest
Rosegarden
image! One of my most complex projects had to run at 5.33mS Latency on the
old
machine, and I didn't dare touch anything while it was going. On the new
one I
can run it at 1.33mS, and shuffle various windows around without a single
Xrun.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
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15 May
15 May
12:57 a.m.
Wow. Sounds like a gorgeous chunk of hardware. How long have you been
using Devuan, how does it compare in compatibility and performance?
J.E.B.
On 05/12/2018 03:27 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
Today I finally took delivery of a new computer for my
music, to take the place
of the old one that was showing real signs of stress. The new one is custom
built by Scan (UK). It is in a 4U rackmount case and has an AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
processor, on an ASUS motherboard and with a Radeon R5230 fanless graphics card.
Audio I/O is via an M-Audio Mtrack 8, and MIDI via a Prodipe 4i/4o.
That graphics card was a significant problem, as it was difficult to get hold of
one, but it was worth the hassle.
The machine arrived quite early this morning, extremely well packaged. They had
even put bubble wrap inside for additional shock protection - with a very clear
warning on the top! Looking inside it has been very neatly assembled, no random
loose wires. I added a CDROM drive I already had, and a second SSD, both of
these robbed from the older machine. The SSD has all my working project files
on it.
I installed devuan Linix 2.0.0 rc without any issues at all - no more
inexplicable SystemD failures. I then built up the system with all my favourite
programs. This was the most time consuming part of the install.
And the performance? Stunning! The machine is totally silent. There wasn't so
much as a whisper when maxing out all 8 cores compiling the latest Rosegarden
image! One of my most complex projects had to run at 5.33mS Latency on the old
machine, and I didn't dare touch anything while it was going. On the new one I
can run it at 1.33mS, and shuffle various windows around without a single Xrun.
16 May
16 May
8:38 a.m.
On Mon, 14 May 2018 17:57:44 -0500
"Jonathan E. Brickman" <jeb(a)ponderworthy.com> wrote:
Wow. Sounds like a gorgeous chunk of hardware. How
long have you been
using Devuan, how does it compare in compatibility and performance?
J.E.B.
This is the first time I've installed devuan. Release 2 is based on debian
stretch, so not cutting edge. However it has rt kernel 4.9 and everything else
seems pretty up-to-date. The only slight disappointment is it's slower on
startup, but I may let be able to tweak that.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
5:09 p.m.
On Wed, 16 May 2018, Will Godfrey wrote:
This is the first time I've installed devuan.
Release 2 is based on debian
stretch, so not cutting edge. However it has rt kernel 4.9 and everything else
seems pretty up-to-date. The only slight disappointment is it's slower on
startup, but I may let be able to tweak that.
Wow, you mean you shut your computer down?
I didn't realize that was a thing. ;)
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
5:59 p.m.
On Wed, 16 May 2018 08:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
Len Ovens <len(a)ovenwerks.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2018, Will Godfrey wrote:
Oh har-de-har.
Actually It's worse than that. The BIG SWITCH (tm) powers up an arduino
controlled sequential switcher. The keyboards are switched on first,then the
computer(configured to run when power appears). Once the switcher sees the 5V
from a USB socket it steps through and switches on all the other kit (amplifier
last). Closing down the computer means the loss of 5V tells the arduino to
switch all the gear off including the supply to the computer (amplifer first
this time). I can re-start by pressing a button on the switcher. So the
only standby power is a 10W switchmode PSU :)
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
This is the first time I've installed devuan.
Release 2 is based on debian
stretch, so not cutting edge. However it has rt kernel 4.9 and everything else
seems pretty up-to-date. The only slight disappointment is it's slower on
startup, but I may let be able to tweak that.
Wow, you mean you shut your computer down?
I didn't realize that was a thing. ;) 
6:23 p.m.
Will Godfrey <willgodfrey(a)musically.me.uk> writes:
Actually It's worse than that. The BIG SWITCH (tm)
powers up an arduino
controlled sequential switcher. The keyboards are switched on first,then the
computer(configured to run when power appears). Once the switcher sees the 5V
from a USB socket it steps through and switches on all the other kit (amplifier
last). Closing down the computer means the loss of 5V tells the arduino to
switch all the gear off including the supply to the computer (amplifer first
this time). I can re-start by pressing a button on the switcher. So the
only standby power is a 10W switchmode PSU :)
Oh my. One of my complaints I've had with this modern era of DAW
recording, and also with the fact that I'm now actually able to afford
gear better than when I was younger (hence I have more of it), is that
whereas in the old days I used to be able to just hack together
something in an Ensoniq on-board sequencer and a couple of drum
machines, and send it to 4-track tape, now I'm always griping that
making a song takes prior planning and lots of equipment setup and
software configuration. Songwriting feels like planning a Space Shuttle
launch. You have a big mission book, and an initialization procedure,
and there needs to be a countdown with contingencies in case of
launchpad failure. Sometimes you forget that you were writing music,
and not trying to land on Mars.
But damn, man...you take the cake. :)
--
- Brent Busby + ===============================================
+ "The introduction of a new kind of music must
-- Studio -- + be shunned as imperiling the whole state, for
-- Amadeus/ -- + styles of music are never disturbed without
-- Keycorner -- + without affecting the most important political
-- Recording -- + institutions." --Plato, "Republic"
----------------+ ===============================================
10:51 p.m.
On Wed, 16 May 2018, Will Godfrey wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2018 08:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
Len Ovens <len(a)ovenwerks.net> wrote:
I guess I often have a number of windows open (most often a number of
terminals) and I don't want to go through the fun of opening, cd to and
loose the uparrow functionallity. So I tend to leave my system running
24/7
On Wed, 16 May 2018, Will Godfrey wrote:
Oh har-de-har. This is the first time I've installed devuan.
Release 2 is based on debian
stretch, so not cutting edge. However it has rt kernel 4.9 and everything else
seems pretty up-to-date. The only slight disappointment is it's slower on
startup, but I may let be able to tweak that.
Wow, you mean you shut your computer down?
I didn't realize that was a thing. ;) Actually It's worse than that. The BIG SWITCH (tm)
powers up an arduino
controlled sequential switcher. The keyboards are switched on first,then the
computer(configured to run when power appears). Once the switcher sees the 5V
from a USB socket it steps through and switches on all the other kit (amplifier
last). Closing down the computer means the loss of 5V tells the arduino to
switch all the gear off including the supply to the computer (amplifer first
this time). I can re-start by pressing a button on the switcher. So the
only standby power is a 10W switchmode PSU :)
I have just started playing with arduinos and PIs, lots of fun. But my
external equipment is just mixer/amp right now... not much of a keyboard
player. That sounds like a good setup though.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
19 May
19 May
10:57 p.m.
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 07:38:30AM +0100, Will Godfrey wrote:
This is the first time I've installed devuan.
Release 2 is based on debian
stretch, so not cutting edge. However it has rt kernel 4.9 and everything else
seems pretty up-to-date. The only slight disappointment is it's slower on
startup, but I may let be able to tweak that.
I installed devuan on a Lenovo X240 a few days ago (and I'm using it to
write this). So far it's working very well. Happy to get rid of systemd,
which may have been a good idea at the start but by now has become a
uncontrolable mess (and therefore a security risk). Startup doesn't seem
to be slower. I'll install another laptop next week, and if all goes
well devuan makes a very good chance of replacing archlinux as my
preferred distro.
See you at the LAC !
--
FA
20 May
20 May
1:01 p.m.
On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:57:51 +0200
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
I installed devuan on a Lenovo X240 a few days ago
(and I'm using it
to write this). So far it's working very well. Happy to get rid of
systemd, which may have been a good idea at the start but by now has
become a uncontrolable mess (and therefore a security risk). Startup
doesn't seem to be slower. I'll install another laptop next week, and
if all goes well devuan makes a very good chance of replacing
archlinux as my preferred distro.
Heh, I've been using and observing systemd since Archlinux adopted it.
Have found it mildly amusing that the touted fast boot time has (too)
often more than been offset by having to wait minutes for the system
to shutdown/reboot...:)
--
Joakim
3:40 p.m.
On Sun, 20 May 2018 13:01:10 +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:57:51 +0200 Fons Adriaensen
wrote:
I'm pissed off by Arch's systemd-nspawn, since a short while ago it
stopped working when using it without the "boot" option, regarding a
broken PATH variable. Unfortunately using the syslinux bootloader
requires to maintain another install by using systemd-nspawn without
the "boot" option, since /boot of the install I want to maintain is
"bind" to a an Arch Linux partition and I want to use a script working
around this issue. It worked in the past, but stopped working a while
ago. Users can't rely on Arch's systemd-nspawn, if things arbitrarily
change.
[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# systemd-nspawn -qD /mnt/moonstudio ldconfig
execv(ldconfig) failed: No such file or directory
[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# ls -hAl /mnt/moonstudio/sbin/ldconfig
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 387 Jan 15 03:52 /mnt/moonstudio/sbin/ldconfig
--
pacman -Q linux{,-rt{-cornflower,,-pussytoes,-securityink}}|cut -d\ -f2
4.16.9-1
4.16.8_rt3-1
4.16.7_rt1-1
4.14.34_rt27-1
4.14.29_rt25-1
I installed devuan on a Lenovo X240 a few days
ago (and I'm using it
to write this). So far it's working very well. Happy to get rid of
systemd, which may have been a good idea at the start but by now has
become a uncontrolable mess (and therefore a security risk). Startup
doesn't seem to be slower. I'll install another laptop next week, and
if all goes well devuan makes a very good chance of replacing
archlinux as my preferred distro.
Heh, I've been using and observing systemd since Archlinux adopted it.
Have found it mildly amusing that the touted fast boot time has (too)
often more than been offset by having to wait minutes for the system
to shutdown/reboot...:)
8:17 p.m.
On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:57:51 +0200
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
I installed devuan on a Lenovo X240 a few days ago (and
I'm using it to
write this). So far it's working very well. Happy to get rid of systemd,
which may have been a good idea at the start but by now has become a
uncontrolable mess (and therefore a security risk). Startup doesn't seem
to be slower. I'll install another laptop next week, and if all goes
well devuan makes a very good chance of replacing archlinux as my
preferred distro.
It was the network startup that was causing the delay -sorted now.
See you at the LAC !
:)
Looking at the provisional schedule, I'm wondering when I'll be able to fit in
essential feeding and watering :o
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
21 May
21 May
12:31 a.m.
On May 20, 2018 8:17:40 AM HST, Will Godfrey <willgodfrey(a)musically.me.uk> wrote:
Especially beering! ;)
Closest I get to LAC is having a Linux-using friend who is currently in Germany attending
an Early Music Festival somewhere along the Elbe. I tease him that he's going to come
back 800-1000 years ago.
I'll have to bombard him with brand new music from LAC and the list when he gets back.
Although he liked Jeanette's Bach recordings earlier.
--
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gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
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On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:57:51 +0200
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
FWIW, I've seen to startup speed difference on my systems between Debian (init) and
Debian (systemd).
But I can't guarantee that. When Debian first switched to systemd, I had problems with
it trying to mount my CIFS shares before it had set up the network connection. And during
updates, it still announces that start/stop is no longer supported for a couple of running
services. How long ago did Debian Testing switch to systemd?
I think I'll put Devuan on one of my desktop partitions and see how it goes. Init I
understood much better than the complexities of systemd!
I installed devuan on a Lenovo X240 a few days ago
(and I'm using it
to
write this). So far it's working very well.
Happy to get rid of
systemd,
which may have been a good idea at the start but
by now has become a
uncontrolable mess (and therefore a security risk). Startup doesn't
seem
to be slower. I'll install another laptop next
week, and if all goes
well devuan makes a very good chance of replacing archlinux as my
preferred distro.
It was the network startup that was causing the delay -sorted now. See you at the
LAC !
:)
Looking at the provisional schedule, I'm wondering when I'll be able
to fit in essential feeding and watering :o
12:36 a.m.
On May 20, 2018 12:31:33 PM HST, "David W. Jones" <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
On May 20, 2018 8:17:40 AM HST, Will Godfrey
<willgodfrey(a)musically.me.uk> wrote:
goes
FWIW, I've seen to
Sorry, that's supposed to be NO
On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:57:51 +0200
Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
>I installed devuan on a Lenovo X240 a few days ago (and I'm using
it
to
a
write this). So far it's working very well.
Happy to get rid of
systemd,
>which may have been a good idea at the start but by now has become
uncontrolable mess (and therefore a security risk). Startup doesn't
seem
>to be slower. I'll install another laptop next week, and if all well
devuan makes a very good chance of replacing archlinux as my
preferred distro.
It was the network startup that was causing the delay -sorted now. startup speed difference on my systems between
Debian (init) and Debian (systemd).
But I can't guarantee that. When Debian first switched to systemd, I
had problems with it trying to mount my CIFS shares before it had set
up the network connection. And during updates, it still announces that
start/stop is no longer supported for a couple of running services.
How long ago did Debian Testing switch to systemd?
I think I'll put Devuan on one of my desktop partitions and see how it
goes. Init I understood much better than the complexities of systemd!
Especially beering! ;)
Closest I get to LAC is having a Linux-using friend who is currently
in Germany attending an Early Music Festival somewhere along the Elbe.
I tease him that he's going to come back 800-1000 years ago.
I'll have to bombard him with brand new music from LAC and the list
when he gets back. Although he liked Jeanette's Bach recordings
earlier.
--
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gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
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http://dancingtreefrog.com
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See you at
the LAC !
:)
Looking at the provisional schedule, I'm wondering when I'll be able
to fit in essential feeding and watering :o 
15 May
15 May
2:26 p.m.
Thank you for the report. Seems like a really sweet system you got. I'm
going to upgrade my own system during this year. It would be really
helpful if you could post the output from lshw here. A "lshw -short
-numeric -sanitize" would be great.
Cheers,
--
/bengan
16 May
16 May
8:40 a.m.
On Tue, 15 May 2018 14:26:08 +0200
Bengt Gördén <bengan(a)bag.org> wrote:
Thank you for the report. Seems like a really sweet
system you got. I'm
going to upgrade my own system during this year. It would be really
helpful if you could post the output from lshw here. A "lshw -short
-numeric -sanitize" would be great.
Cheers,
Unfortunately that command doesn't seem to be recognised. Is it part of some
package extension?
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
10:07 a.m.
Den 2018-05-16 kl. 08:40, skrev Will Godfrey:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 14:26:08 +0200
Bengt Gördén <bengan(a)bag.org> wrote:
Sorry. I jumped to conclusion. I thought it was part of devuan as it is
of debian. My fault.
It is very handy though. I use it quite often at our servers and routers
(gentoo, debian, ubuntu and opensuse)
I can see it at popcon.devuan.org but that might be installed through
source or other repo.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lshw+site%3Adevuan.org
Cheers,
--
/bengan
Thank you for the report. Seems like a really
sweet system you got. I'm
going to upgrade my own system during this year. It would be really
helpful if you could post the output from lshw here. A "lshw -short
-numeric -sanitize" would be great.
Cheers,
Unfortunately that command doesn't seem to be recognised. Is it part of some
package extension?
5:45 p.m.
On Wed, 16 May 2018 10:07:04 +0200
Bengt Gördén <bengan(a)bag.org> wrote:
Den 2018-05-16 kl. 08:40, skrev Will Godfrey:
OK, it'se in the repository, it's just that devuan don't install a lot of
stuff
by default. So... result below.
One oddity is that the graphics card is a 5450 but it's reporting as a 7450.
I'm wondering if that's the firmware version. I do know that Scan (unlike some
vendors) applies all available firmware updates to their kit, then do a 24Hr
burn-in.
computer
description: Desktop Computer
product: System Product Name (SKU)
vendor: System manufacturer
version: System Version
serial: [REMOVED]
width: 64 bits
capabilities: smbios-3.1 dmi-3.1 smp vsyscall32
configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop family=To be filled by O.E.M.
sku=SKU uuid=[REMOVED] *-core
description: Motherboard
product: PRIME X370-PRO
vendor: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
physical id: 0
version: Rev X.0x
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: Default string
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
physical id: 0
version: 4011
date: 04/19/2018
size: 64KiB
capacity: 15MiB
capabilities: pci apm upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom
edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard
int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification uefi *-memory
description: System Memory physical id: 2c
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 8GiB
*-bank:0
description: [empty]
product: Unknown
vendor: Unknown
physical id: 0
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: DIMM_A1
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DDR4 Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) 2666
MHz (0.4 ns) product: CMK8GX4M2A2666C16
vendor: Unknown
physical id: 1
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: DIMM_A2
size: 4GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 2666MHz (0.4ns)
*-bank:2
description: [empty]
product: Unknown
vendor: Unknown
physical id: 2
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: DIMM_B1
*-bank:3
description: DIMM DDR4 Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) 2666
MHz (0.4 ns) product: CMK8GX4M2A2666C16
vendor: Unknown
physical id: 3
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: DIMM_B2
size: 4GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 2666MHz (0.4ns)
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 2e
slot: L1 - Cache
size: 384KiB
capacity: 384KiB
clock: 1GHz (1.0ns)
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal write-back unified
configuration: level=1
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 2f
slot: L2 - Cache
size: 2MiB
capacity: 2MiB
clock: 1GHz (1.0ns)
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal write-back unified
configuration: level=2
*-cache:2
description: L3 cache
physical id: 30
slot: L3 - Cache
size: 16MiB
capacity: 16MiB
clock: 1GHz (1.0ns)
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal write-back unified
configuration: level=3
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X Quad-Core Processor
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 31
bus info: cpu@0
version: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X Quad-Core Processor
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: AM4
size: 3500MHz
capacity: 3900MHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 100MHz
capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce
cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall
nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc
extd_apicid aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1
sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic
cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit wdt tce topoext
perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_l2 mwaitx hw_pstate vmmcall fsgsbase bmi1
avx2 smep bmi2 rdseed adx smap clflushopt sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves
clzero irperf ibpb arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean
flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold avic overflow_recov succor
smca cpufreq configuration: cores=4 enabledcores=4 threads=8 *-pci:0
description: Host bridge product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
[1022:1450] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022] physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-generic
UNCLAIMED description: IOMMU product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
[1022:1451] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022] physical id: 0.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: msi ht cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1453]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 1.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:28 ioport:e000(size=4096) memory:fe500000-fe7fffff
*-usb
description: USB controller
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B9]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: 02
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: msi pm pciexpress xhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:40 memory:fe7a0000-fe7a7fff
*-storage
description: SATA controller
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B5]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0.1
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: storage msi pm pciexpress ahci_1.0 bus_master
cap_list rom configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
resources: irq:42 memory:fe780000-fe79ffff
memory:fe700000-fe77ffff *-pci
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B0]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0.2
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:32 ioport:e000(size=4096)
memory:fe500000-fe6fffff *-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B4]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:33
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B4]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:02:02.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:34
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B4]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 3
bus info: pci@0000:02:03.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:36
*-pci:3
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B4]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:02:04.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:37 memory:fe600000-fe6fffff
*-usb
description: USB controller
product: ASMedia Technology Inc. [1B21:1343]
vendor: ASMedia Technology Inc. [1B21]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0
version: 00
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: msi pm pciexpress xhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:45 memory:fe600000-fe607fff
*-pci:4
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B4]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 6
bus info: pci@0000:02:06.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:38 ioport:e000(size=4096)
memory:fe500000-fe5fffff *-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: I211 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1539]
vendor: Intel Corporation [8086]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 03
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 100Mbit/s
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi msix pciexpress bus_master cap_list
ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=igb
driverversion=5.4.0-k duplex=full firmware=0. 6-1 ip=[REMOVED] latency=0
link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:24
memory:fe500000-fe51ffff ioport:e000(size=32) memory:fe520000-fe523fff *-pci:5
description: PCI bridge product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:43B4]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022] physical id: 7
bus info: pci@0000:02:07.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:39
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1453]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 3.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:29 ioport:d000(size=4096) memory:fe900000-fe9fffff
ioport:e0000000(size=268435456) *-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] [1002:677B]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] [1002]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:09:00.0
version: 00
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master
cap_list rom configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
resources: irq:57 memory:e0000000-efffffff
memory:fe920000-fe93ffff ioport:d000(size=256) memory:c0000-dffff *-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: Caicos HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6450 / 7450/8450/8490
OEM / R5 230/235/235X OEM] [1002:AA98] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] [1002] physical id: 0.1
bus info: pci@0000:09:00.1
version: 00
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
resources: irq:59 memory:fe940000-fe943fff
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1454]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 7.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:07.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:30 memory:fe200000-fe4fffff
*-generic:0 UNCLAIMED
description: Non-Essential Instrumentation
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:145A]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:0a:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-generic:1
description: Encryption controller
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1456]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0.2
bus info: pci@0000:0a:00.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi msix bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ccp latency=0
resources: irq:53 memory:fe300000-fe3fffff
memory:fe400000-fe401fff *-usb
description: USB controller
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:145C]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0.3
bus info: pci@0000:0a:00.3
version: 00
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi xhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:47 memory:fe200000-fe2fffff
*-pci:3
description: PCI bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1454]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 8.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:08.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:31 memory:fe800000-fe8fffff
*-generic UNCLAIMED
description: Non-Essential Instrumentation
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1455]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:0b:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-storage
description: SATA controller
product: FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7901]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 0.2
bus info: pci@0000:0b:00.2
version: 51
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: storage pm pciexpress msi ahci_1.0 bus_master
cap_list configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
resources: irq:44 memory:fe800000-fe800fff
*-serial
description: SMBus
product: FCH SMBus Controller [1022:790B]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 14
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
version: 59
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: driver=piix4_smbus latency=0
resources: irq:0
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: FCH LPC Bridge [1022:790E]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
version: 51
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-pci:1
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1452]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 101
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:2
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1452]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 102
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:3
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1452]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 103
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:4
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1452]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 104
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:5
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1452]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 105
bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:6
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1452]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 106
bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:7
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1460]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 107
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:8
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1461]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 108
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:9
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1462]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 109
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:10
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1463]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 10a
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:11
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1464]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 10b
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.4
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:12
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1465]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 10c
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.5
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:13
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1466]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 10d
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.6
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:14
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022:1467]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] [1022]
physical id: 10e
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.7
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-scsi:0
physical id: 1
logical name: scsi0
capabilities: emulated
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: Samsung SSD 850
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: 2B6Q
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 232GiB (250GB)
capabilities: gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt
configuration: ansiversion=5
guid=ddeebee1-3daa-40b7-af13-412d30503cca logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512
*-volume:0 UNCLAIMED description: Windows FAT volume
vendor: mkfs.fat
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
version: FAT32
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 510MiB
capacity: 511MiB
capabilities: boot fat initialized
configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat
*-volume:1
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,2
logical name: /dev/sda2
logical name: /
version: 1.0
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 27GiB
capabilities: journaled extended_attributes large_files
huge_files dir_nlink recover 64bit extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration:
created=2018-05-12 12:07:01 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/
modified=2018-05-16 15:47:34 mount.fstype=ext4
mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-16
15:47:37 state=mounted *-volume:2 description: Linux swap volume vendor: Linux
physical id: 3 bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,3
logical name: /dev/sda3
version: 1
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 8121MiB
capacity: 8122MiB
capabilities: nofs swap initialized
configuration: filesystem=swap pagesize=4095
*-volume:3
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 4
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,4
logical name: /dev/sda4
logical name: /home
version: 1.0
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 196GiB
capabilities: journaled extended_attributes large_files
huge_files dir_nlink recover 64bit extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration:
created=2018-05-12 12:07:02 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/home
modified=2018-05-16 15:47:38 mount.fstype=ext4
mount.options=rw,relatime,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-16 15:47:38
state=mounted *-scsi:1 physical id: 2 logical name: scsi2 capabilities: emulated
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
product: CDDVDW SH-224BB
vendor: TSSTcorp
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/cdrw
logical name: /dev/dvd
logical name: /dev/dvdrw
logical name: /dev/sr0
version: SB00
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
*-scsi:2
physical id: 3
logical name: scsi4
capabilities: emulated
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: INTEL SSDSC2CT18
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sdc
version: 300i
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 167GiB (180GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512
signature=629006fd *-volume
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sdc1
logical name: /data
version: 1.0
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 167GiB
capacity: 167GiB
capabilities: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files
huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration:
created=2012-11-13 20:16:37 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/data
modified=2018-05-16 15:47:38 mount.fstype=ext4
mount.options=rw,relatime,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-16 15:47:38 state=mounted
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
On Tue, 15 May 2018 14:26:08 +0200
Bengt Gördén <bengan(a)bag.org> wrote:
Sorry. I jumped to conclusion. I thought it was part of devuan as it is
of debian. My fault.
It is very handy though. I use it quite often at our servers and routers
(gentoo, debian, ubuntu and opensuse) Thank you for the report. Seems like a really
sweet system you got. I'm
going to upgrade my own system during this year. It would be really
helpful if you could post the output from lshw here. A "lshw -short
-numeric -sanitize" would be great.
Cheers,
Unfortunately that command doesn't seem to be recognised. Is it part of
some
package extension? 
6:21 p.m.
On Wed, May 16, 2018 10:45 am, Will Godfrey wrote:
One oddity is that the graphics card is a 5450 but
it's reporting as a
7450.
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] [1002:677B]
description: Audio device
product: Caicos HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6450 /
7450/8450/8490
OEM / R5 230/235/235X OEM] [1002:AA98] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices,
Inc.
[AMD/ATI] [1002] physical id: 0.1
That device ID is not a 5450. Maybe they did not have HD5450 cards easily
available since they are replaced by newer devices, so they just gave you
the equivalent entry level card from the current devices.
--
Chris Caudle
10:28 p.m.
On Wed, 16 May 2018 11:21:30 -0500
"Chris Caudle" <chris(a)chriscaudle.org> wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2018 10:45 am, Will Godfrey wrote:
I didn't think of that - must be getting old^H^H^H middle-aged :)
They had a lot of trouble getting the card. On the original spec I requested
fanless and known linux compatible, with performance less important (I don't do
any video work).
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
One oddity is that the graphics card is a 5450
but it's reporting as a
7450.
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] [1002:677B]
description: Audio device
product: Caicos HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6450 /
7450/8450/8490
OEM / R5 230/235/235X OEM] [1002:AA98] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices,
Inc.
[AMD/ATI] [1002] physical id: 0.1
That device ID is not a 5450. Maybe they did not have HD5450 cards easily
available since they are replaced by newer devices, so they just gave you
the equivalent entry level card from the current devices.
17 May
17 May
8:03 a.m.
Den 2018-05-16 kl. 17:45, skrev Will Godfrey:
OK, it'se in the repository, it's just that
devuan don't install a lot of stuff
by default. So... result below.
Many thanks. It will give me a very good starting point. I will probably
copy a lot of it.
One oddity is that the graphics card is a 5450 but
it's reporting as a 7450.
I'm wondering if that's the firmware version. I do know that Scan (unlike some
vendors) applies all available firmware updates to their kit, then do a 24Hr
burn-in.
It sounds like Chris Caudle says.
Me and two colleague did research for 10Gb/s routing in PC-hardware some
15 years back. We did see a similar thing in some Intel cards. But then
it was new chip in old card model.
Cheers,
--
/bengan
16 May
16 May
8:18 a.m.
On 05/12/2018 10:27 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
Today I finally took delivery of a new computer for my
music, to take the place
of the old one that was showing real signs of stress. The new one is custom
built by Scan (UK). It is in a 4U rackmount case and has an AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
processor, on an ASUS motherboard and with a Radeon R5230 fanless graphics card.
Audio I/O is via an M-Audio Mtrack 8, and MIDI via a Prodipe 4i/4o.
That graphics card was a significant problem, as it was difficult to get hold of
one, but it was worth the hassle.
The machine arrived quite early this morning, extremely well packaged. They had
even put bubble wrap inside for additional shock protection - with a very clear
warning on the top! Looking inside it has been very neatly assembled, no random
loose wires. I added a CDROM drive I already had, and a second SSD, both of
these robbed from the older machine. The SSD has all my working project files
on it.
I installed devuan Linix 2.0.0 rc without any issues at all - no more
inexplicable SystemD failures. I then built up the system with all my favourite
programs. This was the most time consuming part of the install.
And the performance? Stunning! The machine is totally silent. There wasn't so
much as a whisper when maxing out all 8 cores compiling the latest Rosegarden
image! One of my most complex projects had to run at 5.33mS Latency on the old
machine, and I didn't dare touch anything while it was going. On the new one I
can run it at 1.33mS, and shuffle various windows around without a single Xrun.
Sounds good to me! Cost? Plus an option for a Ryzen 7 chip? Not that I
could afford such a thing with shipping from the UK. Although I am very
impressed with how well they packed it.
--
David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
9:08 a.m.
On Tue, 15 May 2018 20:18:43 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Sounds good to me! Cost? Plus an option for a Ryzen 7
chip? Not that I
could afford such a thing with shipping from the UK. Although I am very
impressed with how well they packed it.
Total cost (including delivery) was 850 ukp, so not cheap. I had been holding
on to savings for some time specfically for this purchase though, as the
previous machine was 8 years old and showing signs of stress. It was also quite
noisy. The new one is silent, so on a quiet evening I can now very faintly hear
a whine from the backlight of one of my hardware synths :o
The socket will take a Ryzen 7 and the PSU and heatsink are more than capable.
I doubt whether I'll bother though the performance is better than my needs for
the foreseeable future :)
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
9:58 a.m.
On 05/15/2018 09:08 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 20:18:43 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Sounds reasonable to me for what you go as a custom build.
Sounds good to me! Cost? Plus an option for a
Ryzen 7 chip? Not that I
could afford such a thing with shipping from the UK. Although I am very
impressed with how well they packed it.
Total cost (including delivery) was 850 ukp, so not cheap. I had been holding
on to savings for some time specfically for this purchase though, as the
previous machine was 8 years old and showing signs of stress. It was also quite
noisy. The new one is silent, so on a quiet evening I can now very faintly hear
a whine from the backlight of one of my hardware synths :o
Silent/fanless probably wouldn't work here. Hawaii's average temp is a
bit warmer than the UK, and we have no air conditioning.
Mine used to have a fanless power supply. It stayed reasonably cool
(until it died) but contributed nothing to cooling the array of hard
drives that are in the box.
The socket will take a Ryzen 7 and the PSU and
heatsink are more than capable.
I doubt whether I'll bother though the performance is better than my needs for
the foreseeable future :)
Yah, but I like to make large panoramas and the software I use supports
multicore/multithread CPUs very well. A Ryzen 7 or Threadripper would do. :)
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David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
6:16 p.m.
On Tue, 15 May 2018 21:58:20 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
I would think so - that's where these really shine, but it's rather overkill
for me :)
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Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
Silent/fanless probably wouldn't work here.
Hawaii's average temp is a
bit warmer than the UK, and we have no air conditioning.
Mine used to have a fanless power supply. It stayed reasonably cool
(until it died) but contributed nothing to cooling the array of hard
drives that are in the box.
There are two very large fans in the case which were barely moving, and also a
very slow one on the CPU heatsink (not the default AMD one). When I did that
Rosegarden compile (all 8 CPUs pegged) the CPU fan moved just a sniff faster.
The socket
will take a Ryzen 7 and the PSU and heatsink are more than capable.
I doubt whether I'll bother though the performance is better than my needs for
the foreseeable future :)
Yah, but I like to make large panoramas and the software I use supports
multicore/multithread CPUs very well. A Ryzen 7 or Threadripper would do. :)
17 May
17 May
6:41 a.m.
On 05/16/2018 06:16 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
I would think so - that's where these really shine, but it's rather overkill
for me :)
Well, maybe you need to have a full-sized orchestra in your box, with a
separate synthesizer for each individual instrument? ;)
--
David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
On Tue, 15 May 2018 21:58:20 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
My case has 4 fans plus CPU fan. Plus 5 spinning hard drives. The fans
run a lot to keep temps reasonable in our non-airconditioned Kapolei house.
Silent/fanless probably wouldn't work here.
Hawaii's average temp is a
bit warmer than the UK, and we have no air conditioning.
Mine used to have a fanless power supply. It stayed reasonably cool
(until it died) but contributed nothing to cooling the array of hard
drives that are in the box.
There are two very large fans in the case which were barely moving, and also a
very slow one on the CPU heatsink (not the default AMD one). When I did that
Rosegarden compile (all 8 CPUs pegged) the CPU fan moved just a sniff faster. The socket will take a Ryzen 7 and the PSU and
heatsink are more than capable.
I doubt whether I'll bother though the performance is better than my needs for
the foreseeable future :)
Yah, but I like to make large panoramas and the software I use supports
multicore/multithread CPUs very well. A Ryzen 7 or Threadripper would do. :) 
16 May
16 May
11:55 a.m.
On 05/12, Will Godfrey wrote:
I installed devuan Linix 2.0.0 rc without any issues at
all - no more
inexplicable SystemD failures. I then built up the system with all my favourite
programs. This was the most time consuming part of the install.
Are Devuan still struggling with timely security updates backed from debian?
And the performance? Stunning! The machine is totally
silent. There wasn't so
much as a whisper when maxing out all 8 cores compiling the latest Rosegarden
image! One of my most complex projects had to run at 5.33mS Latency on the old
machine, and I didn't dare touch anything while it was going. On the new one I
can run it at 1.33mS, and shuffle various windows around without a single Xrun.
Sounds good.
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regards.....
Thinkpad T60p 2.33Ghz 2GB SXGA+
Jabber IM: dekkzz76(a)jabber.hot-chilli.net
6:08 p.m.
On Wed, 16 May 2018 11:04:53 +0100
dekkzz78(a)gmail.com wrote:
On 05/12, Will Godfrey wrote:
I hadn't heard of that, so don't know. It's not an issue for me, as now all
the software is in place the machine is 'off grid'.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
I installed devuan Linix 2.0.0 rc without any
issues at all - no more
inexplicable SystemD failures. I then built up the system with all my favourite
programs. This was the most time consuming part of the install.
Are Devuan still struggling with timely security updates backed from debian?
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