16 Oct
2004
16 Oct
'04
1:34 a.m.
It's time to ask for advice. :-)
I'm playing a show next weekend with a rock band. I'm using a MIDI
controller and a Roland Sound Canvas for almost everything, but there
are two songs that need typical "Moog" sounds... highly distorted and
heavy portamento (think Weezer or The Rentals). This the Sound Canvas
cannot do (AFAIK).
Without buying an old Moog, what are my options, and what do you
suggest... looking for cheap, and flawless on-stage?
Ideas:
1. Look for a cheap used MIDI sound module with great portamento. I've
never seen one.
2. Alsa Modular Synth. I really like the portamento effect, but I've
yet to find any great moog sounds, and I'm not good at making my own.
It's quite stable, but gives me "clicky" artifacts sometimes.
3. ZynAddSubFX. Has some great synth sounds, but the portamento is too
"over the top". Over dramatic.
4. VST. I have some *amazing* Moogy VST plugins, but no idea how to
use them with linux. I'm aware of the wine/vst libraries, but though
they were mainly for effects, not instruments.
5. Better ideas are welcome. Remember that simple and reliable is more
important than sound.
Thanks,
Austin
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Austin <aacton(a)yorku.ca>
16 Oct
16 Oct
2:32 a.m.
Portamento is a just a parameter, not the Moog itself.
By this way you'll never get Moog-like sounsd.
Sorry.
On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 23:17 -0400, Austin wrote:
It's time to ask for advice. :-)
I'm playing a show next weekend with a rock band. I'm using a MIDI
controller and a Roland Sound Canvas for almost everything, but there
are two songs that need typical "Moog" sounds... highly distorted and
heavy portamento (think Weezer or The Rentals). This the Sound Canvas
cannot do (AFAIK).
Without buying an old Moog, what are my options, and what do you
suggest... looking for cheap, and flawless on-stage?
Ideas:
1. Look for a cheap used MIDI sound module with great portamento. I've
never seen one.
2. Alsa Modular Synth. I really like the portamento effect, but I've
yet to find any great moog sounds, and I'm not good at making my own.
It's quite stable, but gives me "clicky" artifacts sometimes.
3. ZynAddSubFX. Has some great synth sounds, but the portamento is too
"over the top". Over dramatic.
4. VST. I have some *amazing* Moogy VST plugins, but no idea how to
use them with linux. I'm aware of the wine/vst libraries, but though
they were mainly for effects, not instruments.
5. Better ideas are welcome. Remember that simple and reliable is more
important than sound.
Thanks,
Austin
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6:53 p.m.
On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 06:15:26AM +0200, ?t3 wrote:
> 4. VST. I have some *amazing* Moogy VST
plugins, but no idea how to
> use them with linux. I'm aware of the wine/vst libraries, but though
> they were mainly for effects, not instruments.
jack_fst is for instruments.
good luck building it... :(
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7:35 a.m.
Austin wrote:
I'm using a MIDI controller and a Roland Sound
Canvas for almost
everything, but there are two songs that need typical "Moog"
sounds... highly distorted and heavy portamento (think Weezer or
The Rentals). This the Sound Canvas cannot do (AFAIK).
Sound Canvases have both portamento and distortion effects, at least
the later models. Which one do you have?
And what exactly is the difference between the SC's portamento and the
portamento you want?
Regards,
Clemens
1:43 p.m.
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 11:17 +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Sound Canvases have both portamento and distortion
effects, at least
the later models. Which one do you have?
Really? Mine's an SC-50. If it has the ability, I have no idea how to
access it. I have no computer interface for it.
That would be much easier than using a laptop, but still, does nobody
have a suggestion for what to use for flawless live analog synth
performance?
Austin
2:56 p.m.
a certain Austin <aacton(a)yorku.ca> wrote:
That would be much easier than using a laptop, but
still, does nobody
have a suggestion for what to use for flawless live analog synth
performance?
Austin
the bristol synthesizer emulator?
http://www.slabexchange.org/index.cgi?DOWNLOAD
m
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9:10 p.m.
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 10:26, Austin wrote:
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 11:17 +0200, Clemens Ladisch
wrote:
The roland mks-50 is an awesome analog synth (dco's iirc). Well midi'd
and cheap. Great for bass and even leads (if you have a couple). It's
probably just what you want.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64386&item=3…
-ry
Sound Canvases have both portamento and
distortion effects, at least
the later models. Which one do you have?
Really? Mine's an SC-50. If it has the ability, I have no idea how to
access it. I have no computer interface for it.
That would be much easier than using a laptop, but still, does nobody
have a suggestion for what to use for flawless live analog synth
performance?
1:45 p.m.
On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 11:17 +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Sound Canvases have both portamento and distortion
effects, at least
the later models. Which one do you have?
Well I'll be damned.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen/personal/synth/roland_supp_notes.html
Austin
2:45 p.m.
Last Saturday 16 October 2004 04:17, Austin was like:
Without buying an old Moog, what are my options, and
what do you
suggest... looking for cheap, and flawless on-stage?
I really don't know about flawless. Moogs use proper oscillators all digital
sounds are effectively samples. There does seem to be a limit.
Ideas:
1. Look for a cheap used MIDI sound module with great portamento. I've
never seen one.
Me neither. Korg MS2000 has a module version, probably about the closest.
2. Alsa Modular Synth. I really like the portamento
effect, but I've
yet to find any great moog sounds, and I'm not good at making my own.
It's quite stable, but gives me "clicky" artifacts sometimes.
I think probably the best. A lot of the clicks are caused by agressive attack
stages on the envelope generators, back them off a tad and the click goes.
The art of those Moog sounds was really twiddling about with the knobs, trying
to find a preset is often hard work. I'm a particular fan of resonant filter
sweeps. Any preset you might find is guaranteed to be naff.
3. ZynAddSubFX. Has some great synth sounds, but the
portamento is too
"over the top". Over dramatic.
Ah. ZynAddSubFX is beautiful, transparent and probably the wrong place to
look.
Dunno about VST
For raw instant gratification, try amsynth. It's a one-stop two osc polyphonic
[!] with knobs on. It's rough as you like, but if this is a rock band, you
may like. The other option would be a working version of Bristol (sadly, I've
never seen one). A Pd patch would probably be fairly straightforward too, but
as you say you're not a sound designer this may not be an option.
So, pure GNU solutions boil down to amsynth, for rough & ready; ALSA Modular
synth if you're prepared to create your own patch.
Failing all that, I'd borrow an MS10 or SH101 from somewhere.
cheers
tim hall
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