18 Jul
2005
18 Jul
'05
3:34 p.m.
Entirely monotonous (you've been warned); totally
unpolished; in it's formative stages; etc. etc.. I was
just excited at having produced anything at all with
my new Linux mini-studio, so ...
http://83.141.72.40/music/92/complete.ogg
SETUP:
MusE
Piano - Soundfont loaded in fluidsynth via MusE
Drums - Hydrogen
Bass - ZynAddSubFx
Recorded into JACK Timemachine
Edited and compressed (crudely) with Snd and Ecasound
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David Collins
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18 Jul
18 Jul
8:31 p.m.
David Collins <davidcollins78(a)yahoo.com>om>:
Entirely monotonous (you've been warned); totally
unpolished; in it's formative stages; etc. etc.. I was
just excited at having produced anything at all with
my new Linux mini-studio, so ...
http://83.141.72.40/music/92/complete.ogg
David, the piano theme makes me think of children smiling, of age, of a
tree's beauty. To me it is very, very moving. I think part of that is
that the "piano" is deeply anchored in our acoustic and social world,
like you hear a century when you hear a piano. And part of it is the
beauty of simple things, like a child that smiles at you. Like the
movement of your theme. I'm listening over and over.
Another thing, bluntly put: The drums suck so very hard that they manage
to make me cry after all. Know what I think? That drum-sequencers are
just wrong. They do strange things to people. They did to the 80s.
All the best to you, Wolfgang
19 Jul
19 Jul
2:42 a.m.
Another thing, bluntly put: The drums suck so very
hard that they manage
to make me cry after all. Know what I think? That drum-sequencers are
just wrong. They do strange things to people. They did to the 80s.
All the best to you, Wolfgang
The fact that you think they ruined *80's* music is an indication of
just how far drum programming has come. It's used more than ever now in
commercial music, but the programmers and sequencers have come along
enough that you don't notice that it's sequenced. I have no doubt that
with csound I could program drums that only a drummer or a professional
engineer *might* be able to tell are sequenced.
Not that in many many instaces I don't think real drummers are vastly
preferrable, but dismissing drum sequencing out of hand for all types of
music is just silly. You might as well dismiss synthesizers for not
having the same spectral richness as violins!
Iain
5:03 a.m.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:30:38AM +0200, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
David, the piano theme makes me think of children smiling, of age, of a
tree's beauty. To me it is very, very moving. I think part of that is
that the "piano" is deeply anchored in our acoustic and social world,
like you hear a century when you hear a piano. And part of it is the
beauty of simple things, like a child that smiles at you. Like the
movement of your theme. I'm listening over and over.
No children or trees here, but it's sure nice. Allthough I would
shorten the track a bit.
Another thing, bluntly put: The drums suck so very
hard that they manage
to make me cry after all. Know what I think? That drum-sequencers are
just wrong. They do strange things to people. They did to the 80s.
I like obviously sequenced drums in many cases. But here the drums
have an entirely different feel from the piano. A bit slow for that, but
kick an claps still say "party" to me. That doesn't make the fact
they're
sequenced the problem, since drums can be programmed to match any kind
of feel.
David: my advice would be to listen to some ballads, maybe older stuff
from Mariah Carey and to analyze the drums regarding sound and rhythmic
characteristics.
---
Thorsten Wilms
1:02 p.m.
Hi, I've just joined the list.
This track is beautiful. I can't stop listening to it.
I understand the critics on the drum part. But I have to disagree. The
drum pattern - but also the piano - is a bit naif, it's ingenuous.
Therefore it is beautiful. Working on it would be going in the direction
of a more commercial (some might say alternative) production, which
would be silly.
We don't need expensive software (and hardware) to make music anymore,
we don't need a publisher anymore. So we don't need to adhere to some
silly commercial cliches anymore.
Cesare Marilungo
Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:30:38AM +0200, Wolfgang
Woehl wrote:
David, the piano theme makes me think of children smiling, of age, of a
tree's beauty. To me it is very, very moving. I think part of that is
that the "piano" is deeply anchored in our acoustic and social world,
like you hear a century when you hear a piano. And part of it is the
beauty of simple things, like a child that smiles at you. Like the
movement of your theme. I'm listening over and over.
No children or trees here, but it's sure nice. Allthough I would
shorten the track a bit.
Another thing, bluntly put: The drums suck so very
hard that they manage
to make me cry after all. Know what I think? That drum-sequencers are
just wrong. They do strange things to people. They did to the 80s.
I like obviously sequenced drums in many cases. But here the drums
have an entirely different feel from the piano. A bit slow for that, but
kick an claps still say "party" to me. That doesn't make the fact
they're
sequenced the problem, since drums can be programmed to match any kind
of feel.
David: my advice would be to listen to some ballads, maybe older stuff
from Mariah Carey and to analyze the drums regarding sound and rhythmic
characteristics.
---
Thorsten Wilms
3:46 p.m.
It's cool to receive these sort of positive comments
guys - even if they are qualified with the opinion
that the drums are somewhat dismal/naff (..no - they
aren't hugely to my satisfaction either; and I think
that their abrupt disappearance toward the end of the
track can seem ...well ...somewhat farcical/ridiculous
).
Anyway, as I said - it was just one of the first
things I came up with in my new setup, and I was eager
to get some feedback. Now that the novelty has worn
off, I think I can venture to promise something more
structured, polished and less crude in the future.
Nice of ye to listen, and I'll be mulling over the
criticisms.
Cheers
David
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23 Jul
23 Jul
1:42 p.m.
Hi,
David Collins a écrit :
Entirely monotonous (you've been warned); totally
unpolished; in it's formative stages; etc. etc.. I was
just excited at having produced anything at all with
my new Linux mini-studio, so ...
http://83.141.72.40/music/92/complete.ogg
I don't know well how to traduce my feeling, this should not be my
prefered type of music but I like it: I'm not a musician but your sound
sounds well :)
I can't discern that piano is not a real piano, happy to see (hear) it.
Tux can now be a melomane :D
Thanks
Jody
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