27 Jan
2021
27 Jan
'21
2:07 a.m.
Hi all,
I recently migrated to ubuntu studio 20.04 and was wondering why no
mididings package exists any more. When sure enough I has to do with
dropping python2 and the lack of maintainers for mididings.
How have you handled this ? Is there an alternative or do you reinstate
python2 and build mididings ?
Thank you all,
Athanasios
27 Jan
27 Jan
2:36 a.m.
Athanasios Silis <athanasios.silis(a)gmail.com> writes:
Hi all,
I recently migrated to ubuntu studio 20.04 and was wondering why no
mididings package exists any more. When sure enough I has to do with
dropping python2 and the lack of maintainers for mididings.
How have you handled this ? Is there an alternative or do you reinstate
python2 and build mididings ?
I sit, I sigh, I faint, I weep, I die in deadly pain and endless misery.
In short, I haven't yet found a good solution and have relevant scripts
that are actually a non-trivial part of my Midi playing toolbox.
--
David Kastrup
3:28 a.m.
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021, Athanasios Silis wrote:
I recently migrated to ubuntu studio 20.04 and was
wondering why no
mididings package exists any more. When sure enough I has to do with
dropping python2 and the lack of maintainers for mididings.
How have you handled this ? Is there an alternative or do you reinstate
python2 and build mididings ?
Can qmidiroute do what you need?
File a bug report with the mididings maintainer? To "reinstate" python2 in
many distros means use an older version... go back to 18.04 or something
like that. or find a distro that still keeps older pythons.
Mididings is not the only software affected for sure. What is likely with
many of these projects, is that the author's own system can't run their
own software at which point they decide to update or abandon it.
Bitrot is a thing. Any software without maintainance will just one day not
be usable.
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8:46 a.m.
Le 27/01/2021 à 02:27, Len Ovens a écrit :
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021, Athanasios Silis wrote:
Maybe for basic routing, but mididings is way more powerful mod-able
than qmidiroute is.
I recently migrated to ubuntu studio 20.04 and
was wondering why no
mididings package exists any more. When sure enough I has to do with
dropping python2 and the lack of maintainers for mididings.
How have you handled this ? Is there an alternative or do you reinstate
python2 and build mididings ?
Can qmidiroute do what you need?
File a bug report with the mididings maintainer? To "reinstate" python2
in many distros means use an older version... go back to 18.04 or
something like that. or find a distro that still keeps older pythons.
Didn't dig deep in python2/3 mess, and my live machine is not at home by
now, but I do use Mididings in a Debian Bullseye uptodate, and it works
like a charm. I don't remember having done anything about python2 and
python3, and I do use both.
Still, mididings isn't in Debian Bullseye repository either, so I
suppose it's goin to disappear from time to time. My version probably
comes from when I first installed this machine years ago.
Bitrot is a thing. Any software without maintainance will just one day
not be usable.
What is it about bitrot? Will be stopped too?
11:39 a.m.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 05:27:50PM -0800, Len Ovens wrote:
Bitrot is a thing. Any software without maintainance
will just one day not
be usable.
Python 3 was released in 2008, and Python 2 'end of life' was originally
planned for 2015 and later delayed to 2020. Most of the new features in
P3 were backported to P2 which allowed to do the transition in small and
manageable steps. There was really no excuse for postponing this until
it was too late.
Mididings is not the only project that for no good reason chose to ignore
the transition to Python 3: GnuRadio did this as well and nearly missed
the deadline, resulting in a lot of havoc when the first Pyhon 3 version
was released a few months ago.
Even having mixed Python and C++ is no excuse. My own zita-jacktools also
partially implements Python classes in C++, without using any toolset to
do this, just the native C API. It takes something like 10 lines of code
in each class to support both P2 and P3.
Just my 2e-2 Euros of course.
Ciao,
--
FA
12:22 p.m.
Hi,
On 27/01/2021 01:06, Athanasios Silis wrote:
I recently migrated to ubuntu studio 20.04 and was
wondering why no mididings
package exists any more. When sure enough I has to do with dropping python2 and
the lack of maintainers for mididings.
How have you handled this ? Is there an alternative or do you reinstate python2
and build mididings ?
I havn't tested it but there seems to be a version patched to be used with
python3 at https://github.com/rralf/mididings
discussed here
https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ
You have to build it on your own though but there is help within the thread.
Good luck
Gerhard
4:58 p.m.
Am 27.01.21 um 11:22 schrieb Gerhard Zintel:
On 27/01/2021 01:06, Athanasios Silis wrote:
Reading the homepage of mididings http://das.nasophon.de/mididings/ the
author claims that this software is working with python3.
("Dependencies: Python >= 2.5 (also works with 3.x) […]")
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mididings
Don't know, why they took it out of the repo, but they did.
Greets!
Mitsch
How have you handled this ? Is there an
alternative or do you
reinstate python2
and build mididings ?
I havn't tested it but there seems to be a version patched to be used
with
python3 at https://github.com/rralf/mididings
discussed here
https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ
You have to build it on your own though but there is help within the
thread.
7:38 p.m.
I think I read somewhere that support got dropped because the source is
unmaintained.
it seems to be true https://github.com/dsacre/mididings , last commit is 5y
ago.
https://github.com/rralf/mididings seems a hopeful pickup. I managed to
pick up all the dependencies (optional too) and I try to build
During link stage I get
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_python
which is weird because I do have the latest version of libboost-python-dev
installed.
Anyway, looking into it (if someone has any idea let me know)
Best regards,
Athanasios
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:00 PM Michael Jarosch <riotsound(a)riotmusic.de>
wrote:
Am 27.01.21 um 11:22 schrieb Gerhard Zintel:
On 27/01/2021 01:06, Athanasios Silis wrote:
Reading the homepage of mididings http://das.nasophon.de/mididings/ the
author claims that this software is working with python3.
("Dependencies: Python >= 2.5 (also works with 3.x) […]")
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mididings
Don't know, why they took it out of the repo, but they did.
Greets!
Mitsch
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How have you handled this ? Is there an
alternative or do you
reinstate python2
and build mididings ?
I havn't tested it but there seems to be a version patched to be used
with
python3 at https://github.com/rralf/mididings
discussed here
https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ
You have to build it on your own though but there is help within the
thread.
7:57 p.m.
hm ok
simply solution. I just added a soft link
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_python38.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_python.so
YES looks like it works fine!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 7:38 PM Athanasios Silis <athanasios.silis(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I think I read somewhere that support got dropped
because the source is
unmaintained.
it seems to be true https://github.com/dsacre/mididings , last commit is
5y ago.
https://github.com/rralf/mididings seems a hopeful pickup. I managed to
pick up all the dependencies (optional too) and I try to build
During link stage I get
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_python
which is weird because I do have the latest version of libboost-python-dev
installed.
Anyway, looking into it (if someone has any idea let me know)
Best regards,
Athanasios
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:00 PM Michael Jarosch <riotsound(a)riotmusic.de>
wrote:
Am 27.01.21 um 11:22 schrieb Gerhard Zintel:
On 27/01/2021 01:06, Athanasios Silis wrote:
Reading the homepage of mididings http://das.nasophon.de/mididings/ the
author claims that this software is working with python3.
("Dependencies: Python >= 2.5 (also works with 3.x) […]")
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mididings
Don't know, why they took it out of the repo, but they did.
Greets!
Mitsch
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How have you handled this ? Is there an
alternative or do you
reinstate python2
and build mididings ?
I havn't tested it but there seems to be a version patched to be used
with
python3 at https://github.com/rralf/mididings
discussed here
https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ
You have to build it on your own though but there is help within the
thread. 
28 Jan
28 Jan
7:36 a.m.
Good idea. Perhaps you'll get to discover any bugs remaining in
mididings' interaction with python3. ;)
On 1/27/21 7:56 AM, Athanasios Silis wrote:
hm ok
simply solution. I just added a soft link
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_python38.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_python.so
YES looks like it works fine!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 7:38 PM Athanasios Silis
<athanasios.silis(a)gmail.com <mailto:athanasios.silis@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think I read somewhere that support got dropped because the
source is unmaintained.
it seems to be true https://github.com/dsacre/mididings
<https://github.com/dsacre/mididings> , last commit is 5y ago.
https://github.com/rralf/mididings
<https://github.com/rralf/mididings> seems a hopeful pickup. I
managed to pick up all the dependencies (optional too) and I try
to build
During link stage I get
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_python
which is weird because I do have the latest version of
libboost-python-dev installed.
Anyway, looking into it (if someone has any idea let me know)
Best regards,
Athanasios
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:00 PM Michael Jarosch
<riotsound(a)riotmusic.de <mailto:riotsound@riotmusic.de>> wrote:
Am 27.01.21 um 11:22 schrieb Gerhard Zintel:
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On 27/01/2021 01:06, Athanasios Silis wrote:
to
be used
How have you handled this ? Is there an
alternative or do you
reinstate python2
and build mididings ?
I havn't tested it but there seems to be a version patched with
python3 at https://github.com/rralf/mididings
<https://github.com/rralf/mididings>
discussed here
https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ
<https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ>
You have to build it on your own though but there is help
within the
thread.
Reading the homepage of
mididings
http://das.nasophon.de/mididings/
<http://das.nasophon.de/mididings/> the
author claims that this software is working with python3.
("Dependencies: Python >= 2.5 (also works with 3.x) […]")
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mididings
<https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mididings>
Don't know, why they took it out of the repo, but they did.
Greets!
Mitsch
4:17 p.m.
I came here just to let you know that I had problems like this with
Ubuntu as well. I wanted to let you know, though, that if you want more
reliable access to software like this, an Arch-based system may help
you. I constantly had problems of not having new-enough software, and
compiling things from source, only to find that I didn't have new-enough
libraries to compile software. When I switched to Arch though, that all
changed. Packages install faster, I am able to compile whatever I need,
I don't need to compile a lot of software, and the AUR even has
mididings if your fix stops working for you! And, there is a pro-audio
group package that installs tons of great audio software.
If you are interested in Arch and want some help, feel free to message
me, I can help you out. Try out Manjaro and see if you like that, it
gives you an install of Arch with everything setup for you.
Brandon Hale
On 1/27/21 12:56 PM, Athanasios Silis wrote:
hm ok
simply solution. I just added a soft link
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_python38.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_python.so
YES looks like it works fine!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 7:38 PM Athanasios Silis
<athanasios.silis(a)gmail.com <mailto:athanasios.silis@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think I read somewhere that support got dropped because the
source is unmaintained.
it seems to be true https://github.com/dsacre/mididings
<https://github.com/dsacre/mididings> , last commit is 5y ago.
https://github.com/rralf/mididings
<https://github.com/rralf/mididings> seems a hopeful pickup. I
managed to pick up all the dependencies (optional too) and I try
to build
During link stage I get
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_python
which is weird because I do have the latest version of
libboost-python-dev installed.
Anyway, looking into it (if someone has any idea let me know)
Best regards,
Athanasios
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:00 PM Michael Jarosch
<riotsound(a)riotmusic.de <mailto:riotsound@riotmusic.de>> wrote:
Am 27.01.21 um 11:22 schrieb Gerhard Zintel:
On 27/01/2021 01:06, Athanasios Silis wrote:
to
be used
How have you handled this ? Is there an
alternative or do you
reinstate python2
and build mididings ?
I havn't tested it but there seems to be a version patched with
python3 at https://github.com/rralf/mididings
<https://github.com/rralf/mididings>
discussed here
https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ
<https://groups.google.com/g/mididings/c/JmHc4xk1QwE/m/PD-hJngiEgAJ>
You have to build it on your own though but there is help
within the
thread.
Reading the homepage of
mididings
http://das.nasophon.de/mididings/
<http://das.nasophon.de/mididings/> the
author claims that this software is working with python3.
("Dependencies: Python >= 2.5 (also works with 3.x) […]")
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mididings
<https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mididings>
Don't know, why they took it out of the repo, but they did.
Greets!
Mitsch
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