On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 15:12, R Parker wrote: Ron, I would think that many MIDI patch librarian's would store MIDI SysEx data. I know they do in Windows. I think the limitation of storing it to file using the method you found would be that you'll also (I presume) want to be able to send the SysEx settings back to the mixer to reconfigure it later. I bookmarked this page sometime ago: http://www.synthzone.com/editlib.htm There I found jSynthLib, which says it handles SysEx on its documentation page. Don't know I'd want to be tied to Java though. http://www.overwhelmed.org/jsynthlib/ Anyway, I think you'll probably find something pretty nice pretty quickly if you look in this basic patch librarian area. Good luck, Mark

Hi, --- Michal Seta <mis(a)creazone.32k.org> wrote: I just tried it with my DM-24 and it locks the box and requires a "reset". The DM-24 has a Cancel option and I suspect that saved me from losing anything. ron __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

Hi ron, No sweat. I thought I'd try it because I don't use that module so much, anyways, so I didn't mind loosing data. I have been able to reset it, no problem and even upload the original SySex (ah, those 80's memories). I even have some of my own sysex dumps somewhere in the backup CDs. Anyways, at least the linux community knows now that cat x.mid >/dev/midi doesn't really work. I would assume that editing the dump file (generated via cat /dev/midi >dump) into correct sequences of SySex messages and sending them sequentially (via a script?) might still work. On a related note, I noticed (a while ago) that I have been unable to record a sysex dump to a MIDI sequencer (I tried MuSe and perhaps seq24) and then play it back into the unit (I mean I can record and play but I always get checksum errors). Other people's SySex in .mid format works for me. It could be that it's my synth sending erroneus SySex. I haven't really looked into it in detail. This is still with a Roland GR-50. I know that some of the D series models had a bug with checksum calculations. If anyone has any idea about this, let me know. But it's no rush. I would have forgotten all about this if it wasn't for this thread. I guess I can blame Ron for reminding me of my old problems :) cheers. ./MiS On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:02:22 -0700 (PDT) R wrote:

Hi list, On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:20:09 -0500 Michal Seta &lt;mis(a)creazone.32k.org&gt; wrote: [..] I think noone here ever said that "cat x.mid >/dev/midi" works the way you expect it to work. You seem to be confusing raw SysEx files with MIDI files - they are NOT the same. Raw SysEx files start with 0xF0 and end with 0xF7 (with possibly more than one F0..<data>..F7 sections inside). MIDI files, on the other hand, are much more complex, contain tracks, notes, possibly controller and/or SysEx information, timing data, maybe even text for Karaoka sessions and so on. They start with the 4 ASCII bytes "MThd", and whatever comes after that should be detailed in the MIDI file format spec. A MIDI file _may_ contain SysEx data and this is sometimes used as a means to distribute new OS versions for synthesizers (e.g., that's true for my Novation Supernova II), but a simple "cat" command of such a file will send the entire MIDI file data to the device, which will most probably confuse it. A "good" MIDI file player (pmidi?) might be able to send the SysEx data contained in a MIDI file to your external device, but I have not yet tried this. [..] As Julien explained in another mail, at least my Roland D50 (and probably also other Roland keyboards) normally require a Handshake protocol for data transfers. However, I can turn this of like this: - Normally I press "Data Transfer" and then e.g. "Bulk Dump" or "Bulk Load". This will initiate a handshake-type communication. - Instead, if I first press "Data Transfer" and then hold "Data Transfer" again while pressing "Bulk Load" or "Bulk Dump", the display says "Bulk Dump.O" or "Bulk Load.O" ("O" for One-shot). In this mode, no handshaking is required or even expected, and the Roland will just either send (Bulk Dump) or receive (Bulk Load) all data that is supposed to come. Using this mode, I have successfully loaded a couple of new sound banks into the D50 and also backed them up on the PC. The Handshake-mode seems to be a bit exotic; all of my other synths do not need it (Korg, Akai, Yamaha, Novation), and I can just start sending/receiving without any handshake. Hope that helps, Frank