7 Jun
2005
7 Jun
'05
10:20 a.m.
Greetings:
I'd like to know what my fellow LAUyers recommend for a mic preamp for
use with the following gear:
mics:
Shure SM58
Yamaha MZ106s
interfaces:
M-Audio Delta 66
PDAudioCF PCMCIA digital input card
The gear is used for desktop recording, so I'd like to keep the cost
low. Like, really low... ;)
Best,
dp
7 Jun
7 Jun
10:51 a.m.
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:54:49 -0400
Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
I'd like to know what my fellow LAUyers
recommend for a mic preamp for
use with the following gear:
mics:
Shure SM58
Yamaha MZ106s
interfaces:
M-Audio Delta 66
PDAudioCF PCMCIA digital input card
M-Audio has the Omni I/O box that interfaces with the Delta 66 and gives
you 2 very nice mic preamps. I don't mind the preamps in either of the 2
Behringer mixers I have, but don't push them too hard or they get noisy.
I also have a Behringer T1953 that I am not fond of at all - it seems
rather bright and hissy to me.
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11:13 a.m.
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:54:49AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
I'd like to know what my fellow LAUyers recommend for a mic preamp for
use with the following gear:
mics:
Shure SM58
Yamaha MZ106s
The gear is used for desktop recording, so I'd
like to keep the cost
low. Like, really low... ;)
Cheapest: M-Audio Audio Buddy.
If you want better sound quality, the next steps up are:
* Mackie 1202 VLZ. Yes, it's a mixer, but the 4 mic inputs are good
bang for buck, worth considering if you think you'll ever need more than
2 channels.
* FMR RNP - "Really Nice Preamp" highly thought of by many of the folks in
rec.audio.pro, a lot more expensive but way below the price of the real
golden channel stuff. Said to make an SM57 really shine.
I don't know about the sound cards you are using with them, but I doubt if
there's a problem with them and any of the above preamps. They all have
unbalanced outputs.
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1:21 p.m.
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:13:20PM +0100, anahata wrote:
If you want better sound quality, the next steps up
are:
* Mackie 1202 VLZ. Yes, it's a mixer, but the 4 mic inputs are good
bang for buck, worth considering if you think you'll ever need more than
2 channels.
+1. I have one. You can get one on ebay for approx $200,
and sooner or later the extra channels will come in really handy.
Honestly I doubt that anything cheaper is worth buying,
except in the sense that recording through a piece of crap is
preferable to not recording at all.
* FMR RNP - "Really Nice Preamp" highly
thought of by many of the folks in
rec.audio.pro, a lot more expensive but way below the price of the real
golden channel stuff. Said to make an SM57 really shine.
I want one of these :-) Actually I REALLY want some old Neve channels,
but hey, I also want super-strength, X-ray vision and invulnerability.
There are some interesting DIY projects out there if
you're inclined for that sort of thing.
googling for "DIY mic preamp" turns up lots.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
12:04 p.m.
On 6/7/05, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com> wrote:
Greetings:
I'd like to know what my fellow LAUyers recommend for a mic preamp for
use with the following gear:
mics:
Shure SM58
Yamaha MZ106s
interfaces:
M-Audio Delta 66
PDAudioCF PCMCIA digital input card
The gear is used for desktop recording, so I'd like to keep the cost
low. Like, really low... ;)
I use an M-Audio Audio Buddy with my Delta 66. I got it new for $50
(on sale) at Guitar Center. I don't think you can beat it for the
price: 2 channels, balanced outs, plus hi-Z inputs (so you can use it
like as a DI, works good for bass guitar).
I also picked up a M-Audio Duo from eBay (it's discontinued). Though
marketed as a USB audio interface, it has a standalone mode where it
works as a 2 channel mic pre with A/D and S/PDIF out. Plugged into the
Delta 66 S/PDIF in, I can use all 6 channels at once (though I
haven't, yet). I think the mic pres are the same as the DMP-2; they
sound slightly nicer.
Paul
1:25 p.m.
I'd like to know what my fellow LAUyers
recommend for a mic preamp for
use with the following gear:
mics:
Shure SM58
Yamaha MZ106s
interfaces:
M-Audio Delta 66
PDAudioCF PCMCIA digital input card
The gear is used for desktop recording, so I'd like to keep the cost
low. Like, really low... ;)
Mic pre's on the cheap....
My first choice might be the Studio Projects VTB1. My next door neighbor
(we both have home studios) has one of these and I have had the
opportunity to use it in many situations -all of which I was impressed!
First as mic pre in this price range, I don't think you can beat it. It
also functions excellently as a direct box for "warming up" keyboards, or
recording bass or guitar direct.
Check out the review at Mojo Pie, http://www.mojopie.com/vtb1.html
and of course the Studio Projects web site,
http://www.studioprojects.com/vtb1.html
They are certainly cheap - $99.00 each at zZounds,
http://www.zzounds.com/item--STUVTB1
Another option would be the PAiA "Tube Head" Tube Microphone Pre-amp kit.
I have two channels which have been heavily modded and I like them a lot,
although they might not appeal to everyone.
If you choose this route, I would suggest the following:
Check out, and incorporate these mods
http://www.paia.com/tmpmod.htm
http://www.tapeop.com/magazine/bonus/paiamicpremods.html
Pull the "symmetry" trim pot off the circuit board and mount a pot on the
front panel. The "Symmetry" trim pot controls the amount of odd or even
harmonics (warmer <-> colder tube sound), and can do a lot in helping you
shape your sound. You may need to use a case with slightly more front
panel space to allow for the additional pot.
Check out http://www.paia.com/tubestuf.htm
BTW if you are not currently reading Tape-Op, you should be - besides it's
(still) free!
http://www.tapeop.com/
My 2-cents
Clement
2:24 p.m.
Dave Phillips wrote:
The gear is used for desktop recording, so I'd like to keep the cost
low. Like, really low... ;)
http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_behringer_mic200_tube_ultragain_preamp_prodinf…
How about this? I know some people do not like Behringer products, but I
think this would be suitable for not too picky, like me.
6:15 p.m.
Greetings:
Many thanks for all the advice ! I've placed a watch on a couple of
items on eBay, hopefully I'll score one within the next few days. The
Audio Buddy looks like it'll do for my purposes, but if I lose out on
that one I've also put a watch on a Behringer.
Best,
dp
8 Jun
8 Jun
9:34 p.m.
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:49:26PM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings:
Many thanks for all the advice ! I've placed a watch on a couple of
items on eBay, hopefully I'll score one within the next few days. The
Audio Buddy looks like it'll do for my purposes, but if I lose out on
that one I've also put a watch on a Behringer.
Dave, if you'd like to hear some auditions of the Audio Buddy or Ultra
Gain Pro, I could record a few quick samples, though I don't have a
great room to record in.
Lemme know!
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross(a)lug.udel.edu
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
9:33 p.m.
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:26:39PM +0300, Esa Linna wrote:
I have both an M-Audio Audio Buddy and a Behringer UltraGain Pro (rack
mount, two channel, lame-ass tube imitation version of the above).
Both are perfectly serviceable with my mics (SM57, E220 kick, two
MXL large diaphragm condensors)
Both are quite transparent - transparent enough that I can usually
just hear how much my rooms suck for recording! If you're looking for
coloring, look at something more expensive ::-)
--
Ross Vandegrift
ross(a)lug.udel.edu
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
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