12 Oct
2004
12 Oct
'04
3:54 p.m.
It seems that the little "lunch box" form factor with a flat screen
monitor is really portable but has the advantage of giving you control
over the kinds of hardware you're using, as opposed to a laptop where
you're at the manufacturer's mercy.
I would think that your safest bet would be to convert a mac power book
into a PPC linux machine, but building a little linux lunchbox machine
would still be a lot cheaper than forking out $2000 for a powerbook, but
that's still better than spending $850 on a paper weight.
12 Oct
12 Oct
4:49 p.m.
Brian Redfern wrote:
It seems that the little "lunch box" form
factor with a flat screen
monitor is really portable but has the advantage of giving you control
over the kinds of hardware you're using, as opposed to a laptop where
you're at the manufacturer's mercy.
I would think that your safest bet would be to convert a mac power book
into a PPC linux machine, but building a little linux lunchbox machine
would still be a lot cheaper than forking out $2000 for a powerbook, but
that's still better than spending $850 on a paper weight.
If you have a cheap laptop spare...
I did the ATX small form factor with Delta 1010LT and I run X-Win32 from
Win xp on the laptop to control the box as a headless...but I already
had the spare laptop.
R~
5:14 p.m.
Hallo,
Brian Redfern hat gesagt: // Brian Redfern wrote:
It seems that the little "lunch box" form
factor with a flat screen
monitor is really portable but has the advantage of giving you control
over the kinds of hardware you're using, as opposed to a laptop where
you're at the manufacturer's mercy.
Why not use a suitcase?
Pictures from the pd~convention04 in Graz showing Pd suitcases
from Barcelona:
http://www.guckes.net/pics/2004/10-01/.tmp/dscn8470.jpg.html
http://www.guckes.net/pics/2004/10-01/.tmp/dscn8469.jpg.html
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
13 Oct
13 Oct
12:32 a.m.
Hallo,
Brian Redfern hat gesagt: // Brian Redfern wrote:
I kinda like this idea, but I'm worried that I'd pay for it by spending a
lot of extra time going through airport security :-\
Anybody have experience with this?
It seems that the little "lunch box"
form factor with a flat screen
monitor is really portable but has the advantage of giving you control
over the kinds of hardware you're using, as opposed to a laptop where
you're at the manufacturer's mercy.
Why not use a suitcase?
Pictures from the pd~convention04 in Graz showing Pd suitcases
from Barcelona:
http://www.guckes.net/pics/2004/10-01/.tmp/dscn8470.jpg.html
http://www.guckes.net/pics/2004/10-01/.tmp/dscn8469.jpg.html 
1:38 a.m.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:14:30 -0500 (CDT), pw_lists(a)slinkp.com
<pw_lists(a)slinkp.com> wrote:
I would never again think of carrying a box like this into an airport.
What a mess! You'd be arrested the minute you were on the sidewalk
outside!
Hallo,
Brian Redfern hat gesagt: // Brian Redfern wrote:
I kinda like this idea, but I'm worried that I'd pay for it by spending a
lot of extra time going through airport security :-\
Anybody have experience with this?
It seems that the little "lunch box"
form factor with a flat screen
monitor is really portable but has the advantage of giving you control
over the kinds of hardware you're using, as opposed to a laptop where
you're at the manufacturer's mercy.
Why not use a suitcase?
Pictures from the pd~convention04 in Graz showing Pd suitcases
from Barcelona:
http://www.guckes.net/pics/2004/10-01/.tmp/dscn8470.jpg.html
http://www.guckes.net/pics/2004/10-01/.tmp/dscn8469.jpg.html 
9:42 a.m.
If all you need to do is record in the field, playback/monitor and minimal
editing, you might consider an HP iPAQ running Linux/Familiar and our
PDAudio-CF high-res digital audio interface card. It'll record two channels
of 24/96 and has a stable ALSA driver. It's the smallest high-res audio
recorder available today.
Len Moskowitz
Core Sound
www.core-sound.com
2:44 p.m.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:27:03AM -0400, Len Moskowitz wrote:
If all you need to do is record in the field,
playback/monitor and minimal
editing, you might consider an HP iPAQ running Linux/Familiar and our
PDAudio-CF high-res digital audio interface card. It'll record two channels
of 24/96 and has a stable ALSA driver. It's the smallest high-res audio
recorder available today.
Hi Len,
I have an ipaq and have been considering your product for some time. As
I understand it your cf card takes digital input, so it requires
additional external ADC, preamp and microphones, correct? still smaller
than a laptop or shuttle box settup, of course. Is this still the case?
-Eric Rz.
4:31 p.m.
Hi Eric,
Yes, it is, and it is much smaller than a laptop and external USB or
Firewire mic pre/A-to-D. A good match is our Mic2496 dual mic
pre-amp/A-to-D converter. See our Web site for details.
Feel free to ask more questions.
Len Moskowitz
Core Sound
www.core-sound.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Dantan Rzewnicki" <rzewnickie(a)rfa.org>
To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] laptop alternatives
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:27:03AM -0400, Len
Moskowitz wrote:
> If all you need to do is record in the field, playback/monitor and
minimal
> editing, you might consider an HP iPAQ running
Linux/Familiar and our
> PDAudio-CF high-res digital audio interface card. It'll record two
channels
of 24/96 and
has a stable ALSA driver. It's the smallest high-res audio
recorder available today.
Hi Len,
I have an ipaq and have been considering your product for some time. As
I understand it your cf card takes digital input, so it requires
additional external ADC, preamp and microphones, correct? still smaller
than a laptop or shuttle box settup, of course. Is this still the case?
-Eric Rz.
6:07 p.m.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 02:15:45PM -0400, Len Moskowitz wrote:
Hi Eric,
Yes, it is, and it is much smaller than a laptop and external USB or
Firewire mic pre/A-to-D. A good match is our Mic2496 dual mic
pre-amp/A-to-D converter. See our Web site for details.
Feel free to ask more questions.
I'm not planning to do typical concert recording. My use would be more
for collecting sounds from daily life, walks in the woods, traffic,
construction, etc. For such a variety of sound sources, what would be
the best mic to use with the mic2496/pdaudio-cf/ipaq combo?
Another appeal to me is having one audio interface/pre-amp/converter
settup that I could use either with my ipaq or with a (future) laptop.
I'm thinking of the ipaq for hands free sound collection and the laptop
more as a travelling studio for use in hotel rooms or while visiting
relatives or friends.
Are there other similar, possibly less expensive, devices that would
serve these purposes? The pdaudio-cf costs ~$200 and the mic2496 ~$500.
It will be awhile before I can make that kind of an investment.
My current solution is to leave the lens cap on my miniDV camcorder and
use that. This is ok for now. It's compact and decent quality. But,
is limited by the tape duration, the mechanical noise of the tape drive
motors and the linear access nature of tape. I've read that some
firewire interfaces allow the tape to be run at 4x speed for data
transfer, but I don't think my camcorder supports that. For field
recording it would be more convenient to transfer files by moving a cf
or microdrive card from the ipaq to a laptop or desktop, anyway. For
portable studio use recording directly to the laptop harddisk is even
more straightforward.
-Eric Rz.
14 Oct
14 Oct
12:41 p.m.
Hi again Eric,
If you need miniature mics, our HEBs using the DPA 4060 capsules would be my
first choice.
For a less expensive alternative you might have a look at Sony's latest
Hi-MD minidisc linear (no compression) recorders.
Len
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Dantan Rzewnicki" <rzewnickie(a)rfa.org>
To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] laptop alternatives
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 02:15:45PM -0400, Len
Moskowitz wrote:
Hi Eric,
Yes, it is, and it is much smaller than a laptop and external USB or
Firewire mic pre/A-to-D. A good match is our Mic2496 dual mic
pre-amp/A-to-D converter. See our Web site for details.
Feel free to ask more questions.
I'm not planning to do typical concert recording. My use would be more
for collecting sounds from daily life, walks in the woods, traffic,
construction, etc. For such a variety of sound sources, what would be
the best mic to use with the mic2496/pdaudio-cf/ipaq combo?
Another appeal to me is having one audio interface/pre-amp/converter
settup that I could use either with my ipaq or with a (future) laptop.
I'm thinking of the ipaq for hands free sound collection and the laptop
more as a travelling studio for use in hotel rooms or while visiting
relatives or friends.
Are there other similar, possibly less expensive, devices that would
serve these purposes? The pdaudio-cf costs ~$200 and the mic2496 ~$500.
It will be awhile before I can make that kind of an investment.
My current solution is to leave the lens cap on my miniDV camcorder and
use that. This is ok for now. It's compact and decent quality. But,
is limited by the tape duration, the mechanical noise of the tape drive
motors and the linear access nature of tape. I've read that some
firewire interfaces allow the tape to be run at 4x speed for data
transfer, but I don't think my camcorder supports that. For field
recording it would be more convenient to transfer files by moving a cf
or microdrive card from the ipaq to a laptop or desktop, anyway. For
portable studio use recording directly to the laptop harddisk is even
more straightforward.
-Eric Rz.
4:52 p.m.
For a budget portable recorder, I've been pretty happy with my iRiver
HP-120. It has 20 GB storage and will record uncompressed 16/44.1/2 wav
files, as well as MP3. The built-in mic pre is nothing great but fine for
my purposes (recording practices and improv and songwriting sessions). It
also has optical input if you want to get a nicer signal chain.
-PW
13 Oct
13 Oct
11:10 a.m.
I use a Shuttle SK41G (old by now), which is a little "lunch box"
style PC. It has one PCI slot, which I use for my M-Audio Delta 66.
It also has on AGP slot (empty on mine). I use onboard video and
ethernet without any trouble. It's a sorta-portable system, with an
LCD monitor. I intend to pack it up and bring it to a friend's house
to record there (he has a room with his drums set up there). I've
also got a combo CD-RW/DVD-ROM, and USB qwerty keyboard (Happy Hacking
keyboard) and MIDI keyboard (Evolution MK249C).
I like it better than a laptop for the reasons you already mentioned.
Theoretically, I can get a new Shuttle XPC motherboard if some
component goes.
I would avoid a Mac since they use a different processor; I think most
Linux audio software is developed for little-endian x86. My bet is
that most programs will give you trouble on big-endian PPC.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:36:51 -0700 (PDT), Brian Redfern
<bredfern(a)calarts.edu> wrote:
It seems that the little "lunch box" form
factor with a flat screen
monitor is really portable but has the advantage of giving you control
over the kinds of hardware you're using, as opposed to a laptop where
you're at the manufacturer's mercy.
I would think that your safest bet would be to convert a mac power book
into a PPC linux machine, but building a little linux lunchbox machine
would still be a lot cheaper than forking out $2000 for a powerbook, but
that's still better than spending $850 on a paper weight.
10:27 p.m.
Paul Coccoli <pcoccoli(a)gmail.com> writes:
Linux audio software is developed for little-endian
x86. My bet is
that most programs will give you trouble on big-endian PPC.
Not really.
Up until about 2 years ago I was running only PPC with linux. Yes,
there were some issues with endianess but even then it was a rare
thing. I was very happy with the PPC platform.
./MiS
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