On Sat, March 9, 2013 2:25 am, Patrick Shirkey wrote: I have been scouring the web and come across a reasonable selection of quality content. A couple of things I have noticed which I hope people round here can make some headway on this year. There are a lot of tutorial videos out there. That's very helpful that people have taken the time to make video tutorials but I think we have covered that space pretty well now. You can literally find a video tutorial for every piece of major Linux Audio software and sometimes the same topic is covered several times by different people. My suggestion is that if you are thinking of making a tutorial for an audio app please take a quick look on the web first and link to an existing one if possible. We also have a lot of music videos which are just screencasts of the music software playing the track while recording. I can see the value of this for a couple of uses but really it just looks a bit crap and pretty boring. I know that people are proud that they have mastered the tools but IMO if you are going to the effort to create a song it doesn't take much more to grab some video footage with your phone, stitch together some photos with blender or even just take some CC videos from http://wikimedia.org and make a video collage. Apart from that feedback there is actually not that much in terms of original FLOSS multimedia content being put online atm. Sure, Blender folks are pretty active and doing some very amazing stuff mostly in terms of short films less than 10 mins long and there are lots of demos of various FLOSS animation tools but comparatively few people are actually producing large amounts of original multimedia art at the moment. It's a lot less than those who are producing FLOSS audio on a regular basis. So my overall feedback is that people round here who are making music and games, etc... could do well to put in some time on the multimedia creation front too. After all we are mostly here to create digital art and audio does go so well with video. One thing for certain is that there is a huge consuming market waiting for anyone who cracks the audio/video entertainment production process for the global Linux community. And that represents a significant amount of cash too when combined with google ads or other marketing strategies... 1 good video can receive millions of views. Take a look at the animation tools like synfig, tupi, tvpaint, gimp (with gap). Get into blender, cinelerra, kino, kdenlive, openshot. Try generating some visuals with your favorite 3d game engine. Even try coding up some animations with open/webgl if that's what floats your boat. Putting together some original video footage for an audio track is really not that hard. We have all the tools so I don't know what is holding things up. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

On Thu, March 14, 2013 12:21 am, Len Ovens wrote: Even so that doesn't explain the lack of serious attempts at making full spectrum multimedia by other people round here and all the umbrella groups. Also how many people say that and then sit in front of a TV or computer for hours absorbing the visual experience. Given that the vast majority of us are visually enabled it is a bizarre that so few of us find the time to make the effort. Considering how much music round here is made by people who are just scratching an itch and are not really attempting to make professional grade productions but instead just pushing their own boundaries it seems like people are missing some opportunities for artistic expression by ignoring the possibilities that mixing audio and visual provides. Definitely ignoring some chances for making some cash out of their art too. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

On Thu, March 14, 2013 2:16 am, Brett McCoy wrote: Excellent! Do let me know when you have something ready for beta viewing ;-) -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

On Thu, March 14, 2013 3:06 am, drew Roberts wrote: Thanks Drew. The "Burn Station" video is interesting too! -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

On Wed, March 13, 2013 8:12 am, Patrick Shirkey wrote: Perhaps I am one of the odd ones, don't watch TV (no cable) and the only thing a prefer about xfce over fvwm of years ago is the slick way it auto creates the menu even when new apps are added without having to edit a file. I slider is easier to use for levels than a number too. I'm not anti-gui, And can enjoy animations... but not to the point of making drawings or video. Judging from the large number of responses to this and the LightWorks thread, I am indeed the odd one out. I don't know how I ever ended up working a TV station when I was younger... lack of work in Radio stations I guess. Lots of truth in that. Music gets people's attention better with video than without. It's a marketing thing. My visually focused sister remembers songs by what she was doing when she heard them. A video provides an experience to remember the song by. A remembered song sells. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:01:52AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I did, not at a commercial studio but at the Belgian public radio & TV, BRTN. Requirement for that was to have graduated at the then RITCS in Brussels, now part of Erasmus University, and passing a series of exams. I actually started there on the first of April, also my birthday. First appointment was an interview with the chief engineer. The night before the union (who had an axe to grind with him) had erected a stone wall blocking the door of his office, so we had the interview in the bar. BRTN had set up a specialised group doing only music recording a short time before, and I immediately opted for that, to be told that apart from formal musical training, playing an instrument and being able to read an orchestral score, this required at least two years in-house experience and familiarity with all the technical infrastucture and operations, radio and TV. The CE explained that the main reason for that was that he wanted the engineers at the music group to be able to resist pressure from supervisors, producers, etc. who would otherwise try to interfere with his work. And he was right about that as I later experienced many times. So I spent the first year with TV, followed by half a year in the on-air radio studios. After that I transferred to the music group, where you were on trial for two more years before being confirmed by your peers. I stayed there eight years, and then was supposed to take the management exam which would mean a boring supervisor job for some years, so I moved on. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

[Len Ovens] Interestingly, one of last century's most famed hit writers said that "it's the lyric that makes a song a hit, although the tune, of course, is what makes it last." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Berlin#cite_ref-Furia_32-0

On 03/14/2013 09:35 AM, Atte wrote: I believe that a lot of things related to audio needs to bee myth busted and sometimes, I still have a hard time when I realize that I have to rethink old truths. More mythbusting: :-) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html <http://people.xiph.org/%7Exiphmont/demo/neil-young.html> http://www.ethanwiner.com/myths.html and: http://www.ethanwiner.com/articles.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ Jostein

Hi, I have some audio-visual works done with 100% FLOSS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hezY5tgKxH4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jasi-lPHXEQ Both were shown publicly in the past. Also, this work in progress (also shown publicly for one night at Goethe Institute in Montreal on March first) but the footage is rather poor: https://vimeo.com/61160684 Also, there was a networked music performance between Montreal and Birmingham, excerpt of which can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egjLcRSkK9U Also, 100% Linux, FLOSS etc. A nice(er) video coming soon. Enjoy. ./MiS

On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 19:41 +0100, Robin Gareus wrote: Just a note, because on Debian user there again is a discussion about Flash. I don't have Flash or Gnash installed and I'm able to watch _this_ YouTube video with Firefox 19.0.2 on an updated Arch install. I didn't turn on audio, so I don't know if this does work too, but the film is ok. I tried to watch another video on YouTube, but it doesn't run, perhaps it started with a commercial.

On Thu, March 14, 2013 5:41 am, Robin Gareus wrote: Thanks, that's a great selection! -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

On Tue, March 19, 2013 5:05 pm, Leigh Dyer wrote: These are showing some creativity. I like where you are going with the space animations and the melted crayons are cool too. There were some very nice shots in the space sequences. Especially the sunrise on the moon. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd