17 Jan
2016
17 Jan
'16
4:14 p.m.
Hey hey everyone,
I want to put a string section in a quasi 3d room. I've looked up the
classical seating of a string section, but now I'm wondering about real
distances in a concert hall. Assuming I have a 60 instrumentalist string
section with 1st and 2nd violins, violas, celli and double basses. At what
distance am I looking in a straight line from left to right and front to back?
From there I can work out the finer points.
Thanks for any help!
Ta-ta
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17 Jan
17 Jan
4:54 p.m.
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:14:33 +0100 (CET), Ffanci Silvain wrote:
I want to put a string section in a quasi 3d room.
I've looked up the
classical seating of a string section, but now I'm wondering about
real distances in a concert hall. Assuming I have a 60 instrumentalist
string section with 1st and 2nd violins, violas, celli and double
basses. At what distance am I looking in a straight line from left to
right and front to back? From there I can work out the finer points.
Are you asking how much space between the 1st and the 2nd violins is?
Take a look at Fotos ;). All you need is the seating plan (European,
American, Martian ...) and a calculator. Within a group, they are
sitting side by side, with enough space to avoid that the bow of one
musician could upset another musician, but not enough space to fit a
small car. I doubt that a few meters are important for a simulated room
and the acoustic of a real room anyway depends much to the type of
architecture.
5:18 p.m.
[Ffanci Silvain]
Assuming I have a 60 instrumentalist string section
with 1st and 2nd
violins, violas, celli and double basses. At what distance am I
looking in a straight line from left to right and front to back?
According to Michael Barron's "Auditorium acoustics and architectural
design" (2009), a large stage for a full orchestra should be at most
18m wide and 12m deep (obviously this leaves some room around the
ensemble, and things will be still more compact if wood, brass and
percussion are absent). Barron also gives figures of 1.25m^2 per
violin/viola, 1.5m^2 for a cello, and 1.8m^2 for a double bass.
Cheers, Tim
7:57 p.m.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 04:14:33PM +0100, Ffanci Silvain wrote:
Hey hey everyone,
I want to put a string section in a quasi 3d room. I've looked up
the classical seating of a string section, but now I'm wondering
about real distances in a concert hall. Assuming I have a 60
instrumentalist string section with 1st and 2nd violins, violas,
celli and double basses. At what distance am I looking in a straight
line from left to right and front to back?
An sector of 120 to 180 degrees with a radius of 5 to 8 meters
would be typical, including woodwinds in the far central part.
Depends on available space, size of the string section, and
eventual presence of soloist. Brass and percussion are usually
spread out behind the strings.
Alternative placement of some sections is possible, e.g. celli
and second violins swapped.
Ciao,
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18 Jan
18 Jan
9:23 a.m.
Hi,
On 17/01/2016 16:14, Ffanci Silvain wrote:
Hey hey everyone,
I want to put a string section in a quasi 3d room.
Does this mean you are dealing with real musicians or that you are
placing sounds in a virtual 3d space?
If the use case is the latter, and therefore I would guess a 3d
rendering, I would do a bit of research as you have done but also
'follow my ear'.
My two cents.
Lorenzo.
I've looked up the
classical seating of a string section, but now I'm
wondering about real
distances in a concert hall. Assuming I have a 60 instrumentalist string
section with 1st and 2nd violins, violas, celli and double basses. At
what distance am I looking in a straight line from left to right and
front to back? From there I can work out the finer points.
Thanks for any help!
Ta-ta
----
Ffanci
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* Twitter: http://twitter.com/ffanci_silvain
* GitHub: https://github.com/fsilvain
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