G'day, This is probably a dumb question, but I haven't found an answer yet because it is relatively hard to google it. I've two audio devices, and once in every ten or so boots the discovery order is reversed, with the SB Live 5.1 card detected in position 1 instead of position 0. # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Live ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live 5.1 SB Live 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xe800, irq 17 1 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 SiS SI7012 with ALC655 at 0xe000, irq 16 # lspci | vi 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) # lsmod | vi snd_intel8x0 snd_emu10k1 What I have tried is the following fragment in /etc/modules: alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1 Yet still the problem happens. Kernel: 2.6.20.7 udev: 0.103-2 Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Etch 4.0 Alternate solution would be a way to specify to xmms and xine what Alsa device to use, by identity rather than position. -- James Cameron mailto:quozl@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/