12 Jul
2005
12 Jul
'05
7:09 a.m.
It's me again.
I've been going back over some stuff I did a while ago, and found
something that I decided to take in a slightly different direction.
I have a rough cut of the new track at
http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/sv_WIP.ogg
What I want now is a collaborator or collaborators. Mainly vocals and
guitars.
There're plenty of open spaces in the track for focusing on the new
parts, so you can show off in the breaks.
If anyone would care to have a listen and knock up some parts, I'll
fiddle with putting them in the track.
Vocalist must bring own "lyrical skillz" - I've tried writing lyrics
before and ended up with the most puerile and naive drivel.
I hope someone takes the bait, er, I mean opportunity; it would be
interesting to see how something like this would work.
Thanks,
James
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
12 Jul
12 Jul
7:33 a.m.
Hi James,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:20:30AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
I've been going back over some stuff I did a while
ago, and found
something that I decided to take in a slightly different direction.
I have a rough cut of the new track at
http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/sv_WIP.ogg
What I want now is a collaborator or collaborators. Mainly vocals and
guitars.
There're plenty of open spaces in the track for focusing on the new
parts, so you can show off in the breaks.
If anyone would care to have a listen and knock up some parts, I'll
fiddle with putting them in the track.
Vocalist must bring own "lyrical skillz" - I've tried writing lyrics
before and ended up with the most puerile and naive drivel.
I hope someone takes the bait, er, I mean opportunity; it would be
interesting to see how something like this would work.
I downloaded it, and I kinda
like it. I think I can come up with some
guitars to that. I did some fiddling around to the track Thorsten posted
some time ago, but did not post anything of it, since I was not that
satisfied with my playing on it.
My vocal abilities are just enough to sing some background in my band.
So I won't do any vocals for that. But in order to get along with vocals
it would be better for a potential vocalist to come with some lines
first, so I can accompany them and we don't get into each others way.
I'll take the track home tonight and see with what I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
Christian
--
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Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
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10:07 a.m.
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
Hi James,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:20:30AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
I agree that working together rather than in turn is probably best, I
wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a vocalist.
Singing is a lot more personal than playing or composing and I think
people will be far less likely to come forward and bare themselves.
I hope somone proves me wrong, of course!
I've been going back over some stuff I did a
while ago, and found
something that I decided to take in a slightly different direction.
I have a rough cut of the new track at
http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/sv_WIP.ogg
What I want now is a collaborator or collaborators. Mainly vocals and
guitars.
There're plenty of open spaces in the track for focusing on the new
parts, so you can show off in the breaks.
If anyone would care to have a listen and knock up some parts, I'll
fiddle with putting them in the track.
Vocalist must bring own "lyrical skillz" - I've tried writing lyrics
before and ended up with the most puerile and naive drivel.
I hope someone takes the bait, er, I mean opportunity; it would be
interesting to see how something like this would work.
I downloaded it, and I
kinda like it. I think I can come up with some
guitars to that. I did some fiddling around to the track Thorsten posted
some time ago, but did not post anything of it, since I was not that
satisfied with my playing on it.
My vocal abilities are just enough to sing some background in my band.
So I won't do any vocals for that. But in order to get along with vocals
it would be better for a potential vocalist to come with some lines
first, so I can accompany them and we don't get into each others way. I'll take the track home tonight and see with what
I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
James
Christian
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
12:21 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
Really nice backing track!
In my opinion, the best vocal accompaniment to this track would be a
spoken voice piece, preferably with a scottish accent (think a cross
between Iggy Pop and Prolapse in their more laid-back phases, possibly
Coil). If I think of some good lyrics I will certainly have a go, but
I don't think South-Eastern UK accent is quite so up there in the cool
stakes!
I'm sure there are hundreds of other ways to go with this track
though. It will be interesting to see what people come up with.
James
Hi James,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:20:30AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
I agree that working together rather than in turn is probably best, I
wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a vocalist.
Singing is a lot more personal than playing or composing and I think
people will be far less likely to come forward and bare themselves.
I hope somone proves me wrong, of course!
I've been going back over some stuff I did a
while ago, and found
something that I decided to take in a slightly different direction.
I have a rough cut of the new track at
http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/sv_WIP.ogg
What I want now is a collaborator or collaborators. Mainly vocals and
guitars.
There're plenty of open spaces in the track for focusing on the new
parts, so you can show off in the breaks.
If anyone would care to have a listen and knock up some parts, I'll
fiddle with putting them in the track.
Vocalist must bring own "lyrical skillz" - I've tried writing lyrics
before and ended up with the most puerile and naive drivel.
I hope someone takes the bait, er, I mean opportunity; it would be
interesting to see how something like this would work.
I downloaded it, and I
kinda like it. I think I can come up with some
guitars to that. I did some fiddling around to the track Thorsten posted
some time ago, but did not post anything of it, since I was not that
satisfied with my playing on it.
My vocal abilities are just enough to sing some background in my band.
So I won't do any vocals for that. But in order to get along with vocals
it would be better for a potential vocalist to come with some lines
first, so I can accompany them and we don't get into each others way. I'll take the track home tonight and see with
what I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
2:10 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 02:19PM +0000, jmstone(a)dsl.pipex.com spake thus:
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Interesting. I was thinking more like muffled, soulful, slow-paced
singing with lingering notes, cutting to sparkly, faster, more urgent
pieces when everything crashes back in. Sigur Ros meets Portishead
and Bjork.
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
Really nice backing track!
In my opinion, the best vocal accompaniment to this track would be a
spoken voice piece, preferably with a scottish accent (think a cross
between Iggy Pop and Prolapse in their more laid-back phases, possibly
Coil). Hi James,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:20:30AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
I agree that working together rather than in turn is probably best, I
wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a vocalist.
Singing is a lot more personal than playing or composing and I think
people will be far less likely to come forward and bare themselves.
I hope somone proves me wrong, of course!
I've been going back over some stuff I did a
while ago, and found
something that I decided to take in a slightly different direction.
I have a rough cut of the new track at
http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/sv_WIP.ogg
What I want now is a collaborator or collaborators. Mainly vocals and
guitars.
There're plenty of open spaces in the track for focusing on the new
parts, so you can show off in the breaks.
If anyone would care to have a listen and knock up some parts, I'll
fiddle with putting them in the track.
Vocalist must bring own "lyrical skillz" - I've tried writing lyrics
before and ended up with the most puerile and naive drivel.
I hope someone takes the bait, er, I mean opportunity; it would be
interesting to see how something like this would work.
I downloaded it, and I
kinda like it. I think I can come up with some
guitars to that. I did some fiddling around to the track Thorsten posted
some time ago, but did not post anything of it, since I was not that
satisfied with my playing on it.
My vocal abilities are just enough to sing some background in my band.
So I won't do any vocals for that. But in order to get along with vocals
it would be better for a potential vocalist to come with some lines
first, so I can accompany them and we don't get into each others way. I'll take the track home tonight and see with
what I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
If I think of some good lyrics I will certainly have a
go, but
I don't think South-Eastern UK accent is quite so up there in the cool
stakes!
Haha, well it's better than what I've got - High-speed dumb-sounding
Blackcountry.
Ow am ya?
I'm sure there are hundreds of other ways to go
with this track
though. It will be interesting to see what people come up with.
Yup, I can't wait.
James
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
13 Jul
13 Jul
1:22 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 02:19PM +0000,
jmstone(a)dsl.pipex.com spake thus:
ok, i've got some lyrics to this ... just a few more lines ... gonna
just bring this into ardour for the moment and try singing it ... post
it in a few hours (maybe .... these kids are driving me nuts!).
not sure if it fits any of the styles mentioned, and as i've said before
- "i can't sing" - but anyway ...
shayne
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Interesting. I was thinking more like muffled, soulful, slow-paced
singing with lingering notes, cutting to sparkly, faster, more urgent
pieces when everything crashes back in. Sigur Ros meets Portishead
and Bjork.
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
Really nice backing track!
In my opinion, the best vocal accompaniment to this track would be a
spoken voice piece, preferably with a scottish accent (think a cross
between Iggy Pop and Prolapse in their more laid-back phases, possibly
Coil). Hi James,
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:20:30AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
>I've been going back over some stuff I did a while ago, and found
>something that I decided to take in a slightly different direction.
>
>I have a rough cut of the new track at
>http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/sv_WIP.ogg
>
>What I want now is a collaborator or collaborators. Mainly vocals and
>guitars.
>
>There're plenty of open spaces in the track for focusing on the new
>parts, so you can show off in the breaks.
>
>If anyone would care to have a listen and knock up some parts, I'll
>fiddle with putting them in the track.
>
>Vocalist must bring own "lyrical skillz" - I've tried writing lyrics
>before and ended up with the most puerile and naive drivel.
>
>I hope someone takes the bait, er, I mean opportunity; it would be
>interesting to see how something like this would work.
I downloaded it, and I kinda like it. I think I can come up with some
guitars to that. I did some fiddling around to the track Thorsten posted
some time ago, but did not post anything of it, since I was not that
satisfied with my playing on it.
My vocal abilities are just enough to sing some background in my band.
So I won't do any vocals for that. But in order to get along with vocals
it would be better for a potential vocalist to come with some lines
first, so I can accompany them and we don't get into each others way.
I agree that working together rather than in turn is probably best, I
wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a vocalist.
Singing is a lot more personal than playing or composing and I think
people will be far less likely to come forward and bare themselves.
I hope somone proves me wrong, of course!
I'll take the track home tonight and see with
what I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
If I think of some good lyrics I will certainly
have a go, but
I don't think South-Eastern UK accent is quite so up there in the cool
stakes!
Haha, well it's better than what I've got - High-speed dumb-sounding
Blackcountry.
Ow am ya?
I'm sure there are hundreds of other ways to
go with this track
though. It will be interesting to see what people come up with.
Yup, I can't wait.
6:11 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 01:22PM +1000, Shayne O'Connor spake thus:
ok, i've got some lyrics to this ... just a few more lines ... gonna
just bring this into ardour for the moment and try singing it ... post
it in a few hours (maybe .... these kids are driving me nuts!).
not sure if it fits any of the styles mentioned, and as i've said before
- "i can't sing" - but anyway ...
Pffft. That's a bit of a fib. We've all heard you ;)
shayne
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
14 Jul
14 Jul
3:33 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Re: Call for collaboration
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:21:10 +0100, james-ngfRbgMv8TwV8AREJM4DLQ wrote:
Yes well if I sounded like Bjork I would be very happy (if I was a girl!).
I have recorded my version.. Almost random lyrics inspired by the
instrumental track.. slightly spooky in my opinion.. Cross between
Coil and Tarwater. Recorded into Ardour on a cheapo computer mike and then
compressed with Barry's Satan Maximizer, passed through a low-pass filter
and then through gverb with 100% dry component as well as a 6 sec. reverb.
listen to it here:
http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/sv_WIP_into_the_night.ogg
I think this would be cool!
Should be good.. Can't wait to hear the sung version!
James
In my opinion,
the best vocal accompaniment to this track would be a
spoken voice piece, preferably with a scottish accent (think a cross
between Iggy Pop and Prolapse in their more laid-back phases, possibly
Coil).
Interesting. I was thinking more like muffled, soulful, slow-paced
singing with lingering notes, cutting to sparkly, faster, more urgent
pieces when everything crashes back in. Sigur Ros meets Portishead and
Bjork.
If I think of
some good lyrics I will certainly have a go, but I don't
think South-Eastern UK accent is quite so up there in the cool stakes!
Haha, well it's better than what I've got - High-speed dumb-sounding
Blackcountry.
Ow am ya? I'm sure
there are hundreds of other ways to go with this track though.
It will be interesting to see what people come up with.
Yup, I can't wait.
13 Jul
13 Jul
6:25 a.m.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:17:42PM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
Ok, see what I came up
with on
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP_guitar.ogg
I have to apologize first for the bad timing, but it's been late at
night, after a hard work in the lab.
This is just some ideas I had, I don't know if this is what you
expected. Now that Shayne wrote that he might have some lyrics for that,
I would give it another try after I have something with vocals.
I was kind of unsure whether to do some more clean comping with delay,
or more of a full-on distorted rock guitar. So tell me what you think.
Christian
--
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Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll take the track home tonight and see with
what I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
7:11 a.m.
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 10:25AM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:17:42PM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Bloody hell!
That sounds amazing! It's not what I was expecting at all, but I'm
very very excited about it.
Do you have the guitar parts recorded separately? I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
I love where this is going.
I wonder what Shayne's been up to?
I'm so excited!
Yay!
James
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
Ok, see what I came up
with on
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP_guitar.ogg
I have to apologize first for the bad timing, but it's been late at
night, after a hard work in the lab.
This is just some ideas I had, I don't know if this is what you
expected. Now that Shayne wrote that he might have some lyrics for that,
I would give it another try after I have something with vocals.
I was kind of unsure whether to do some more clean comping with delay,
or more of a full-on distorted rock guitar. So tell me what you think.
Christian I'll take the track home tonight and see with
what I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
7:33 a.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:22:13AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
That sounds amazing! It's not what I was
expecting at all, but I'm
very very excited about it.
ok, then I'll try to get some better tracks over
the weekend, if you
like to.
Do you have the guitar parts recorded separately?
I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
It's all done in ardour.
6 tracks of guitars (3 guitars, each stereo). I
can put up the tarred session for you, but this would have to wait to my
lunch break.
Christian
--
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Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
7:46 a.m.
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
No rush - I'm off to work now myself, and probably won't have much
time until the weekend now. I have to prepare for a job interview on
Friday and a conference next week. In fact, two conferences, but I
have someone else to do the presenting for me on the second. If I get
everything done by the weekend, I can then spend some more time on
this track.
And just in case it wasn't clear from my last mail: I'm so excited!
James
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:22:13AM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
I erally like what you have already. I know you said your timing was
imperfect, but that's just a bonus for me - if I want human-like
timing, I have to work at it to stop it being perfectly timed. A
little bit of organic sound goes a long way!
That sounds amazing! It's not what I was
expecting at all, but I'm
very very excited about it.
ok, then I'll try to get some better tracks over
the weekend, if you
like to. Do you have
the guitar parts recorded separately? I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
It's all done in
ardour. 6 tracks of guitars (3 guitars, each stereo). I
can put up the tarred session for you, but this would have to wait to my
lunch break. Christian
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
9:57 a.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:57:32AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
No rush - I'm off to work now myself, and probably won't have
much
time until the weekend now. I have to prepare for a job interview on
Friday and a conference next week. In fact, two conferences, but I
have someone else to do the presenting for me on the second. If I get
everything done by the weekend, I can then spend some more time on
this track. ok, the session is at
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP.tar.bz2
Everybody else: Please do NOT download this session if you do not plan
to participate. It's roughly 500 MB, and I will be in trouble if too
many people downlad it.
Christian
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I erally like what you have already. I know you said
your timing was
imperfect, but that's just a bonus for me - if I want human-like
timing, I have to work at it to stop it being perfectly timed. A
little bit of organic sound goes a long way!
Hm, spending more time making music by
hand rather than by computer, I
usually try to play as precise as possible. That's something that won't
work after a hard day. So the main problem is that I am not completely
happy with what I've played. If that's fine for you, so be it.
Do you have the guitar parts recorded separately?
I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
It's all done in
ardour. 6 tracks of guitars (3 guitars, each stereo). I
can put up the tarred session for you, but this would have to wait to my
lunch break. 
11:24 a.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 01:57:51PM +0200, Christian Schumann wrote:
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP.tar.bz2
Everybody else: Please do NOT download this session if you do not plan
to participate. It's roughly 500 MB, and I will be in trouble if too
many people downlad it.
You could probably save the tracks as flac couldn't you to make it
smaller?
Jeremiah
12:32 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 08:18:55AM -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 01:57:51PM +0200, Christian
Schumann wrote:
I uploaded the complete ardour session, including multiple takes etc.
Ardour uses wav files, and I decided to upload the session so James has
all the sync info.
Christian
--
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Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP.tar.bz2
Everybody else: Please do NOT download this session if you do not plan
to participate. It's roughly 500 MB, and I will be in trouble if too
many people downlad it.
You could probably save the tracks as flac couldn't you to make it
smaller?
12:39 p.m.
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 04:32PM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 08:18:55AM -0500, Jeremiah
Benham wrote:
Ahh, right. I probably won't use ardour anyway, so in future flac
would be fine - save your bandwidth. I'm about 10% done with the
download now already, so it's not worth worrying about now, unless
you're that keen to conserve bandwidth. If so, just kill the
download, or if it's not your server, let me know quickly and I'll do
it from this end.
James
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 01:57:51PM +0200,
Christian Schumann wrote:
I uploaded the complete ardour session, including multiple takes etc.
Ardour uses wav files, and I decided to upload the session so James has
all the sync info.
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP.tar.bz2
Everybody else: Please do NOT download this session if you do not plan
to participate. It's roughly 500 MB, and I will be in trouble if too
many people downlad it.
You could probably save the tracks as flac couldn't you to make it
smaller? Christian
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
1:26 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Christian Schumann wrote:
I uploaded the complete ardour session, including
multiple takes etc.
Ardour uses wav files, and I decided to upload the session so James has
all the sync info.
Yeah then you can use flac123 to convert it back to wav.
flac123 -w guitar_track1.wav guitar_track1.flac
A bash script can be used to uncompress all of them at once. Then you can also use rsync
to update additional changes to conserve badwidth perhaps. cvs might be usefull on a
project like this.
Jeremiah
2:18 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:21:00AM -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Christian
Schumann wrote:
ok. I haven't looked at falc up to now, and I have not used
cvs except
for anonymous cvs checkouts. Has someone experience on that?
Christian
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Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I uploaded the complete ardour session, including
multiple takes etc.
Ardour uses wav files, and I decided to upload the session so James has
all the sync info.
Yeah then you can use flac123 to convert it back to wav.
flac123 -w guitar_track1.wav guitar_track1.flac
A bash script can be used to uncompress all of them at once. Then you can also use rsync
to update additional changes to conserve badwidth perhaps. cvs might be usefull on a
project like this. 
3:11 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 06:18:45PM +0200, Christian Schumann wrote:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:21:00AM -0500, Jeremiah
Benham wrote:
cvs might be useful for the session file, but I doubt it will be
much help for the huge binaries.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:32:34PM +0200,
Christian Schumann wrote:
ok. I haven't looked at falc up to now, and I have not used
cvs except
for anonymous cvs checkouts. Has someone experience on that? I uploaded the complete ardour session, including
multiple takes etc.
Ardour uses wav files, and I decided to upload the session so James has
all the sync info.
Yeah then you can use flac123 to convert it back to wav.
flac123 -w guitar_track1.wav guitar_track1.flac
A bash script can be used to uncompress all of them at once. Then you can also use rsync
to update additional changes to conserve badwidth perhaps. cvs might be usefull on a
project like this. 
4:57 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
Hi,
what about a small shell script (or two) which takes an
ardour-session-dir, compresses all the audiofiles with flac (its
lossless isn't it?) and then tars the dir. On the other side it untars
the dir, decompresses all the flacs to waves and your session is ready
to be loaded in ardour. Additionally the peak-files could be removed
(they will be regenerated cause the wav-file is newer than the peak
file).
What SEX is missing is the ability to join two branches of music.
Example: A starts the song with some tracks, B takes it and adds the
bass in an own snapshot. But while B is doing this, A also adds
tracks. After A loaded the snapshot from B, he can listen and think
about both versions but the info when B's tracks and recordings start
are not usable in A's snapshot. Only the pure files can be used but
what if the bass-track of B is in fact several takes which don't clue
on beats?
BTW: I wouldn't use CVS for ardour-sessions. Every VCS (version
control system) sucks when it comes to big files. And CVS is so
oldschool...
Arnold
--
Wenn man mit Raubkopien Bands wie Brosis oder Britney Spears wirklich
verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen Stapel Brenner und
einen Sack Rohlinge kaufen.
5:12 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 20:57 +0200, Arnold Krille wrote:
BTW: I wouldn't use CVS for ardour-sessions. Every
VCS (version
control system) sucks when it comes to big files. And CVS is so
oldschool...
I hear there's this program called "BitKeeper"...
Lee
11:18 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 03:12PM -0400, Lee Revell spake thus:
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 20:57 +0200, Arnold Krille
wrote:
Doesn't some Swedish or Finnish guy use it? Nobody important, anyway.
BTW: I wouldn't use CVS for ardour-sessions.
Every VCS (version
control system) sucks when it comes to big files. And CVS is so
oldschool...
I hear there's this program called "BitKeeper"... Lee
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
11:50 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 02:28:48AM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 03:12PM -0400, Lee Revell
spake thus:
That "unimportant" guy no longer uses it...
http://www.forbes.com/business/2005/05/25/cz_dl_0525linux.html
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 20:57 +0200, Arnold Krille
wrote:
Doesn't some Swedish or Finnish guy use it? Nobody important, anyway. BTW: I wouldn't use CVS for ardour-sessions.
Every VCS (version
control system) sucks when it comes to big files. And CVS is so
oldschool...
I hear there's this program called "BitKeeper"... 
10:59 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
what about a small shell script (or two) which takes
an
ardour-session-dir, compresses all the audiofiles
with flac (its
lossless isn't it?) and then tars the dir. On the
other side it untars
the dir, decompresses all the flacs to waves and
your session is ready
to be loaded in ardour. Additionally the peak-files
could be removed
(they will be regenerated cause the wav-file is
newer than the peak
file).
The session average between 1.5 and 2.5gig. My
experience with flac produces about a 30% reduction.
If it's only the bass track that has changed A. I
don't want to transer the entire session and B. I
don't want to manually keep track of changes.
What SEX is missing is the ability to join two
branches of music.
Example: A starts the song with some tracks, B takes
it and adds the
bass in an own snapshot.
In this case B wouldn't create a new snapshot but for
the sake of argument let's follow that course.
But while B is doing this,
A also adds
tracks.
Now we've got snapshotA-v01, snapshotA-v02 and
snapshotB-v01.
After A loaded the snapshot from B, he can
listen and think
about both versions but the info when B's tracks and
recordings start
are not usable in A's snapshot.
Before A can listen to B's snapshot he'd have to pull
that entire snapshot to his local station.
Only the pure files
can be used but
what if the bass-track of B is in fact several takes
which don't clue
on beats?
I think all the problems are prevented by never
creating a new shapshot. The solution is to use Ardour
Playlists.
If I understand B and A are modifying snapshotA-v01 at
the same time. A completes her work which creates what
we'll call snapshotA-v02 and then pulls B's bass track
into that version which produces snashotA-v03.
B has never heard snapshotA-v02. The only manual
intervention in this exchange is A needs to consider
the consequences of modifying the song by asking
himself will whaatever B produces again v01 still work
with v02.
Playlists have a further advantage over snapshots
because Ardour is nondestructive. If you edit the
region view of Playlist "bass" the bass.wav file
remains unmodified and so the only change is to the
snapshot session file "snapshot?-v??". If SEX is
designed properly and I suspect it is only the session
file is exchanged.
IMO the bandwidth that's available today dooms any
scheme that doesn't account for versioning in one way
or another.
Anyway, my description of how SEX works might be
pretty poor but I think the principle idea is sound.
Do not create new snapshots. A snapshot is the
equivalent of a new song. Use playlists and bear in
mind that everyone participating needs to think about
the consequences of their actions.
When we all agree that the basic tracks are poored
into concrete then we begin adding our solos, vocals,
etc. In order to modify the basic tracks everyone
involved needs to complete their current work, update
to the current version and then all Playlists are fair
game again. If we have a descension amongst the
participants then the song can be forked. heh
Maybe I make sense, maybe I'm wrong about SEX.
Reguardless, I maintain the positon that I like SEX
ron
BTW: I wouldn't use CVS for ardour-sessions.
Every
VCS (version
control system) sucks when it comes to big files.
And CVS is so
oldschool...
Arnold
--
Wenn man mit Raubkopien Bands wie Brosis oder
Britney Spears wirklich
verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen
Stapel Brenner und
einen Sack Rohlinge kaufen.
__________________________________________________
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14 Jul
14 Jul
8:18 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
Hi,
On 7/14/05, R Parker <rtp405(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I think all the problems are prevented by never
creating a new shapshot. The solution is to use Ardour
Playlists.
/me is reading about playlists before the next usage of ardour...
Arnold
--
Wenn man mit Raubkopien Bands wie Brosis oder Britney Spears wirklich
verhindern könnte, würde ich mir noch heute einen Stapel Brenner und
einen Sack Rohlinge kaufen.
9:44 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Call for collaborators
Hi,
I have been contacted by the editor of a (print) music tech magazine. He
is interested in running a feature about musical collaboration on (and
via) the internet. As this is not something I am directly involved with
I am hoping to point him toward someone who is. Considering the nature
of the posts on this list in the last few days, where better to ask?! Is
anybody interested? If so, mail me off the list, with your experience
and particular interest.
I'll just take this oppurtunity to thank all again for their interest
and help with opensourcemusic.info. Since the first few posts on this
list about, the site has seen over a thousand new visitors! That is just
awesome. My sincerest apologies to any who I have not replied to yet. I
am working a lot at the moment, so I am getting very little time to go
online, or enjoy this wonderful sunshine.
Great news about the magazine interest though eh? Perhaps we could
provide an online list showcase?
John
Arnold Krille wrote:
Hi,
On 7/14/05, R Parker <rtp405(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I think all the problems are prevented by never
creating a new shapshot. The solution is to use Ardour
Playlists.
/me is reading about playlists before the next usage of ardour...
Arnold
13 Jul
13 Jul
11:16 p.m.
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 06:18PM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:21:00AM -0500, Jeremiah
Benham wrote:
Well, I do. I use it a lot, but by homw machine has such a slow
upstream it's not worth it. The machines I normally use for CVS would
be great, except they belong to my employers (a UK university with a
bit of a fetish for controlling what we do with our computers) and
can't really get away with letting other people have that kind of
access.
I think perhaps we'd be better just using flac for exchange of source
sounds, swapping back to wav when needed.
James
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:32:34PM +0200,
Christian Schumann wrote:
ok. I haven't looked at falc up to now, and I have not used
cvs except
for anonymous cvs checkouts. Has someone experience on that? I uploaded the complete ardour session, including
multiple takes etc.
Ardour uses wav files, and I decided to upload the session so James has
all the sync info.
Yeah then you can use flac123 to convert it back to wav.
flac123 -w guitar_track1.wav guitar_track1.flac
A bash script can be used to uncompress all of them at once. Then you can also use rsync
to update additional changes to conserve badwidth perhaps. cvs might be usefull on a
project like this. Christian
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
12:37 p.m.
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 01:57PM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
No rush - I'm off to work now myself, and probably won't have
much
time until the weekend now. I have to prepare for a job interview on
Friday and a conference next week. In fact, two conferences, but I
have someone else to do the presenting for me on the second. If I get
everything done by the weekend, I can then spend some more time on
this track. ok, the session is at
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP.tar.bz2
Everybody else: Please do NOT download this session if you do not plan
to participate. It's roughly 500 MB, and I will be in trouble if too
many people downlad it.
Eeek! It's on it's way to me at the moment. Is each track a separate
audio file that can be overlaid? Or have you chopped out the
silences?
Thanks for this,
James
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:57:32AM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
I like it, but it's up to you - you're the guitarist.
I erally like what you have already. I know you
said your timing was
imperfect, but that's just a bonus for me - if I want human-like
timing, I have to work at it to stop it being perfectly timed. A
little bit of organic sound goes a long way!
Hm, spending more time making music
by hand rather than by computer, I
usually try to play as precise as possible. That's something that won't
work after a hard day. So the main problem is that I am not completely
happy with what I've played. If that's fine for you, so be it. Do you have
the guitar parts recorded separately? I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
It's all done in
ardour. 6 tracks of guitars (3 guitars, each stereo). I
can put up the tarred session for you, but this would have to wait to my
lunch break. Christian
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
2:17 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 03:48:09PM +0100, james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Eeek! It's on it's way to me at the moment.
Is each track a separate
audio file that can be overlaid? Or have you chopped out the
silences?
I have enough bandwidth, but not for hundereds of downloads.
I have done nothing to the files, if I recorded silence, it's still
there. If you want to cancel the download, do so. But if I upload the
single files from the tracks, you won't have sync of the different
guitar layers.
So if you can open the ardour session, it would be best to download it,
and tell me afterwards, so I can take the files from my server.
Christian
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
11:12 p.m.
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 06:17PM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 03:48:09PM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
The download is done. I haven't managed to take a look yet, because
things are a little hectic. I'll have a look and play ASAP.
Thanks again for this.
James
Eeek! It's on it's way to me at the
moment. Is each track a separate
audio file that can be overlaid? Or have you chopped out the
silences?
I have enough bandwidth, but not for hundereds of downloads.
I have done nothing to the files, if I recorded silence, it's still
there. If you want to cancel the download, do so. But if I upload the
single files from the tracks, you won't have sync of the different
guitar layers.
So if you can open the ardour session, it would be best to download it,
and tell me afterwards, so I can take the files from my server. Christian
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
1:59 p.m.
Please do NOT download this session
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
if you do not plan
to participate. It's roughly 500 MB, and I will be
in trouble if too
many people downlad it.
Looks like you guys could use Ardour Session Exchange
(SEX):
http://www.taybin.com/software/sex/
ron
Christian
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische
Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de |
Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 |
http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663
Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
2:20 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 08:59:24AM -0700, R Parker wrote:
Please do NOT download this session
Thanks for the pointer.
I had the existence of something like that in the back of my head. But
the audio files need to get there in the first place.
I will try to get into it when I have some more time over the weekend.
Christian
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Mail: schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de | Fachbereich Physik
Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de
Fax.: 0631/205-3902 |
Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
if you do not plan
to participate. It's roughly 500 MB, and I will be
in trouble if too
many people downlad it.
Looks like you guys could use Ardour Session Exchange
(SEX):
http://www.taybin.com/software/sex/
10:51 p.m.
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 10:25AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
this is just a *very* rough copy of what i hear for this track ...
haven't had *any* time to polish it or learn how to sing it properly:
hence, some of the more, er, "intense' parts may sound a little
strained, etc ... but i wanted to throw this up so others could give me
feedback, or if they wanted to do backing tracks, or even sing it
themselves ...
here are the lyrics:
Even though we had to wait,
the shadows were receding
along the shorelines of Fate.
You turned just to say that you hate me.
ooh ooh ooh hey hoo
Last time we attempted to leave,
the tide had been stronger
and the river was no longer
than our love.
Even though our lips are sown
Our bodies keep breathing,
We keep leaking, from our bones,
Centuries of Meaning.
So much longer now
So much longer now
this is fun!
shayne
ps (it's just uploading now, but i've got to go out - so give it ten
minutes if it don't work)
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:17:42PM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Bloody hell!
That sounds amazing! It's not what I was expecting at all, but I'm
very very excited about it.
Do you have the guitar parts recorded separately? I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
I love where this is going.
I wonder what Shayne's been up to?
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
Ok, see what I came up with on
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP_guitar.ogg
I have to apologize first for the bad timing, but it's been late at
night, after a hard work in the lab.
This is just some ideas I had, I don't know if this is what you
expected. Now that Shayne wrote that he might have some lyrics for that,
I would give it another try after I have something with vocals.
I was kind of unsure whether to do some more clean comping with delay,
or more of a full-on distorted rock guitar. So tell me what you think.
Christian I'll take the track home tonight and see with
what I can come up. I
think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
14 Jul
14 Jul
2:06 p.m.
On Thu, 14 Jul, 2005 at 10:51AM +1000, Shayne O'Connor spake thus:
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Nice lyrics! I know you say this is just a rough cut, but could I
have the vocal track as it is anyway? I can start piecing things
together maybe at the weekend and get something sorted with guitars
and vocals in the mix from the original - which should sound better
than just everlaying them because I can make room for them properly.
Good job! I think these will fit well with the Christian's guitar
part.
I wish I had time to do this today, but I really don't.
Thanks,
James
On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 10:25AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
this is just a *very* rough copy of what i hear for this track ...
haven't had *any* time to polish it or learn how to sing it properly:
hence, some of the more, er, "intense' parts may sound a little
strained, etc ... but i wanted to throw this up so others could give me
feedback, or if they wanted to do backing tracks, or even sing it
themselves ... On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:17:42PM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Bloody hell!
That sounds amazing! It's not what I was expecting at all, but I'm
very very excited about it.
Do you have the guitar parts recorded separately? I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
I love where this is going.
I wonder what Shayne's been up to?
On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
>I'll take the track home tonight and see with what I can come up. I
>think I can post that tomorrow.
That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
give us less room to explore.
I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
Ok, see what I came up with on
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP_guitar.ogg
I have to apologize first for the bad timing, but it's been late at
night, after a hard work in the lab.
This is just some ideas I had, I don't know if this is what you
expected. Now that Shayne wrote that he might have some lyrics for that,
I would give it another try after I have something with vocals.
I was kind of unsure whether to do some more clean comping with delay,
or more of a full-on distorted rock guitar. So tell me what you think.
Christian here are the lyrics:
Even though we had to wait,
the shadows were receding
along the shorelines of Fate.
You turned just to say that you hate me.
ooh ooh ooh hey hoo
Last time we attempted to leave,
the tide had been stronger
and the river was no longer
than our love.
Even though our lips are sown
Our bodies keep breathing,
We keep leaking, from our bones,
Centuries of Meaning.
So much longer now
So much longer now
this is fun!
shayne
ps (it's just uploading now, but i've got to go out - so give it ten
minutes if it don't work)
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
15 Jul
15 Jul
5:50 a.m.
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul, 2005 at 10:51AM +1000, Shayne
O'Connor spake thus:
ok, i redid the vocals - sound a *bit* better - but seeing as you wanted
the first ones, i've included both in a tarball:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_wip_vocals.tgz
there's two .flac files in there, vocal_1 is the first vocals i did,
vocal_2 ... you guessed it ... these are totally dry and have only had
some normalising in the way of processing - please, at least put some
reverb on them :D
i'd gotten my inspiration for the lyrics and melody before hearing
christian's guitar, and i didn't want to listen to it that much in case
it put me off what i'd come up with - in any case, between my
contribution, christian's, james' and yours should be able to mix up
something pretty damn good (most of james' stuff comes before or after
what i sing, i think, so it could work well ... i don't know).
also, i've always liked my voice doubled-up ... here's a quick mix with
my two vocal versions and some reverb:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
have fun
shayne
btw - the .tgz file is 11mb ... let me know if there's any problems, or
anything else you need.
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Nice lyrics! I know you say this is just a rough cut, but could I
have the vocal track as it is anyway? I can start piecing things
together maybe at the weekend and get something sorted with guitars
and vocals in the mix from the original - which should sound better
than just everlaying them because I can make room for them properly.
Good job! I think these will fit well with the Christian's guitar
part.
I wish I had time to do this today, but I really don't. On Wed, 13 Jul, 2005 at 10:25AM +0200, Christian
Schumann spake thus:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
this is just a *very* rough copy of what i hear for this track ...
haven't had *any* time to polish it or learn how to sing it properly:
hence, some of the more, er, "intense' parts may sound a little
strained, etc ... but i wanted to throw this up so others could give me
feedback, or if they wanted to do backing tracks, or even sing it
themselves ... On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:17:42PM +0100,
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 11:33AM +0200, Christian Schumann spake thus:
>
>
>>I'll take the track home tonight and see with what I can come up. I
>>think I can post that tomorrow.
>
>That's great. I very nearly wrote about what kind of thing I'm
>looking for in the original mail, but then decided not to. If I
>specified the kind of sound I'm after, it would influence people and
>give us less room to explore.
>
>I'll share later, of course and maybe what I'm expecting and what you
>intend to do will match up. Either way, it should be fun.
Ok, see what I came up with on
http://maitre.physik.uni-kl.de/~schumann/sv_WIP_guitar.ogg
I have to apologize first for the bad timing, but it's been late at
night, after a hard work in the lab.
This is just some ideas I had, I don't know if this is what you
expected. Now that Shayne wrote that he might have some lyrics for that,
I would give it another try after I have something with vocals.
I was kind of unsure whether to do some more clean comping with delay,
or more of a full-on distorted rock guitar. So tell me what you think.
Christian
Bloody hell!
That sounds amazing! It's not what I was expecting at all, but I'm
very very excited about it.
Do you have the guitar parts recorded separately? I'll put them in
with the rest of the stuff, get the levels right and shufty things
around so that they get the space they need in places.
I love where this is going.
I wonder what Shayne's been up to?
10:47 a.m.
On Fri, 15 Jul, 2005 at 05:50PM +1000, Shayne O'Connor spake thus:
<snip>
I really just meant that I can play with them until you have a
recording you're happy with, and then do it all "properly".
Good job! I
think these will fit well with the Christian's guitar
part.
I wish I had time to do this today, but I really don't.
ok, i redid the vocals - sound a *bit* better - but seeing as you wanted
the first ones, i've included both in a tarball:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_wip_vocals.tgz there's two .flac files in there, vocal_1 is the
first vocals i did,
vocal_2 ... you guessed it ... these are totally dry and have only had
some normalising in the way of processing - please, at least put some
reverb on them :D
No problem.
i'd gotten my inspiration for the lyrics and
melody before hearing
christian's guitar, and i didn't want to listen to it that much in case
it put me off what i'd come up with - in any case, between my
contribution, christian's, james' and yours should be able to mix up
something pretty damn good (most of james' stuff comes before or after
what i sing, i think, so it could work well ... i don't know).
Errr... I am James.
also, i've always liked my voice doubled-up ...
here's a quick mix with
my two vocal versions and some reverb:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
That does sound good.
have fun
I will, don't worry!
shayne
btw - the .tgz file is 11mb ... let me know if there's any problems, or
anything else you need.
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
12:04 p.m.
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul, 2005 at 05:50PM +1000, Shayne
O'Connor spake thus:
<snip>
I really just meant that I can play with them until you have a
recording you're happy with, and then do it all "properly".
heh ... i know :)
*this* james -
http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/sv_WIP_into_the_night.ogg
it blew the steam out of my sails a bit - it sounds way cooler than mine.
shayne
Good job!
I think these will fit well with the Christian's guitar
part.
I wish I had time to do this today, but I really don't.
ok, i redid the vocals - sound a *bit* better - but seeing as you wanted
the first ones, i've included both in a tarball:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_wip_vocals.tgz there's two .flac files in there, vocal_1 is
the first vocals i did,
vocal_2 ... you guessed it ... these are totally dry and have only had
some normalising in the way of processing - please, at least put some
reverb on them :D
No problem.
i'd gotten my inspiration for the lyrics and
melody before hearing
christian's guitar, and i didn't want to listen to it that much in case
it put me off what i'd come up with - in any case, between my
contribution, christian's, james' and yours should be able to mix up
something pretty damn good (most of james' stuff comes before or after
what i sing, i think, so it could work well ... i don't know).
Errr... I am James.
also, i've always liked my voice doubled-up
... here's a quick mix with
my two vocal versions and some reverb:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
That does sound good.
have fun
I will, don't worry!
shayne
btw - the .tgz file is 11mb ... let me know if there's any problems, or
anything else you need.
2:37 p.m.
On Sat, 16 Jul, 2005 at 12:03AM +1000, Shayne O'Connor spake thus:
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
It's different, but let's see how it goes. I intend to have a play
and see how to fit it all back together. It's an interesting
exercise.
James
On Fri, 15 Jul, 2005 at 05:50PM +1000, Shayne
O'Connor spake thus:
<snip>
I really just meant that I can play with them until you have a
recording you're happy with, and then do it all "properly".
heh ... i know :)
*this* james -
http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/sv_WIP_into_the_night.ogg
it blew the steam out of my sails a bit - it sounds way cooler than mine.
Good job!
I think these will fit well with the Christian's guitar
part.
I wish I had time to do this today, but I really don't.
ok, i redid the vocals - sound a *bit* better - but seeing as you wanted
the first ones, i've included both in a tarball:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_wip_vocals.tgz there's two .flac files in there, vocal_1 is
the first vocals i did,
vocal_2 ... you guessed it ... these are totally dry and have only had
some normalising in the way of processing - please, at least put some
reverb on them :D
No problem.
i'd gotten my inspiration for the lyrics and
melody before hearing
christian's guitar, and i didn't want to listen to it that much in case
it put me off what i'd come up with - in any case, between my
contribution, christian's, james' and yours should be able to mix up
something pretty damn good (most of james' stuff comes before or after
what i sing, i think, so it could work well ... i don't know).
Errr... I am James.
shayne
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
also, i've always liked my voice doubled-up
... here's a quick mix with
my two vocal versions and some reverb:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
That does sound good.
have fun
I will, don't worry!
shayne
btw - the .tgz file is 11mb ... let me know if there's any problems, or
anything else you need.
17 Jul
17 Jul
6:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:03:51 +1000, Shayne O'Connor wrote:
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
Very kind of you Shayne, but I'm not sure I agree with you!
Just in case you would like to use my recording, James, I have uploaded
the wav file to
http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/sv_itn.tar.gz
Please think about adding reverb and compression at least (if not the
low=pass filter)..
Also I was thinking of recording a close harmony part to Shayne's singing,
but depends if I have enough spare time..
James (Stone)
On Fri, 15 Jul, 2005 at 05:50PM +1000, Shayne
O'Connor spake thus:
<snip>
I really just meant that I can play with them until you have a recording
you're happy with, and then do it all "properly".
heh ... i know :)
*this* james -
http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/sv_WIP_into_the_night.ogg
it blew the steam out of my sails a bit - it sounds way cooler than mine.
Good job!
I think these will fit well with the Christian's guitar
part.
I wish I had time to do this today, but I really don't.
ok, i redid the vocals - sound a *bit* better - but seeing as you wanted
the first ones, i've included both in a tarball:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_wip_vocals.tgz there's two .flac files in there, vocal_1 is
the first vocals i did,
vocal_2 ... you guessed it ... these are totally dry and have only had
some normalising in the way of processing - please, at least put some
reverb on them :D
No problem.
i'd gotten my inspiration for the lyrics and
melody before hearing
christian's guitar, and i didn't want to listen to it that much in case
it put me off what i'd come up with - in any case, between my
contribution, christian's, james' and yours should be able to mix up
something pretty damn good (most of james' stuff comes before or after
what i sing, i think, so it could work well ... i don't know).
Errr... I am James.
18 Jul
18 Jul
2:42 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Call for collaboration
also, i've always liked my voice doubled-up ... here's a quick mix with my
two vocal versions and some reverb:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
have fun
I've mixed some of our stuff together and added some (dodgy) harmony here:
http://www.jmstone.dsl.pipex.com/sv_WIP_harmony.ogg
Think it may be getting a bit muddy though.. Probably best to leave the
final version to (other) James.
James
22 Jul
22 Jul
9:33 p.m.
On Fri, 15 Jul, 2005 at 05:50PM +1000, Shayne O'Connor spake thus:
ok, i redid the vocals - sound a *bit* better - but seeing as you wanted
the first ones, i've included both in a tarball:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_wip_vocals.tgz
<snip>
Hi,
Sorry for the delay. I've been busy and now have a new job - yay
me!
Anyway, I came to have a go at mixing evrything together, but your
tarball seems to be corrupted. I've downloaded it twice with the
same problem.
Any chance you can check it and re-upload it?
Ta,
James
there's two .flac files in there, vocal_1 is the
first vocals i did,
vocal_2 ... you guessed it ... these are totally dry and have only had
some normalising in the way of processing - please, at least put some
reverb on them :D
i'd gotten my inspiration for the lyrics and melody before hearing
christian's guitar, and i didn't want to listen to it that much in case
it put me off what i'd come up with - in any case, between my
contribution, christian's, james' and yours should be able to mix up
something pretty damn good (most of james' stuff comes before or after
what i sing, i think, so it could work well ... i don't know).
also, i've always liked my voice doubled-up ... here's a quick mix with
my two vocal versions and some reverb:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.ogg
have fun
shayne
btw - the .tgz file is 11mb ... let me know if there's any problems, or
anything else you need.
--
"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated
Development
That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you."
(By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
24 Jul
24 Jul
8:11 a.m.
james(a)dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul, 2005 at 05:50PM +1000, Shayne
O'Connor spake thus:
hey, sorry for the delay!
try this one:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_WIP_vocals.tar.bz2
shayne
ok, i redid the vocals - sound a *bit* better -
but seeing as you wanted
the first ones, i've included both in a tarball:
http://blog.machinehasnoagenda.com/files/sv_wip_vocals.tgz
<snip>
Hi,
Sorry for the delay. I've been busy and now have a new job - yay
me!
Anyway, I came to have a go at mixing evrything together, but your
tarball seems to be corrupted. I've downloaded it twice with the
same problem.
Any chance you can check it and re-upload it? 
26 Jul
26 Jul
3:56 a.m.
Christian Schumann <schumann(a)physik.uni-kl.de> writes:
see what I came up with on
Haha, wickedly nice;)
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