17 Jun
2004
17 Jun
'04
1:41 p.m.
Hi folks,
Finally took the plunge and bought a 1010LT...
I have it working on my previous MDK 10 setup but still using the old
2.4.22mm2 kernel. Can't seem to get 2.6 to work quite as faithfully yet.
Anyhooo, I was really happy with QAmix before as a nicely laid out mixer
app but alas...it seems it is no good with the Delta??
Is there anything out there other than the regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
R~
17 Jun
17 Jun
2:07 p.m.
On Thursday 17 June 2004 17.31, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
Hi folks,
Finally took the plunge and bought a 1010LT...
I have it working on my previous MDK 10 setup but still using the old
2.4.22mm2 kernel. Can't seem to get 2.6 to work quite as faithfully yet.
Anyhooo, I was really happy with QAmix before as a nicely laid out mixer
app but alas...it seems it is no good with the Delta??
Is there anything out there other than the regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
envy24control, it's bundled in alsa-tools or alsa-utilities.
/Robert
R~
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2:20 p.m.
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 08:54, Robert Jonsson wrote:
On Thursday 17 June 2004 17.31, Russell Hanaghan
wrote:
Thanks /Robert!
Just stumbled across it on Google. Will check it out...
R~
Hi folks,
Finally took the plunge and bought a 1010LT...
I have it working on my previous MDK 10 setup but still using the old
2.4.22mm2 kernel. Can't seem to get 2.6 to work quite as faithfully yet.
Anyhooo, I was really happy with QAmix before as a nicely laid out mixer
app but alas...it seems it is no good with the Delta??
Is there anything out there other than the regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
envy24control, it's bundled in alsa-tools or alsa-utilities.
/Robert
>
> R~
2:18 p.m.
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
Is there anything out there other than the regular
Alsamixergui or Gnome
alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
Try envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you
access all the controls of the soundcard.
d.
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20 Jun
20 Jun
4:36 p.m.
derek holzer wrote:
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
The one thing that threw me off (and I believe this qualifies as a bug
or perhaps confusing feature) is the digital mixer for all the channels
gives two faders per channel. So if you raise both faders on channel
one, it will send the same signal to both speakers. If you raise both
faders on channel two, it will do the same, effectively adding the two
signals together giving an output level twice as loud as what's actually
getting sent to the mixer.
The m-audio mixer app on windows doesn't do this, it just joins channel
1 + 2 when you check a bix, which is why I'm calling it a bug.
-lee
Is there anything out there other than the
regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
Try envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you
access all the controls of the soundcard. 
5:18 p.m.
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 13:27, lee wrote:
derek holzer wrote:
That's a feature. It just takes some getting used to. Normally I raise
left on one channel and right on another. This allows you to mix some
left into right and right into left or swap left and right.
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
The one thing that threw me off (and I believe this qualifies as a bug
or perhaps confusing feature) is the digital mixer for all the channels
gives two faders per channel. So if you raise both faders on channel
one, it will send the same signal to both speakers. If you raise both
faders on channel two, it will do the same, effectively adding the two
signals together giving an output level twice as loud as what's actually
getting sent to the mixer.
Is there anything out there other than the
regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
Try envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you
access all the controls of the soundcard. The m-audio mixer app on windows doesn't do this,
it just joins channel
1 + 2 when you check a bix, which is why I'm calling it a bug.
This just means that you have less flexibility on Windoze. What else is
new?
Jan
21 Jun
21 Jun
2:24 a.m.
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Jan Depner wrote:
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 13:27, lee wrote:
I agree that it's a feature, but IMHO the UI is less than ideal.
I think I'd prefer a single slider and some kind of pan widget.
--
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derek holzer wrote:
That's a feature. It just takes some getting used to. Normally I raise
left on one channel and right on another. This allows you to mix some
left into right and right into left or swap left and right. Russell Hanaghan wrote:
The one thing that threw me off (and I believe this qualifies as a bug
or perhaps confusing feature) is the digital mixer for all the channels
gives two faders per channel. So if you raise both faders on channel
one, it will send the same signal to both speakers. If you raise both
faders on channel two, it will do the same, effectively adding the two
signals together giving an output level twice as loud as what's actually
getting sent to the mixer.
Is there anything out there other than the
regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
Try envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you
access all the controls of the soundcard.
3:24 a.m.
Paul Winkler wrote:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Jan Depner
wrote:
This feature makes the "l+r gang" button on each channel useless, since
the way I have always used analog mixers for stereo tracks is to gang
channel one and channel two, each paned hard left and right so I can
control stereo volume with one slider. As it is now I have to raise two
sliders for stereo tracks, which would work alright with a physical
mixing desk but I only have one mouse pointer.
-lee
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 13:27, lee wrote:
I agree that it's a feature, but IMHO the UI is less than ideal.
I think I'd prefer a single slider and some kind of pan widget.
derek holzer wrote:
That's a feature. It just takes some getting used to. Normally I raise
left on one channel and right on another. This allows you to mix some
left into right and right into left or swap left and right. Russell Hanaghan wrote:
>Is there anything out there other than the regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
>alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
Try envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you
access all the controls of the soundcard.
The one thing that threw me off (and I believe this qualifies as a bug
or perhaps confusing feature) is the digital mixer for all the channels
gives two faders per channel. So if you raise both faders on channel
one, it will send the same signal to both speakers. If you raise both
faders on channel two, it will do the same, effectively adding the two
signals together giving an output level twice as loud as what's actually
getting sent to the mixer.
3:53 a.m.
At Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:15:36 -0400,
lee wrote:
This feature makes the "l+r gang" button on each channel useless,
since the way I have always used analog mixers for stereo tracks is
to gang channel one and channel two, each paned hard left and right
so I can control stereo volume with one slider. As it is now I have
to raise two sliders for stereo tracks, which would work alright
with a physical mixing desk but I only have one mouse pointer.
I agree. This "feature" may, in theory, offer a benefit to users in
fringe circumstances; however, it comes at the expense of typical use.
A bad deal, I believe.
-Pete
6:39 p.m.
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 00:15, lee wrote:
Paul Winkler wrote:
No, not useless. It gangs left and right for that channel so that you
can put more left than right in, gang the controls, and then raise and
lower them together. I think there probably needs to be a way to gang
different input channels in addition to this functionality. Sort of
like the way we gang compressor controls in JAMin.
Jan
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Jan
Depner wrote:
This feature makes the "l+r gang" button on each channel useless, since
the way I have always used analog mixers for stereo tracks is to gang
channel one and channel two, each paned hard left and right so I can
control stereo volume with one slider. As it is now I have to raise two
sliders for stereo tracks, which would work alright with a physical
mixing desk but I only have one mouse pointer.
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 13:27, lee wrote:
I agree that it's a feature, but IMHO the UI is less than ideal.
I think I'd prefer a single slider and some kind of pan widget.
derek holzer wrote:
>Russell Hanaghan wrote:
>
>
>>Is there anything out there other than the regular Alsamixergui or Gnome
>>alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here?
>
>
>Try envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you
>access all the controls of the soundcard.
The one thing that threw me off (and I believe this qualifies as a bug
or perhaps confusing feature) is the digital mixer for all the channels
gives two faders per channel. So if you raise both faders on channel
one, it will send the same signal to both speakers. If you raise both
faders on channel two, it will do the same, effectively adding the two
signals together giving an output level twice as loud as what's actually
getting sent to the mixer.
That's a feature. It just takes some getting used to. Normally I raise
left on one channel and right on another. This allows you to mix some
left into right and right into left or swap left and right. 
6:50 p.m.
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 03:04, Tommi Sakari Uimonen wrote:
I think you can but only for the 1010 and 1010LT (from looking at the
code).
Jan
> Try
envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you
> access all the controls of the soundcard.
Not all. You can't control the word clock i/o (AFAIK)
19 Jun
19 Jun
1:14 p.m.
Hi!
There is the envy24control (or something). It should be included in the
alsa-tools package.
Fyi: I've got my 1010lt running on Suse 8.2 with a newly built 6.3 kernel,
with built-in alsa (at the moment). This is working great!
Kindest regards
Julien
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