Hart Larry wrote: Hart, I can't say for sure what broke your youtube-viewer. Most of your installation problems are not going to come from your choice of package manager, so might as well stick with one, apt-get, aptitude both walk the same dependency trees. What is an issue these days is how much gets pulled in by default. There are requires/suggests/recommends relations in Debian packages now, and I think you get more than just 'required' dependencies by default now. To have less: -- quote -- First use an editor to make the necessary changes: root@devuan:~# nano /etc/apt.conf.d/01lean Add the following lines: APT::Install-Suggests "0"; APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false"; APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "false"; -- endquote -- The newest Nama, and some of its perl dependencies are only available for sid AKA Debian unstable. I'm not sure how to pull them into stable or testing distributions. People often switch from the Debian stable distribution to testing or unstable to get newer packages. However there are already newer changes you will want. Here is a simply way to install Nama while using Debian system perl, but compiling extra stuff into your $HOME directory. apt-get install libncurses5-dev cpanminus liblocal-lib-perl Note *two* angle brackets in following: perl -Mlocal::lib >> ~/.bashrc source ~/.bashrc echo $PATH (Should include something like $HOME/perl5/bin.) Now you should be ready for: cpanm Audio::Nama which you can use to upgrade Nama later. Finally, nama hope this helps Joel -- Joel Roth