9 Sep
2009
9 Sep
'09
9:43 p.m.
I'd really like to use Audacity through Jack. Unfortunately it's
behavior complicates this. I can load up a file, but nothing shows up
in jack connections until I hit play. Then two PortAudio channels
appear! If I stop playback they disappear. The next time I press play
they appear again, but incremented by 2 and, of course, not connected to
my out channels. This was all covered in an old thread here:
http://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=552
The best solution I could find there was to use PatchBay. That kind of
works, except the two PortAudio output sockets created by Audacity
automatically connect to the first two input sockets on my system which
don't happen to be where the monitor cables plug in (they're in 10 and
11). Is there a way to specify which output plug routes to which input
plug via patchbay or is it stuck at the socket level with no
finer-grained control?
In a pinch, is there another mp3 capable audio player that works with
jack without jumping through any more hoops than just starting the app?
-Scott
p.s. Using PortAudio v19, Audacity 1.3.5-beta
9 Sep
9 Sep
10 p.m.
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:32 -0700
Scott <lau(a)troutpocket.org> wrote:
I'd really like to use Audacity through Jack.
Unfortunately it's
behavior complicates this. I can load up a file, but nothing shows up
in jack connections until I hit play. Then two PortAudio channels
appear! If I stop playback they disappear. The next time I press
play they appear again, but incremented by 2 and, of course, not
connected to my out channels. This was all covered in an old thread
here:
http://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=552
The best solution I could find there was to use PatchBay. That kind
of works, except the two PortAudio output sockets created by Audacity
automatically connect to the first two input sockets on my system
which don't happen to be where the monitor cables plug in (they're in
10 and 11). Is there a way to specify which output plug routes to
which input plug via patchbay or is it stuck at the socket level with
no finer-grained control?
I think it may be possible to force it to do something else via
patchbay and some exclusive option but I'm not sure.
The portaudio behaviour is really annoying.
In a pinch, is there another mp3 capable audio player
that works with
jack without jumping through any more hoops than just starting the
app?
Lots. Mediaplayers like mplayer, xine, vlc, audioplayers like mpd,
aqualung, audacious, audio editors like rezound and others
-Scott
p.s. Using PortAudio v19, Audacity 1.3.5-beta
Regards,
Philipp
11:24 p.m.
hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:32 -0700
Scott <lau(a)troutpocket.org> wrote:
I forgot that VLC plays audio! That works really well.
Anyway, I found a workaround. My audio interface is an Echo Audiofire12. I had
plugged into the line-out ports 11 and 12 because of cable length issues but have
since moved things around a bit so that isn't an issue any more. I just moved the
TRS
cables to lines-out 1 and 2 and both Audacity and VLC work without having to manually
reroute them to the appropriate ports in patchbay. Both applications automatically
attach to the first two ports of the system socket, but, like, whatever, etc, y'know.
-Scott
I'd really like to use Audacity through Jack.
Unfortunately it's
behavior complicates this. I can load up a file, but nothing shows up
in jack connections until I hit play. Then two PortAudio channels
appear! If I stop playback they disappear. The next time I press
play they appear again, but incremented by 2 and, of course, not
connected to my out channels. This was all covered in an old thread
here:
http://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=552
The best solution I could find there was to use PatchBay. That kind
of works, except the two PortAudio output sockets created by Audacity
automatically connect to the first two input sockets on my system
which don't happen to be where the monitor cables plug in (they're in
10 and 11). Is there a way to specify which output plug routes to
which input plug via patchbay or is it stuck at the socket level with
no finer-grained control?
I think it may be possible to force it to do something else via
patchbay and some exclusive option but I'm not sure.
The portaudio behaviour is really annoying.
In a pinch, is there another mp3 capable audio
player that works with
jack without jumping through any more hoops than just starting the
app?
Lots. Mediaplayers like mplayer, xine, vlc, audioplayers like mpd,
aqualung, audacious, audio editors like rezound and others 
10 Sep
10 Sep
6:32 a.m.
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 02:00 +0200, hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
Are people actually using Audacity as just an MP3 player? Have I missed
some setting that makes it suitable for that? Whenever I've loaded
Audacity it is an audio editing environment, not a player.
Peter.
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:32 -0700
Scott <lau(a)troutpocket.org> wrote:
In a pinch, is
there another mp3 capable audio player that works with
jack without jumping through any more hoops than just starting the
app?
Lots. Mediaplayers like mplayer, xine, vlc, audioplayers like mpd,
aqualung, audacious, audio editors like rezound and others 
10:33 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Peter Nelson<peter(a)fuzzle.org> wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 02:00 +0200, hollunder(a)gmx.at
wrote:
audacity != audacious
Lots. Mediaplayers like mplayer, xine, vlc,
audioplayers like mpd,
aqualung, audacious, audio editors like rezound and others
Are people actually using Audacity as just an MP3 player? Have I missed
some setting that makes it suitable for that? Whenever I've loaded
Audacity it is an audio editing environment, not a player.
10:57 a.m.
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 08:33 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Peter
Nelson<peter(a)fuzzle.org> wrote:
Quite so. The original poster, however, only ever referred to Audacity.
Peter.
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 02:00 +0200,
hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
audacity != audacious Lots. Mediaplayers like mplayer, xine, vlc,
audioplayers like mpd,
aqualung, audacious, audio editors like rezound and others
Are people actually using Audacity as just an MP3 player? Have I missed
some setting that makes it suitable for that? Whenever I've loaded
Audacity it is an audio editing environment, not a player.
11:40 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Peter Nelson<peter(a)fuzzle.org> wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 08:33 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
fair point. it is a bit confusing how the issue switched from a sound
file editor to a simple sound file player ...
audacity != audacious
Quite so. The original poster, however, only ever referred to Audacity.
1:31 p.m.
Peter Nelson wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 02:00 +0200, hollunder(a)gmx.at
wrote:
Are people actually using Audacity as just an MP3 player? Have I missed
some setting that makes it suitable for that? Whenever I've loaded
Audacity it is an audio editing environment, not a player.
I didn't explain my purpose for using Audacity. I use it to play MP3 files, but also
to change their tempo while preserving the pitch so I can learn drum and guitar parts
for complicated riffs. It's excellent for this purpose. I've tried a few other
tempo
control apps before but they were excessively choppy. It's been a while so if anyone
can recommend one that works better than Audacity these days, I'd love to hear it.
-Scott
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:32 -0700
Scott <lau(a)troutpocket.org> wrote:
In a
pinch, is there another mp3 capable audio player that works with
jack without jumping through any more hoops than just starting the
app?
Lots. Mediaplayers like mplayer, xine, vlc, audioplayers like mpd,
aqualung, audacious, audio editors like rezound and others 
1:33 p.m.
Scott wrote:
Peter Nelson wrote:
Try rezound
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 02:00 +0200,
hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
I didn't explain my purpose for using Audacity. I use it to play MP3 files, but
also
to change their tempo while preserving the pitch so I can learn drum and guitar parts
for complicated riffs. It's excellent for this purpose. I've tried a few other
tempo
control apps before but they were excessively choppy. It's been a while so if
anyone
can recommend one that works better than Audacity these days, I'd love to hear it.
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:32 -0700
Scott <lau(a)troutpocket.org> wrote:
Are people actually using Audacity as just an MP3 player? Have I missed
some setting that makes it suitable for that? Whenever I've loaded
Audacity it is an audio editing environment, not a player.
In a pinch, is there another mp3 capable audio
player that works with
jack without jumping through any more hoops than just starting the
app?
Lots. Mediaplayers like mplayer, xine, vlc, audioplayers like mpd,
aqualung, audacious, audio editors like rezound and others
1:42 p.m.
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
Scott wrote:
I use ReZound for editing and Audacity for Scott's purposes. Audacity's
Change Tempo is much beloved by my students (and their teacher too). The
Change Pitch feature is also useful when the original has been tuned
down to Eb or lower. I can raise the pitch to standard tuning and teach
the song without having to retune the student's instrument. Nice.
Best,
dp
I didn't explain my purpose for using Audacity. I use it to play MP3 files, but
also
to change their tempo while preserving the pitch so I can learn drum and guitar parts
for complicated riffs. It's excellent for this purpose. I've tried a few other
tempo
control apps before but they were excessively choppy. It's been a while so if
anyone
can recommend one that works better than Audacity these days, I'd love to hear it.
Try rezound
1:47 p.m.
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Dave Phillips wrote:
I use ReZound for editing and Audacity for Scott's purposes. Audacity's
Change Tempo is much beloved by my students (and their teacher too). The
Change Pitch feature is also useful when the original has been tuned
down to Eb or lower. I can raise the pitch to standard tuning and teach
the song without having to retune the student's instrument. Nice.
ReZound also does this.
-gabriel
3:54 p.m.
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Grammostola Rosea schrieb:
Try rezound
Rezound is just great in terms of concept and it is still the most
comfortable destructive wave-editor for Linux. But let us be honest: it
has not seen a update in years ...
Scott wrote:
> Peter Nelson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 02:00 +0200, hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:32 -0700
>>> Scott <lau(a)troutpocket.org> wrote:
...
> I didn't explain my purpose for using
Audacity. I use it to play MP3 files, but also
> to change their tempo while preserving the pitch so I can learn drum and guitar
parts
> for complicated riffs. It's excellent for this purpose. I've tried a few
other tempo
> control apps before but they were excessively choppy. It's been a while so if
anyone
> can recommend one that works better than Audacity these days, I'd love to hear
it.
SND has separate sliders for pitch and speed based on granular
synthesis. Works very much OK for me - quite a bit better then to have
the thing rendered before hearing and still with acceptable sound-quality.
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4:03 p.m.
Hartmut Noack wrote:
Grammostola Rosea schrieb:
Try rezound
Rezound is just great in terms of concept and it is still the most
comfortable destructive wave-editor for Linux. But let us be honest: it
has not seen a update in years ...
I was about to say this. I was attempting to compile an RPM of the
latest version and found that it requires XFree86-devel as a
dependency. It looks promising, but I hit my limit with regard to how
much time I spend on software versus time spend playing music. Audacity
will have to do.
-Scott
Scott wrote:
> Peter Nelson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 02:00 +0200, hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:32 -0700
>>> Scott <lau(a)troutpocket.org> wrote:
...
> I didn't explain my purpose for using
Audacity. I use it to play
MP3 files, but also
> to change their tempo while preserving the
pitch so I can learn
drum and guitar parts
> for complicated riffs. It's excellent
for this purpose. I've
tried a few other tempo
> control apps before but they were excessively
choppy. It's been a
while so if anyone
> can recommend one that works better than
Audacity these days, I'd
love to hear it.
SND has separate sliders for pitch and speed based on granular
synthesis. Works very much OK for me - quite a bit better then to have
the thing rendered before hearing and still with acceptable sound-quality.
1:36 p.m.
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Scott wrote:
I didn't explain my purpose for using Audacity. I use it to play MP3 files, but
also
to change their tempo while preserving the pitch so I can learn drum and guitar parts
for complicated riffs. It's excellent for this purpose. I've tried a few other
tempo
control apps before but they were excessively choppy. It's been a while so if
anyone
can recommend one that works better than Audacity these days, I'd love to hear it.
I do this all the time. Check out ReZound.
However, when I can't get ReZound (e.g. on Windows)... Audacity is my
fallback.
HTH,
Gabriel
2:05 p.m.
I didn't explain my purpose for using Audacity. I
use it to play MP3 files, but also
to change their tempo while preserving the pitch so I can learn drum and guitar parts
for complicated riffs. It's excellent for this purpose. I've tried a few other
tempo
control apps before but they were excessively choppy. It's been a while so if
anyone
can recommend one that works better than Audacity these days, I'd love to hear it.
good old mplayer again:
$ mplayer -af scaletempo -speed 0.7 file.mp3
speed can then be altered on the fly with [ ] and { }
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