3 May
2004
3 May
'04
10:27 a.m.
Hello,
I would like to do some simple WAV editing. Actually, minimum
pre-mastering of an audio CD: normalizing, cutting out pieces, dividing
into tracks, altering volume in some places.
My problem is, at this point alsa drivers are not working for me. And in
itself this is not a problem. The audio source is not the sound card, so
I don't do realtime audio capture. And as I only want simple editing, I
don't care about playback latency.
Which WAV editor should I use? I'd like it to be able to work with OSS
(perhaps via jack-oss?).
Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
3 May
3 May
10:37 a.m.
Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I would like to do some simple WAV editing. Actually, minimum
pre-mastering of an audio CD: normalizing, cutting out pieces, dividing
into tracks, altering volume in some places.
My problem is, at this point alsa drivers are not working for me. And in
itself this is not a problem. The audio source is not the sound card, so
I don't do realtime audio capture. And as I only want simple editing, I
don't care about playback latency.
Which WAV editor should I use? I'd like it to be able to work with OSS
(perhaps via jack-oss?).
Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
audacity seems what you need
jdd
10:58 a.m.
Audacity.
without a doubt its the best, and strongest application for wave
editing, with support for VST plugins via the vst import device (sorry
guys, forgotten what it's called, hmm it might be Alsa only but there
are plenty of good OSS-based effects too). i still use Audacity despite
having the option of using Alsa - its also lightweight, and does a nice
job of mixing, recording and editing. can't reccomend it highly enough.
hth,
m~
Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I would like to do some simple WAV editing. Actually, minimum
pre-mastering of an audio CD: normalizing, cutting out pieces, dividing
into tracks, altering volume in some places.
My problem is, at this point alsa drivers are not working for me. And in
itself this is not a problem. The audio source is not the sound card, so
I don't do realtime audio capture. And as I only want simple editing, I
don't care about playback latency.
Which WAV editor should I use? I'd like it to be able to work with OSS
(perhaps via jack-oss?).
Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
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7:45 p.m.
Hello,
miriam clinton (iriXx) wrote:
Audacity.
without a doubt its the best, and strongest application for wave
editing,
I've downloaded and compiled it. And yes, it is what I need.
Good wave functionality; even recording; all of that via OSS.
I don't know if Ardour is cooler for the pro stuff; for what I do,
Audacity is exactly the match.
Thanks to all who pointed me to it!
Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
with support for VST plugins via the vst import device
(sorry
guys, forgotten what it's called, hmm it might be Alsa only but there
are plenty of good OSS-based effects too). i still use Audacity despite
having the option of using Alsa - its also lightweight, and does a nice
job of mixing, recording and editing. can't reccomend it highly enough.
hth,
m~
Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I would like to do some simple WAV editing. Actually, minimum
pre-mastering of an audio CD: normalizing, cutting out pieces, dividing
into tracks, altering volume in some places.
My problem is, at this point alsa drivers are not working for me. And in
itself this is not a problem. The audio source is not the sound card, so
I don't do realtime audio capture. And as I only want simple editing, I
don't care about playback latency.
Which WAV editor should I use? I'd like it to be able to work with OSS
(perhaps via jack-oss?).
Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
6:22 p.m.
Hallo,
Mikhail Ramendik hat gesagt: // Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
I would like to do some simple WAV editing. Actually,
minimum
pre-mastering of an audio CD: normalizing, cutting out pieces,
dividing into tracks, altering volume in some places.
My problem is, at this point alsa drivers are not working for me.
And in itself this is not a problem.
It isn't indeed, because most of the good wave editors don't even
really support ALSA: Audacity uses OSS per default and is hard to get
working with ALSA; Rezound uses OSS or Jack, Sweep's ALSA support can
be shaky and only Snd supports ALSA directly and well, but can do with
OSS, too.
Although the "dividing into tracks" can be difficult with some of
them. Of above examples only Audacity and Snd have useable multitrack
features, of course not in a way like Ardour does. For advanced usage
I'd say, still nothing beats Snd.
Ciao
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7:24 p.m.
On Mon, 3 May 2004 22:14:54 +0200 someone called
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Although the "dividing into tracks" can be
difficult with some of
them. Of above examples only Audacity and Snd have useable multitrack
features, of course not in a way like Ardour does. For advanced usage
I'd say, still nothing beats Snd.
i think he means "dividing into cd-tracks". gcdmaster is good at
that(http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/gcdmaster/). rezound (rezound.sf.net) offers the
possibility of splitting up a file in different parts by adding cues and burning them to
cd from within the program.
cheers
m
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4 May
4 May
4:35 a.m.
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 11:12:28PM +0200, mik wrote:
i think he means "dividing into cd-tracks".
gcdmaster is good at that(http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/gcdmaster/).
+1 on gcdmaster. I just started using it for backing up my vinyl to
CD and it's so quick and easy... I just record the two sides with ecasound,
start a project in gcdmaster, add the two audio files I just recorded,
find the track boundaries (usually really easy) and drop in
cue points. When the cues are done I pop in a blank and click "record".
The resulting CDs play perfectly.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
5 May
5 May
2:55 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
I just installed Fedora Core 2 Test 3. I have two soundcards installed;
Creative SB Live 5.1 Value, and a M-Audio Delta 1010LT.
Both soundcards seem to be recognized by ALSA, and the kmixer program shows
both (as does alsamixer). However, the 1010LT does not work. The SBLive does.
If I cat /proc/asound/cards, I get:
0 [Live ]: EMU10K1 - Sound Blaster Live!
Sound Blaster Live! (rev.10) at 0xbc00, irq 10
1 [M1010LT ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 1010LT
M Audio Delta 1010LT at 0xac00, irq 5
When I cat /proc/asound/devices, I get this:
0: [0- 0]: ctl
4: [0- 0]: hardware dependent
8: [0- 0]: raw midi
19: [0- 3]: digital audio playback
26: [0- 2]: digital audio capture
25: [0- 1]: digital audio capture
16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback
24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture
33: : timer
32: [1- 0]: ctl
40: [1- 0]: raw midi
48: [1- 0]: digital audio playback
56: [1- 0]: digital audio capture
A cat on hwdep only shows the SBLive:
00-00: EMU10K1 (FX8010)
Everything seems to be working, but still no sound. When I select the 1010
from XMMS, it gives me an error that the soundcard is either in use, or not
configured correctly.
Any ideas here? This is the first time I have tried ALSA, which was the main
reason to try FC2T3 in the first place.
Thanks,
--
Jim Hines
Fedora Core 2 Test 3
Athlon XP2100
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6 May
6 May
6:51 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
Hi!
Did you try to move your 1010lt around in the pci slots. I first had a
non-working 1010lt. The only problem was, that it was placed in the wrong
slot (irq problems). Another question is which alsa version do hou have
installed. I think 0.9.4-0.9.5 had a bug. At the moment I'm running alsa
1.0.2-something (2.6.3 kernel). But I'd also tried 1.0.4, which worked as
well.
I hope that helps.
Kindest regards
Julien
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4:54 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
On Thursday 06 May 2004 04:43, Julien Claassen wrote:
Hi!
Did you try to move your 1010lt around in the pci slots. I first had a
non-working 1010lt. The only problem was, that it was placed in the wrong
slot (irq problems). Another question is which alsa version do hou have
installed. I think 0.9.4-0.9.5 had a bug. At the moment I'm running alsa
1.0.2-something (2.6.3 kernel). But I'd also tried 1.0.4, which worked as
well.
I hope that helps.
Kindest regards
Julien
No, I did not try moving to another slot. I don't believe I have any
conflicts. It's actually using the same interrupt (5) as it does under
windoze.
Here are the versions of RPMs installed by default on Fedora Core 2 Test 3:
alsa-lib-1.0.3a-1
alsa-utils-1.0.3-1
alsa-lib-devel-1.0.3a-1
Thanks,
--
Jim Hines
Fedora Core 2 Test 3
Athlon XP2100
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7:48 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
Jim Hines wrote:
Both soundcards seem to be recognized by ALSA, and the
kmixer program shows
both (as does alsamixer). However, the 1010LT does not work. The SBLive does.
Everything seems to be working, but still no sound. When I select the 1010
from XMMS, it gives me an error that the soundcard is either in use, or not
configured correctly.
This may be an XMMS problem.
Does it work with aplay? ("aplay -D plughw:1 something.wav")
Regards,
Clemens
4:58 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
On Thursday 06 May 2004 05:40, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Jim Hines wrote:
Ah, yes it DOES play using this command. Perhaps it has something to do with
KDE 3.2.2 (artsd), because none of the graphical players seem to work with it
using the 1010LT (but do with SBLive).
I guess I have a new problem to figure out. Any ideas?
Thanks,
--
Jim Hines
Fedora Core 2 Test 3
Athlon XP2100
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Both soundcards seem to be recognized by ALSA,
and the kmixer program
shows both (as does alsamixer). However, the 1010LT does not work. The
SBLive does.
Everything seems to be working, but still no sound. When I select the
1010 from XMMS, it gives me an error that the soundcard is either in use,
or not configured correctly.
This may be an XMMS problem.
Does it work with aplay? ("aplay -D plughw:1 something.wav") 
5:34 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 11:49, Jim Hines wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2004 05:40, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Kickarts applet? It's on the MDK contribs. Try rpmfind.net or
rpm.pbone.net. I terminate the arts server before using any alsa or jack
related stuff.
Jim Hines wrote:
Ah, yes it DOES play using this command. Perhaps it has something to do with
KDE 3.2.2 (artsd), because none of the graphical players seem to work with it
using the 1010LT (but do with SBLive).
I guess I have a new problem to figure out. Any ideas? Both soundcards seem to be recognized by ALSA,
and the kmixer program
shows both (as does alsamixer). However, the 1010LT does not work. The
SBLive does.
Everything seems to be working, but still no sound. When I select the
1010 from XMMS, it gives me an error that the soundcard is either in use,
or not configured correctly.
This may be an XMMS problem.
Does it work with aplay? ("aplay -D plughw:1 something.wav")
Thanks,
5:52 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
On Thursday 06 May 2004 15:19, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 11:49, Jim Hines wrote:
Curious, would not a simple "killall artsd" do the trick?
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On Thursday 06 May 2004 05:40, Clemens Ladisch
wrote:
Kickarts applet? It's on the MDK contribs. Try rpmfind.net or
rpm.pbone.net. I terminate the arts server before using any alsa or jack
related stuff. Jim Hines wrote:
Ah, yes it DOES play using this command. Perhaps it has something to do
with KDE 3.2.2 (artsd), because none of the graphical players seem to
work with it using the 1010LT (but do with SBLive).
I guess I have a new problem to figure out. Any ideas? Both soundcards seem to be recognized by ALSA,
and the kmixer program
shows both (as does alsamixer). However, the 1010LT does not work.
The SBLive does.
Everything seems to be working, but still no sound. When I select the
1010 from XMMS, it gives me an error that the soundcard is either in
use, or not configured correctly.
This may be an XMMS problem.
Does it work with aplay? ("aplay -D plughw:1 something.wav")
6:19 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 12:42, Jim Hines wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2004 15:19, Russell Hanaghan
wrote:
Most likely. I'm a member of GUI apps anonymous! :) If I cant point n
click, I'm screwed! :P
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 11:49, Jim Hines wrote:
Curious, would not a simple "killall artsd" do the trick? On Thursday 06 May 2004 05:40, Clemens Ladisch
wrote:
Kickarts applet? It's on the MDK contribs. Try rpmfind.net or
rpm.pbone.net. I terminate the arts server before using any alsa or jack
related stuff. Jim Hines wrote:
> Both soundcards seem to be recognized by ALSA, and the kmixer program
> shows both (as does alsamixer). However, the 1010LT does not work.
> The SBLive does.
>
> Everything seems to be working, but still no sound. When I select the
> 1010 from XMMS, it gives me an error that the soundcard is either in
> use, or not configured correctly.
This may be an XMMS problem.
Does it work with aplay? ("aplay -D plughw:1 something.wav")
Ah, yes it DOES play using this command. Perhaps it has something to do
with KDE 3.2.2 (artsd), because none of the graphical players seem to
work with it using the 1010LT (but do with SBLive).
I guess I have a new problem to figure out. Any ideas? 
6:02 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 11:49, Jim Hines wrote:
You might try changing the "output plugin" value in XMMS to OSS; that
will use the ALSA emulation, and possibly eliminate XMMS as a part of
the problem. Using the OSS plugin requires that you have permissions
set properly on /dev/dsp.ping
/ken
On Thursday 06 May 2004 05:40, Clemens Ladisch
wrote:
Kickarts applet? It's on the MDK contribs. Try rpmfind.net or
rpm.pbone.net. I terminate the arts server before using any alsa or jack
related stuff.
>Thanks,
> Jim Hines wrote:
Ah, yes it DOES play using this command. Perhaps it has something to do with
KDE 3.2.2 (artsd), because none of the graphical players seem to work with it
using the 1010LT (but do with SBLive).
I guess I have a new problem to figure out. Any ideas? Both soundcards seem to be recognized by ALSA, and
the kmixer program
shows both (as does alsamixer). However, the 1010LT does not work. The
SBLive does.
Everything seems to be working, but still no sound. When I select the
1010 from XMMS, it gives me an error that the soundcard is either in use,
or not configured correctly.
This may be an XMMS problem.
Does it work with aplay? ("aplay -D plughw:1 something.wav")
6:19 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] ALSA, FC2 test 3 and Delta 1010LT
Er, that hould be /dev/dsp.
/ken
You might try changing the "output plugin"
value in XMMS to OSS; that
will use the ALSA emulation, and possibly eliminate XMMS as a part of
the problem. Using the OSS plugin requires that you have permissions
set properly on /dev/dsp.ping
/ken
3 May
3 May
7:50 p.m.
Hello,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Although the "dividing into tracks" can be
difficult with some of
them. Of above examples only Audacity and Snd have useable multitrack
features, of course not in a way like Ardour does. For advanced usage
I'd say, still nothing beats Snd.
I'm not into THIS kind of tracks. No multitrack features needed; plain
stereo.
Just those in the TOC of a CD. If I got that right, I have to just make
track1.wav, track2.wav, etc and then run cdrecord on all of them to put
them onto a CD. (I'll ask in this list if that fails :)
Audacity looks familiar (I used Soundforge some years ago), and seems to
have every feature I need. Some things are unclear so I'll go RTFM.
Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
4 May
4 May
5:35 a.m.
Hallo,
Mikhail Ramendik hat gesagt: // Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
I'm not into THIS kind of tracks. No multitrack
features needed; plain
stereo.
Ah, I misunderstood.
Audacity looks familiar (I used Soundforge some years
ago)
So you're used to a sometimes slower editing performance... ;)
Ciao
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Clemens Ladisch -
Frank Barknecht -
jdd -
Jim Hines -
Julien Claassen -
ken dawson -
mik -
Mikhail Ramendik -
miriam clinton (iriXx) -
Paul Winkler -
Russell Hanaghan