12 Nov
2009
12 Nov
'09
7:32 a.m.
2009/11/10 Clemens Ladisch <clemens(a)ladisch.de>de>:
Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Are you talking about getting advanced mode working ? That would be
nice. Standard mode already works fine - I'm using it with an Acer
Aspire One running Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04 and it makes a very neat
portable recorder with Audacity.
Fritz
Sorry to barge in on the conversation, but it
seems to me that the UA-101
remains closest we got to a working USB2 soundcard yet it is not functional
enough to be useful (clicks due to lack of proper sync). I had a student
giving it a try earlier this summer and had high hopes that he would come
through. Alas, he gave up or got side-tracked with studies and
unfortunately, the thing is still not working...
Any hope anyone else might take this one up anytime soon?
Yes.
12 Nov
12 Nov
8:18 a.m.
New subject: UA-101 (was: status usb2 for sound)
Fritz Meissner wrote:
2009/11/10 Clemens Ladisch
<clemens(a)ladisch.de>de>:
No, because this device does not have an "advanced mode".
Do you mean full-speed mode?
Best regards,
Clemens
Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Are you talking about getting advanced mode working ? Any hope anyone else might take this one up
anytime soon?
Yes.
8:45 a.m.
New subject: UA-101 (was: status usb2 for sound)
2009/11/12 Clemens Ladisch <clemens(a)ladisch.de>de>:
Fritz Meissner wrote:
Sorry, I was getting confused - I have UA-1EX, not UA-101 which is of
course a much more capable product. It would though be great to be
able to use the 24 bit/96 ks/sec mode with this.
Fritz
2009/11/10 Clemens Ladisch
<clemens(a)ladisch.de>de>:
No, because this device does not have an "advanced mode".
Do you mean full-speed mode?
Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Are you talking about getting advanced mode working ? Any hope anyone else might take this one up
anytime soon?
Yes.
10:05 a.m.
New subject: UA-1EX (was: UA-101)
Fritz Meissner wrote:
Sorry, I was getting confused - I have UA-1EX, not
UA-101 which is of
course a much more capable product. It would though be great to be
able to use the 24 bit/96 ks/sec mode with this.
Should have been supported for more than two years:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdi…
What happens when you plug it in in advanced mode? Any error messages
in the system log?
Best regards,
Clemens
10:36 a.m.
New subject: UA-1EX (was: UA-101)
Should have been supported for more than two years:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-
2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b0d39be53b057e05e2f796a071ff1cead3a2506
What happens when you plug it in in advanced mode? Any error
messages
in the system log?
Best regards,
Clemens
FWIW, for me, nothing happens. Kernel reports USB device connecting but Alsa
creates no devices. This is on 9.04 Ubuntu with relatively recent Alsa
driver and a patch applied to it (I think it is the same patch, except I
pulled it from the Alsa Wiki).
Ico
2:49 p.m.
New subject: UA-1EX
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:30 +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Okay, "lsusb -v" please ...
Actually, I stand corrected. UA-1EX works fine in advanced mode but its
newer rebranded version UA-1G (under Cakewalk/Roland brand see:
http://www.cakewalk.com/products/UAUM/UA1G.asp) does not (it is
essentially identical hardware with a different USB device ID/name. So,
UA-1G does work in a normal non-advanced mode but it does not in the
advanced mode.
Attached is the lsusb -v for UA-1G in normal and advanced modes.
We'll send you the UA-101 info next. Please note that UA-101 does not
have 7 SR modes nor normal/advanced modes (see:
http://www.citraintirama.com/admin/product/428958Edirol%20UA-101.jpg).
It is like FA-101 and thus has only 5 sampling rates, 44.1, 48, 88.2,
96, and 192KHz.
Best wishes,
Ico
What
happens when you plug it in in advanced mode? Any error messages
in the system log?
FWIW, for me, nothing happens. Kernel reports USB device connecting but Alsa
creates no devices. 
5:58 p.m.
New subject: UA-1EX (was: UA-101)
2009/11/12 Clemens Ladisch <clemens(a)ladisch.de>de>:
Fritz Meissner wrote:
I think that when I last tried advanced mode was when I still had the
original Linpus Linux installed, which used a very old kernel. It came
without the snd-usb module, but I put them in myself which made the
UA-1EX work in standard mode but not in advanced mode.
I've just done some more testing with Ubuntu (kernel Ubuntu
2.6.28-16.55-generic) and the advanced mode does work if I try
recording in Audacity. Pulseaudio is also aware that the sample rate
is now 96 kHz instead of 44.1, but shows the sample size as 16 bit
instead of 24 bit. It does seem that the system does not entirely
understand the advanced mode if you look at the following output from
lsusb -v :
Standard mode :
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0582:0097 Roland Corp.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 1.10
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x0582 Roland Corp.
idProduct 0x0097
bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 1
iProduct 2
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 174
bNumInterfaces 3
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 200mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 10
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (HEADER)
bcdADC 1.00
wTotalLength 52
bInCollection 2
baInterfaceNr( 0) 1
baInterfaceNr( 1) 2
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 12
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 1
wTerminalType 0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal 0
bNrChannels 2
wChannelConfig 0x0003
Left Front (L)
Right Front (R)
iChannelNames 0
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 3
wTerminalType 0x0304 Desktop Speaker
bAssocTerminal 0
bSourceID 1
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 12
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 4
wTerminalType 0x0601 Analog Connector
bAssocTerminal 0
bNrChannels 2
wChannelConfig 0x0003
Left Front (L)
Right Front (R)
iChannelNames 0
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 7
wTerminalType 0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal 0
bSourceID 4
iTerminal 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 1
bDelay 0 frames
wFormatTag 1 PCM
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 11
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bNrChannels 2
bSubframeSize 2
bBitResolution 16
bSamFreqType 1 Discrete
tSamFreq[ 0] 44100
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 9
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Adaptive
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x00c0 1x 192 bytes
bInterval 1
bRefresh 0
bSynchAddress 0
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 512 Decoded PCM samples
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 7
bDelay 0 frames
wFormatTag 1 PCM
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 11
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bNrChannels 2
bSubframeSize 2
bBitResolution 16
bSamFreqType 1 Discrete
tSamFreq[ 0] 44100
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x00c0 1x 192 bytes
bInterval 1
bRefresh 0
bSynchAddress 0
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 0 Undefined
wLockDelay 0 Undefined
Advanced mode set to 96 kHz sample rate :
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0582:0096 Roland Corp. EDIROL UA-1EX
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 1.10
bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 255
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x0582 Roland Corp.
idProduct 0x0096 EDIROL UA-1EX
bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 1
iProduct 2
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 59
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 200mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 2
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 2
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
** UNRECOGNIZED: 07 24 01 07 00 01 00
** UNRECOGNIZED: 0b 24 02 01 02 03 18 01 00 77 01
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0260 1x 608 bytes
bInterval 1
Thanks for your assistance,
Fritz
Sorry, I was getting confused - I have UA-1EX,
not UA-101 which is of
course a much more capable product. It would though be great to be
able to use the 24 bit/96 ks/sec mode with this.
Should have been supported for more than two years:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdi…
What happens when you plug it in in advanced mode? Any error messages
in the system log?
13 Nov
13 Nov
4:09 a.m.
New subject: UA-1EX
Fritz Meissner wrote:
Pulseaudio is also aware that the sample rate is now
96 kHz instead of
44.1, but shows the sample size as 16 bit instead of 24 bit.
In advanced more, 24 bits is the only format.
It does seem that the system does not entirely
understand the advanced
mode if you look at the following output from lsusb -v :
** UNRECOGNIZED: 0b 24 02 01 02 03 18 01 00 77 01
lsusb does not understand it because the device must pretend to be a
vendor-specific class to prevent the Windows 98 USB audio driver from
blowing up when seeing a 24-bit device.
Best regards,
Clemens
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