19 Jun
2015
19 Jun
'15
3:16 p.m.
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Felix Homann wrote:
Am 19.06.2015 02:23 schrieb "Len Ovens"
<len(a)ovenwerks.net>et>:
In general, the big thing with a digital mixer is lots of mic pre. You
have 16. The motu 8M has only 8 but is a class compliant USB2 IF and can
be controled by OSC (I downloaded the OSC spec out of interest) or by
browser. More pres could be added, but at the expense of lugging more
stuff around. I agree that for your purposes The digital mixer is probably
better. Certainly the remote gui for linux has got to be better than a
browser interface.
I have tried the linux mixer gui for the xr18 and it is better than any of
the browser gui I have tried. The android version is not as nice :P
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The line between "audio interface" and
"digital mixer" is getting pretty fuzzy.
There are a number of Audio
interfaces that could also be used live digital
mixers. (have eq and effects and can be controlled by a computer GUI)
How many are there that you can control from Linux, Android, Windows, Mac and
iOS? How many are there that you can control completely via OSC?
For my purposes the only alternative to the XR18 I know of would be another
Behringer device, the X32 Rack that I had on my shopping list for quite a while
last year until I realized that it is too heavy for me: I just would not want to
carry it around with me to every show. 
19 Jun
19 Jun
8:07 p.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 06:15:22AM -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Felix Homann wrote:
The XR16/18 looks great for my live work but how good a recording
interface are they? (if at all) I can't find anything in the specs. How many
channels can you record at one go & are they through the USB or
ethernet or either/both. That is the only question remaining between
maybe from cq in the post.
Many thanks in anticipation,
Steve
Am 19.06.2015 02:23 schrieb "Len Ovens"
<len(a)ovenwerks.net>et>:
In general, the big thing with a digital mixer is lots of mic pre. You have
16. The motu 8M has only 8 but is a class compliant USB2 IF and can be
controled by OSC (I downloaded the OSC spec out of interest) or by browser.
More pres could be added, but at the expense of lugging more stuff around. I
agree that for your purposes The digital mixer is probably better. Certainly
the remote gui for linux has got to be better than a browser interface.
I have tried the linux mixer gui for the xr18 and it is better than any of
the browser gui I have tried. The android version is not as nice :P
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www.ovenwerks.net
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http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user The line between "audio interface" and
"digital mixer" is getting pretty fuzzy.
There are a number of Audio
interfaces that could also be used live digital
mixers. (have eq and effects and can be controlled by a computer GUI)
How many are there that you can control from Linux, Android, Windows, Mac and
iOS? How many are there that you can control completely via OSC?
For my purposes the only alternative to the XR18 I know of would be another
Behringer device, the X32 Rack that I had on my shopping list for quite a while
last year until I realized that it is too heavy for me: I just would not want to
carry it around with me to every show. 
9:47 p.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
2015-06-19 19:21 GMT+02:00 Steve Downes <steve(a)kingswayelec.co.uk>uk>:
The XR16/18 looks great for my live work but how good a recording
interface are they? (if at all) I can't find anything in the specs. How many
channels can you record at one go & are they through the USB or
ethernet or either/both.
On the XR18 you get 18 USB input and 18 USB output channels (tested).
But you can switch it to 2x2 mode (haven't tested this config though).
There's no audio over ethernet.
AFAIK the XR16 doesn't have a USB audio interface. Instead it offers
to record the 2-channel audio on a USB stick (and I think you can play
back from USB memory, too.)
20 Jun
20 Jun
2:21 a.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
On 06/19/2015 03:47 PM, Felix Homann wrote:
2015-06-19 19:21 GMT+02:00 Steve Downes
<steve(a)kingswayelec.co.uk>uk>:
Exactly what I was going to ask -- thanks. I might just pick one up.
Question remains, how does one switch it from 18x18 to 2x2? One of the
videos I saw said the setting was only available in the driver software.
The XR16/18 looks great for my live work but how good a recording
interface are they? (if at all) I can't find anything in the specs. How many
channels can you record at one go & are they through the USB or
ethernet or either/both.
On the XR18 you get 18 USB input and 18 USB output channels (tested).
But you can switch it to 2x2 mode (haven't tested this config though).
There's no audio over ethernet.
8:09 a.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
Am 20.06.2015 02:22 schrieb "David Santamauro"
<david.santamauro(a)gmail.com>om>:
There's a setting in X Air Edit, that's the Linux/Windows/Mac software for
controlling the device. I wouldn't call it the driver software. Where else
would you want it? (It's currently not available in the Android app,
though.)
X Air Edit and the other control apps communicate with the device solely
over OSC commands. So you could simply send the corresponding OSC command
from e.g. the terminal using oscsend.
Exactly what I was going to ask -- thanks. I might just pick one up.
Question
remains, how does one switch it from 18x18 to 2x2? One of the
videos I saw said the setting was only available in the driver software.
19 Jun
19 Jun
10:14 p.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Steve Downes wrote:
The XR16/18 looks great for my live work but how good
a recording
interface are they? (if at all) I can't find anything in the specs. How many
channels can you record at one go & are they through the USB or
ethernet or either/both. That is the only question remaining between
maybe from cq in the post.
USB2 compliant. The xr16 is 2 channels and the xr18 is 18 channels. 48K at
24bits for the xr18, I haven't really looked into the xr16.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
10:17 p.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Len Ovens wrote:
USB2 compliant. The xr16 is 2 channels and the xr18 is
18 channels. 48K at
24bits for the xr18, I haven't really looked into the xr16.
oops! Yeah, thats right the xr16 doesn't have USB.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
23 Jun
23 Jun
10 p.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 01:16:38PM -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Len Ovens wrote:
Many thanks everyone. Still researching it a bit. It seems to have a
few reliability problems so I'll wait a bit.
Steve
USB2 compliant. The xr16 is 2 channels and the
xr18 is 18 channels. 48K at
24bits for the xr18, I haven't really looked into the xr16.
oops! Yeah, thats right the xr16 doesn't have USB.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
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10:18 p.m.
New subject: Behringer and Linux
Am 23.06.2015 22:01 schrieb "Steve Downes" <steve(a)kingswayelec.co.uk>uk>:
Many thanks everyone. Still researching it a bit. It seems to have a
few reliability problems so I'll wait a bit.
What kinds of reliability problems? (Except for issues with the internal AP
which you really shouldn't use.)
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