26 Apr
2015
26 Apr
'15
6:38 p.m.
Hello.
Ardour 4 is out, as you surely know.
As usual since 6 or 7 years, still no possibilities to make a payment without paypal.Some
of us don't want to use paypal.So you can't have a «ready to run» binary if you
don't pay (fair, it's free as free speech, not free beer) but you can't
pay.And now a new feature for the «you don't pay» users, a demo version that turns
silent after 10 minutes (nice feature, really ! Amazing ! so clever to spend time on
that, than to add a payment system)
So here is how i build from source on a Gnu/Debian Wheezy.
Open the tar file.
./waf configure --with-backend=alsa,jack --no-jack-metadata
--prefix=/6_years/people/asking/paypal/alternative/so_hard_to_do
Adapt the options for you needs.You can see the options with :
/waf configure --help |less
Check the errors when you configure, and install the missing packages.Use your package
manager accordingly to your Gnu/Linux distro.On Gnu/Debian, apt or aptitude.Add or remove
packages if you already have them or not.The configure should tell you what you need/miss
aptitude -R install libraptor2-dev libsndfile1-dev libgnomecanvas2-dev libsigc++-2.0-dev
libcairo2-dev liblrdf0-dev libfreetype6-dev libfftw3-dev libglibmm-2.4-dev
libcairomm-1.0-dev libpangomm-1.4-dev libatkmm-1.6-dev libart2.0-cil-dev
libgnomecanvasmm-2.6-dev liblo-dev librasqal3-dev libogg-dev libflac-dev libvorbis-dev
libsamplerate0-dev libaudio-dev liblv2dynparam1-dev libserd-dev libsord-dev libsratom-dev
liblilv-dev libsuil-dev librubberband-dev vamp-plugin-sdk libaubio-dev libjack-dev
liblilv-dev
Once the configuration is done without errors :
./waf build -jX
X=thread your cpu can handle. example : ./waf build -j8Wait a little, it's fast on
recent CPU with cores.
Then go to the directory you've declared in the configure --prefix=
For example :
cd 6_years/people/asking/paypal/alternative/so_hard_to_doYou'll find directories :
bin etc lib share
cd bin
./ardour4
Work perfectly on a Gnu/Debian Wheezy.
Best.
26 Apr
26 Apr
6:53 p.m.
Am 26.04.2015 um 18:37 schrieb OvO OvO:
So here is how i build from source on a Gnu/Debian
Wheezy.
Arch users just use the AUR package:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ardour-git/
Look in the comments for the link to my updated PKGBUILD.
Chris
7:45 p.m.
Am 26.04.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:53:35 +0200, Christopher Arndt
wrote:
So you can't install different versions of Ardour.
$ pacman -Q ardour
ardour 2.8.16-1
Well, if you want to use old software installed via the package system,
use Debian, not a distro with a rolling release system :)
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/x86_64/ardour/
Or build an ardour-2 AUR package.
conflicts=('ardour')
That's what VCS packages are supposed to do.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VCS_package_guidelines
Chris
8:41 p.m.
Am 26.04.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Christopher Arndt:
Well, if you want to use old software installed via
the package
system, use Debian, not a distro with a rolling release system :)
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/x86_64/ardour/ Or build an
ardour-2 AUR package.
Chris
Blup. blup, blup, . . .
it seems you believe that you cant compile software on debian.
It seems you didn't know debian/sid, which is at least the debain base,
a rolling (never) release system.
11:32 p.m.
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:36:11 +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote:
It seemed the writer of the mail I was replying to
didn't know much
about Arch
You completely missed my point. It's not that unusual that people
install different versions of Ardour parallel. This has absolutely
nothing to do with the policy of what used distro ever.
27 Apr
27 Apr
12:03 a.m.
Am 26.04.2015 um 23:32 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
You completely missed my point.
How so?
It's not that unusual that people install
different versions of Ardour parallel.
I don't deny that there is a need for that.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the policy of
what used distro ever.
However, on Arch it is the default that you get the latest version of a
sofwtare, if you install it via the package management, even if you
don't use the bleeding edge with a VCS package from AUR (the ones ending
in -svn, -git, etc.).
If you want't to use an old version for Ardour alongside the standard
package with the latest version, you need to either install it without
the package management or there needs to be a package for the old
version, which then would not be called "ardour" anymore and thus not
conflict with the newest package.
BTW, there already is an "ardour2" package. Feel free to submit an
ardour3 package to AUR.
Chris
12:13 a.m.
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 00:03:46 +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote:
BTW, there already is an "ardour2" package.
Thanks, I didn't noticed it. After testing Ardour 3, I never was
interested in using Ardour 3. I would like to test Ardour 4 without
losing Ardour 2 and without much effort. This seems to be possible now.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ardour2/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ardour-git/
26 Apr
26 Apr
11:15 p.m.
On 04/26/2015 08:41 AM, Hermann Meyer wrote:
Am 26.04.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Christopher Arndt:
Lotsa people don't know lotsa things, don't they? :)
I use Debian Sid. If that's not rolling enough for anyone, add the
Debian Experimental repository to the collection. I did that for a few
years. (It's a great adventure, by the way!)
Rolling releases have their problems, too. Debian Sid switched to
systemd. Aptosid, a rolling release based on Debian Sid, still hasn't
decided if their kernel is going to support systemd or stick with init.
The result has been mixed; where straight Debian Sid shuts down my
Intel-based server with no problems, Aptosid either doesn't (on my Intel
laptop) or takes 5 minutes to shutdown (on my AMD-based server).
FWIW, Debian Jessie (aka Debian 8) came out yesterday.
--
David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
Well, if you want to use old software installed
via the package
system, use Debian, not a distro with a rolling release system :)
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/x86_64/ardour/ Or build an
ardour-2 AUR package.
Chris
Blup. blup, blup, . . .
it seems you believe that you cant compile software on debian.
It seems you didn't know debian/sid, which is at least the debain base,
a rolling (never) release system.
7:17 p.m.
New subject: Alternatives to PayPal - Was: Building Ardour 4 - Gnu/Debian Wheezy.
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC), OvO OvO wrote:
Some of us don't want to use paypal.
Indeed, PayPal and MasterCard ceased taking donations to WikiLeaks, but
they never ceased payments to NAZIs. When ever possible I don't use
PayPal, but sometimes we don't have a choice and need to use it, at
least I sometimes use PayPal. But what do you recommend? Bitcoin?
Dash (Darkcoin)? The problem with coins is, that you have to pay dues
to get coins by SEPA credit transfer.
8:37 p.m.
New subject: Alternatives to PayPal - Was: Building Ardour 4 - Gnu/Debian Wheezy.
I use https://www.dwolla.com when I can.
On Apr 26, 2015 12:17 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net>
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC), OvO OvO
wrote:
Some of us don't want to use paypal.
Indeed, PayPal and MasterCard ceased taking donations to WikiLeaks, but
they never ceased payments to NAZIs. When ever possible I don't use
PayPal, but sometimes we don't have a choice and need to use it, at
least I sometimes use PayPal. But what do you recommend? Bitcoin?
Dash (Darkcoin)? The problem with coins is, that you have to pay dues
to get coins by SEPA credit transfer.
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27 Apr
27 Apr
12:05 a.m.
On 04/26/2015 06:37 PM, OvO OvO wrote:
(fair, it's free as free speech, not free beer)
but you can't
pay.And now a new feature for the «you don't pay» users, a demo
version that turns silent after 10 minutes (nice feature, really !
In the past "freebie" versions did not save plugin-states, which has
lead a few users to loose plugin-settings when testing a new gratis
version. So the goal was to find a new restriction that does not
modify session-state and is an incentive for *most* users to support
ardour development financially.
If you can offer a better solution and provide data or experience to
confirm that it works to raise income, please don't hesitate to
enlighten us. It'd be sad if ardour development would grind to a halt
because the lead-developer can't eat.
some further reading: https://community.ardour.org/node/8288
Amazing ! so clever to spend time on that, than to
add a payment
system)
Adding this 10 (+ 5 + 2.5 + ..) minute countdown took about 3 mins of
coding. Compare that to whipping up a payment system incl VAT +
international transfers, subscriptions etc etc.. Heck, even paypal
barely manages to do that after 15 years.
aptitude -R install libraptor2-dev [..]
Ardour4 is already available in debian. `sudo apt-get build-dep
ardour4` is a lot easier if you want to build your own.
2c,
robin
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