5 Mar
2006
5 Mar
'06
10:21 a.m.
I had a read through this:
http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq#TheXWindowgraphicalsystemfailsto…
To see how I can get my demudi distro to connect to the internet but I am
getting nowhere.
I loaded up Network settings and added a connection for eth0 Lan card but
when I tell it to conenct it just does nothing. The mouse pointer still
works but I get no reponse from anything and I still can not connect to the
internet.
Can someone guide me through this process please.
Many thanks.
Bal.
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10:41 a.m.
baldobe wrote:
I had a read through this:
http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq#TheXWindowgraphicalsystemfailsto…
To see how I can get my demudi distro to connect to the internet but I am
getting nowhere.
I loaded up Network settings and added a connection for eth0 Lan card but
when I tell it to conenct it just does nothing. The mouse pointer still
works but I get no reponse from anything and I still can not connect to the
internet.
Can someone guide me through this process please.
Hi Bal:
It was a pain for me too, but I finally figured out a way to make it work.
I'm on a high-speed cable modem connection. On some systems it
connects automatically (my laptop with RH9) and on others it doesn't (my
desktop with RH9 and Debian Etch). With RH9 I simply do (as root) :
/etc/init.d/network restart
Unfortunately that doesn't work with my Debian system. I discovered that
I could do this :
pump -i eth0
I'm not sure about the option flag, I'm not at that machine. Btw, I
think you'll need to be the root user.
That completely knocks out eth0. Then I run this command :
ifup eth0
And that makes the connection. Weird, I know, but it works.
As someone else wrote, you may have good luck with the GNOME network
configurator, it's worth a try.
Best,
dp
6:32 p.m.
Dave, I tried the network configurator but had no success with it.
I wonder if someone can point me to a site that contains the details of
how I can connect my machine up to the net. I need something that can
really explain to me what I need to do and why.
Cheers.
Bal.
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Phillips
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:11 PM
To: A list for linux audio users
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] agnula/demudi unable to acces the
internet.
baldobe wrote:
I had a read through this:
http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq#TheXWindowgraphicalsystemfai
lstostart
To see how I can get my demudi distro to connect to the internet but I
am
getting nowhere.
I loaded up Network settings and added a connection for eth0 Lan card
but
when I tell it to conenct it just does nothing. The
mouse pointer
still
works but I get no reponse from anything and I still
can not connect to
the
internet.
Can someone guide me through this process please.
Hi Bal:
It was a pain for me too, but I finally figured out a way to make it
work.
I'm on a high-speed cable modem connection. On some systems it
connects automatically (my laptop with RH9) and on others it doesn't (my
desktop with RH9 and Debian Etch). With RH9 I simply do (as root) :
/etc/init.d/network restart
Unfortunately that doesn't work with my Debian system. I discovered that
I could do this :
pump -i eth0
I'm not sure about the option flag, I'm not at that machine. Btw, I
think you'll need to be the root user.
That completely knocks out eth0. Then I run this command :
ifup eth0
And that makes the connection. Weird, I know, but it works.
As someone else wrote, you may have good luck with the GNOME network
configurator, it's worth a try.
Best,
dp
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7:07 p.m.
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 22:32 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
Dave, I tried the network configurator but had no
success with it.
I wonder if someone can point me to a site that contains the details of
how I can connect my machine up to the net. I need something that can
really explain to me what I need to do and why.
Cheers.
It's possible that demudi simply does not support your network device
(what kind is it?) and you'll have to try another distribution.
Lee
7:31 p.m.
Lee
I connect to the internet via a 3com router, using PPPoE while demudi is
tying to connect using PPPoA.
I do have other distros that are able to connect to the internet,
Xubuntu 32 and 64 bit and a 64 bit DEbian based distro called 64Studio.
I do wonder why demudi would not be able to support my router. Can I
not just copy a file fm one of my other distros?
Bal.
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Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:08 PM
To: A list for linux audio users
Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] agnula/demudi unable to acces the
internet.
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 22:32 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
Dave, I tried the network configurator but had no
success with it.
I wonder if someone can point me to a site that contains the details
of
how I can connect my machine up to the net. I need
something that can
really explain to me what I need to do and why.
Cheers.
It's possible that demudi simply does not support your network device
(what kind is it?) and you'll have to try another distribution.
Lee
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7:41 p.m.
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 23:31 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
Lee
I connect to the internet via a 3com router, using PPPoE while demudi is
tying to connect using PPPoA.
I do have other distros that are able to connect to the internet,
Xubuntu 32 and 64 bit and a 64 bit DEbian based distro called 64Studio.
I do wonder why demudi would not be able to support my router. Can I
not just copy a file fm one of my other distros?
No, it's not that simple.
This is a bug in Demudi, your only hope is to get it fixed. Is it
maintained?
Lee
8:09 p.m.
"This is a bug in Demudi, your only hope is to get it fixed. "
How can I fix it?
" Is it maintained?"
What do you mean? Please explain.
Bal.
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Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:41 PM
To: A list for linux audio users
Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] agnula/demudi unable to acces the
internet.
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 23:31 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
Lee
I connect to the internet via a 3com router, using PPPoE while demudi
is
tying to connect using PPPoA.
I do have other distros that are able to connect to the internet,
Xubuntu 32 and 64 bit and a 64 bit DEbian based distro called
64Studio.
I do wonder why demudi would not be able to support my router. Can I
not just copy a file fm one of my other distros?
No, it's not that simple.
This is a bug in Demudi, your only hope is to get it fixed. Is it
maintained?
Lee
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8:17 p.m.
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 00:09 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
"This is a bug in Demudi, your only hope is to
get it fixed. "
How can I fix it?
" Is it maintained?"
What do you mean? Please explain.
Most distributions have mailing lists and bug tracking systems where you
can report this kind of thing.
Lee
10:39 p.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 23:31 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
I doubt this is a bug in demudi, I'm fairly sure the network
configuration tools are no different to those in Debian or Ubuntu.
I don't understand why you're using either PPPoE or PPPoA, Bal, you
would use these for connecting directly to a modem, surely? Have a look
and check how the other distros are doing it - I would expect them to
talk directly to the router via a straightforward network connection. If
you really have to use PPP for this, then it could be complicated to
configure.
cheers,
tim hall
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Lee
I connect to the internet via a 3com router, using PPPoE while demudi is
tying to connect using PPPoA.
I do have other distros that are able to connect to the internet,
Xubuntu 32 and 64 bit and a 64 bit DEbian based distro called 64Studio.
I do wonder why demudi would not be able to support my router. Can I
not just copy a file fm one of my other distros?
No, it's not that simple.
This is a bug in Demudi, your only hope is to get it fixed. Is it
maintained?
6 Mar
6 Mar
4:25 a.m.
Tim
Maybe I am mistaken about using PPPoE, but that is what my router manual
suggests should be my settings.
I believe that demudi is not even able to see the router, which is
connected via one of the network ports.
How can I check to see what the other distros are doing?
Bal.
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hall
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:39 AM
To: A list for linux audio users
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] agnula/demudi unable to acces the
internet.
Lee Revell wrote:
I doubt this is a bug in demudi, I'm fairly sure the network
configuration tools are no different to those in Debian or Ubuntu.
I don't understand why you're using either PPPoE or PPPoA, Bal, you
would use these for connecting directly to a modem, surely? Have a look
and check how the other distros are doing it - I would expect them to
talk directly to the router via a straightforward network connection. If
you really have to use PPP for this, then it could be complicated to
configure.
cheers,
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On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 23:31 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
>Lee
>
>I connect to the internet via a 3com router, using PPPoE while demudi
is
>tying to connect using PPPoA.
>
>I do have other distros that are able to connect to the internet,
>Xubuntu 32 and 64 bit and a 64 bit DEbian based distro called
64Studio.
I do wonder why demudi would not be able to support my router. Can I
not just copy a file fm one of my other distros?
No, it's not that simple.
This is a bug in Demudi, your only hope is to get it fixed. Is it
maintained? 
6:40 a.m.
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:25:07 -0000
"Bal Dobe" <baldobe2000(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
Tim
Maybe I am mistaken about using PPPoE, but that is what my router manual
suggests should be my settings.
I believe that demudi is not even able to see the router, which is
connected via one of the network ports.
How can I check to see what the other distros are doing?
The normal mode of operation with a modern router/modem combo is that
the router handles all the ADSL/PPPoE stuff. To your local lan it just
looks like a normal gateway. And usually one with a DHCP server in it,
too.
So, basically, if your router is setup correctly (they usually offer a
webinterface) and your ethernet card driver is loaded in linux (check
i.e. the output of ifconfig -a (as root)), all you need to do is
dhclient eth0
and after that you should be set. This command gives your box an ip
address, default router, etc. At least you should now be able to access
the router's webinterface to configure your username/pw etc. for the
ADSL connection. Usually the router sits on an address like 192.168.0.1
(check the manual).
Flo
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9:21 a.m.
Bal Dobe wrote:
Tim
Maybe I am mistaken about using PPPoE, but that is what my router manual
suggests should be my settings.
I believe that demudi is not even able to see the router, which is
connected via one of the network ports.
How can I check to see what the other distros are doing?
Bal, the questions you are asking go beyond the specific expertise of
certainly me, and to an extent this list. I'm not saying don't ask, just
that you sound like you need some intensive hand-holding in order to get
started, first you need to train yourself up to ask questions in a way
that will get you the answers you need. The problems you are facing are
really similar to what I had to do when I first started using Linux,
many of them, once you've figured them out, you will probably thankfully
forget. I'm like this with PPP - Nowadays I will do anything I have to,
including buying a different modem, to avoid having to configure PPP.
However, the fact that your other three installs work out of the box,
makes me think that a normal network connection should work - I don't
know how to check for these things properly - If a window opens up in
gkrellm, I assume its working. ;]
I found my local Linux Users Group very handy for these sort of problems
- eth0/ppp configuration is very similar in all Linux distros.
The first two links here were essential for me to understand how to get
the best results out of mailing lists and the software you have
installed for troubleshooting purposes.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://wiki.debian.org/
http://www.linux.org/
And for A/DeMuDi specific questions, of course there is
users(a)lists.agnula.org - although you will probably get repeats of the
same answers that you just got here, but if you really think you have
hit a bug that would be the right place to mention it.
Sorry, I can't be any more immediate help on this subject, good luck!
cheers,
tim hall
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9:39 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: agnula/demudi unable to acces the internet.
tim hall wrote:
Bal Dobe wrote:
Hi
i use ethernet card : it works
I only had to activate the connection that's all...
regards
Tim
Maybe I am mistaken about using PPPoE, but that is what my router manual
suggests should be my settings.
I believe that demudi is not even able to see the router, which is
connected via one of the network ports.
How can I check to see what the other distros are doing?
Bal, the questions you are asking go beyond the specific expertise of
certainly me, and to an extent this list. I'm not saying don't ask, just
that you sound like you need some intensive hand-holding in order to get
started, first you need to train yourself up to ask questions in a way
that will get you the answers you need. The problems you are facing are
really similar to what I had to do when I first started using Linux,
many of them, once you've figured them out, you will probably thankfully
forget. I'm like this with PPP - Nowadays I will do anything I have to,
including buying a different modem, to avoid having to configure PPP.
However, the fact that your other three installs work out of the box,
makes me think that a normal network connection should work - I don't
know how to check for these things properly - If a window opens up in
gkrellm, I assume its working. ;]
I found my local Linux Users Group very handy for these sort of problems
- eth0/ppp configuration is very similar in all Linux distros.
The first two links here were essential for me to understand how to get
the best results out of mailing lists and the software you have
installed for troubleshooting purposes.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://wiki.debian.org/
http://www.linux.org/
And for A/DeMuDi specific questions, of course there is
users(a)lists.agnula.org - although you will
probably get repeats of the same answers that you just got here, but if
you really think you have hit a bug that would be the right place to
mention it.
Sorry, I can't be any more immediate help on this subject, good luck!
cheers,
tim hall
/|\
9:54 a.m.
tim hall wrote:
Bal, the questions you are asking go beyond the
specific expertise of
certainly me, and to an extent this list. I'm not saying don't ask,
just that you sound like you need some intensive hand-holding in order
to get started, first you need to train yourself up to ask questions
in a way that will get you the answers you need. The problems you are
facing are really similar to what I had to do when I first started
using Linux, many of them, once you've figured them out, you will
probably thankfully forget. I'm like this with PPP - Nowadays I will
do anything I have to, including buying a different modem, to avoid
having to configure PPP. However, the fact that your other three
installs work out of the box, makes me think that a normal network
connection should work - I don't know how to check for these things
properly - If a window opens up in gkrellm, I assume its working. ;]
[snip]
Hi Tim, hi Bal:
Alas, Bal's experience only echoes what I've gone through so many
times. I don't know why network connectivity has rarely been transparent
for me, but there you have it. I use a shell script to launch my net
connection under RH9 on my desktop machine because it won't
automatically connect. A simple '/etc/init.d/network start' does the
trick; however, on my laptop, with the same version of RH9 and connected
to the same router, everything autoconnects just fine (except that
sometimes the system simply doesn't see my network hardware, a PCMCIA
interface).
My desktop machine has a Tulip ethernet interface connected to a
cable modem. The modem heads to a Linksys router. I believe that
perhaps the Tulip interface and/or hardware is the real culprit here,
and neither Debian nor RH9 handle it well. To reiterate, the only way I
can connect with my Demudi system is to use pump to knock eth0 out of
the ifconfig report, then start the net connection with 'ifup eth0'. It
works fine then, but if I close the connection with ifdown and leave it
closed for a long while (say 8 hours or longer) I have to reboot the
machine so the system finds the interface again. So, is this Debian's
problem, a kernel driver problem, an Ethernet interface problem, or a
router problem ? I don't know and I don't care to spend the time finding
out.
Bal, I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. Tim's advice is good, you
should definitely join the Demudi mail-list (if you haven't already) and
ask there too (if you haven't already). But keep at it: If you've had
this hardware working for you under another Linux system, you'll get it
working under Demudi.
Btw, I'm running Demudi 1.3 here.
Best,
dp
6:43 p.m.
Thanks for that Tim.
I will see what I can achieve from the resources you pointed me to.
Bal.
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:21 PM
To: A list for linux audio users
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] agnula/demudi unable to acces the
internet.
Bal Dobe wrote:
Tim
Maybe I am mistaken about using PPPoE, but that is what my router
manual
suggests should be my settings.
I believe that demudi is not even able to see the router, which is
connected via one of the network ports.
How can I check to see what the other distros are doing?
Bal, the questions you are asking go beyond the specific expertise of
certainly me, and to an extent this list. I'm not saying don't ask, just
that you sound like you need some intensive hand-holding in order to get
started, first you need to train yourself up to ask questions in a way
that will get you the answers you need. The problems you are facing are
really similar to what I had to do when I first started using Linux,
many of them, once you've figured them out, you will probably thankfully
forget. I'm like this with PPP - Nowadays I will do anything I have to,
including buying a different modem, to avoid having to configure PPP.
However, the fact that your other three installs work out of the box,
makes me think that a normal network connection should work - I don't
know how to check for these things properly - If a window opens up in
gkrellm, I assume its working. ;]
I found my local Linux Users Group very handy for these sort of problems
- eth0/ppp configuration is very similar in all Linux distros.
The first two links here were essential for me to understand how to get
the best results out of mailing lists and the software you have
installed for troubleshooting purposes.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://wiki.debian.org/
http://www.linux.org/
And for A/DeMuDi specific questions, of course there is
users(a)lists.agnula.org - although you will probably get repeats of the
same answers that you just got here, but if you really think you have
hit a bug that would be the right place to mention it.
Sorry, I can't be any more immediate help on this subject, good luck!
cheers,
tim hall
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5 Mar
8:27 p.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 22:32 +0000, Bal Dobe wrote:
Yeah, Bal, try doing an "ifconfig eth0 up" followed by a simple
"ifconfig" to see if eth0 has indeed come up and if it's settings are
complete (IP, netmask, etc.). Post results here for "expert"
interpretation.
Frank
p.s.
Here's a piece of mine (ifconfig) for your reference:
eth0 xxxx
inet addr:172.16.16.1 Bcast:172.16.16.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
xxxx
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
xxxx
Dave, I tried the network configurator but had no
success with it.
I wonder if someone can point me to a site that contains the details of
how I can connect my machine up to the net. I need something that can
really explain to me what I need to do and why.
Cheers.
It's possible that demudi simply does not support your network device
(what kind is it?) and you'll have to try another distribution.
Lee
7:36 p.m.
Le 05 Mar à 22:32, Bal Dobe ecrivait:
Dave, I tried the network configurator but had no
success with it.
I wonder if someone can point me to a site that contains the details of
how I can connect my machine up to the net. I need something that can
really explain to me what I need to do and why.
It's difficult to help as long as you don't indicate the way you
connect to the internet, but if you have a DSL connection, the command
pppoeconf, as root, will do the job. AFAIK it's the standard way in
Debian.
Good luck,
Y.
8:07 p.m.
I have an ADSL connection.
I would be happy to describe how I connect if someone will just tell me
what they need to know.
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Potin
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:37 PM
To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] agnula/demudi unable to acces the
internet.
Le 05 Mar à 22:32, Bal Dobe ecrivait:
Dave, I tried the network configurator but had no
success with it.
I wonder if someone can point me to a site that contains the details
of
how I can connect my machine up to the net. I need
something that can
really explain to me what I need to do and why.
It's difficult to help as long as you don't indicate the way you
connect to the internet, but if you have a DSL connection, the command
pppoeconf, as root, will do the job. AFAIK it's the standard way in
Debian.
Good luck,
Y.
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6 Mar
10:23 a.m.
On Sunday 05 March 2006 15:21, baldobe wrote:
I had a read through this:
http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq#TheXWindowgraphicalsystemfailsto
start
To see how I can get my demudi distro to connect to the internet but I am
getting nowhere.
I loaded up Network settings and added a connection for eth0 Lan card but
when I tell it to conenct it just does nothing. The mouse pointer still
works but I get no reponse from anything and I still can not connect to the
internet.
Can someone guide me through this process please.
Many thanks.
Bal.
Hi Bal. Just a thought, as the network works with the other distro's. I know I
had problems with Debian not loading the 8139too driver for my Realtek8139
network card and had to add it to /etc/modules. Will you post the output of
lsmod , so as to see which modules are loading. And also the output of
lspci , so as to check the network card.
Nigel.
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