8 Feb
2014
8 Feb
'14
7:44 p.m.
On 8 Feb 2014 18:16, "mark hadman" <markhadman(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Interesting. I can't try it with Ingen though, because its dependency
ganv has been unbuildable for years (Arch Linux). Does it work with
another lv2 host?
I'd say no. Only Ingen provides support for CV port and the possibility to
connect plugins the modular way.
Has this issue with Ganv and Arch Linux be reported to David?
On 8 February 2014 17:13, Aurélien Leblond
<blablack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Today I just released the version 1.0.2 of the ams-lv2 plugins.
> ams-lv2 is a port of alsa-modular-synth in the lv2 format to create
> modular synth primarily with Ingen.
> Source code and more information available on the website:
> http://objectivewave.wordpress.com/ams-lv2/
>
> To celebrate this release, I created two videos:
>
> The first is a demo of 3 synths created with ams-lv2 and Ingen (a
> bass, a lead and a pad) soloed and inside a mix:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWfF71NerkQ
>
> I created as well this first tutorial on the basics of ams-lv2:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuQZajaSw6M
>
>
> I would as well like to take advantage to thank a lot of people who
> helped with this project:
> - David for his patience to answer my 1000+ questions and for all his
> work on lv2 and Ingen
> - Robin for creating the sisco.lv2 plugins, they are featured in the
> demo and they are a great help when creating modular synths
> - Harry for the dials used in the GUI of ams-lv2
> - and finally Fons for creating the great alsa-modular-synth in the
first
place
> - the whole Linux Audio community in general
>
> I really hope you enjoy these plugins and find them useful somehow!
>
> Aurélien
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-audio-user mailing list
> Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
8 Feb
8 Feb
8:26 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On 02/08/2014 06:44 PM, Aurélien Leblond wrote:
On 8 Feb 2014 18:16, "mark hadman" <markhadman(a)googlemail.com
<mailto:markhadman@googlemail.com>> wrote:
The latest Carla development code has support for LV2 CV ports (and worker).
A first beta version of it (ie, 2.0-beta1) will be released next week.
Interesting. I can't try it with Ingen though, because its dependency
ganv has been unbuildable for years (Arch Linux). Does it work with
another lv2 host?
I'd say no. Only Ingen provides support for CV port and the
possibility to connect plugins the modular way.
11:20 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Aurélien Leblond <blablack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 8 Feb 2014 18:16, "mark hadman" <markhadman(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
of course, you can run ingen.lv2 inside any other host. nesting/recursion,
all the way down!
Interesting. I can't try it with Ingen though, because its dependency
ganv has been unbuildable for years (Arch Linux). Does it work with
another lv2 host?
I'd say no. Only Ingen provides support for CV port and the possibility to
connect plugins the modular way.
9 Feb
9 Feb
8:04 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On 08/02/14 18:44, Aurélien Leblond wrote:
On 8 Feb 2014 18:16, "mark hadman" <markhadman(a)googlemail.com
<mailto:markhadman@googlemail.com>> wrote:
From http://dev.drobilla.net/wiki/IngenInstallation
"The easiest way to build Ingen from SVN is to build the entire
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad repository (since there are dependencies
between the various projects)."
build directory includes:
build ingen lilv patchage README sratom wscript
eugene INSTALL machina plugins serd suil
ganv jalv naub raul sord waf
rob
Interesting. I can't try it with Ingen though, because its dependency
ganv has been unbuildable for years (Arch Linux). Does it work with
another lv2 host?
8:49 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 07:04:32PM +0000, rob wrote:
"The easiest way to build Ingen from SVN is to
build the entire
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad repository (since there are dependencies
between the various projects)."
build directory includes:
build ingen lilv patchage README sratom wscript
eugene INSTALL machina plugins serd suil
ganv jalv naub raul sord waf
Tried that yesterday evening. The configure step for ingen
complains about a missing boost/* file. But I do have boost
installed, including the development parts.
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
8:53 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 07:04:32PM +0000, rob wrote:
where is boost installed? it does not come with a pkg-config file, so if it
is not discoverable "by default" it always causes problems.
"The easiest way to build Ingen from SVN is
to build the entire
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad repository (since there are dependencies
between the various projects)."
build directory includes:
build ingen lilv patchage README sratom wscript
eugene INSTALL machina plugins serd suil
ganv jalv naub raul sord waf
Tried that yesterday evening. The configure step for ingen
complains about a missing boost/* file. But I do have boost
installed, including the development parts.
8:52 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:04 AM, rob <rob(a)rektau.ukfsn.org> wrote:
From http://dev.drobilla.net/wiki/IngenInstallation
"The easiest way to build Ingen from SVN is to build the entire
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad repository (since there are dependencies
between the various projects)."
build directory includes:
build ingen lilv patchage README sratom wscript
eugene INSTALL machina plugins serd suil
ganv jalv naub raul sord waf
Unfortunately there is wide gulf between the "easiest way to build"
applications and the easiest way to install and manage them.
I guess Mark's point is that it has been impossible to build ingen from the
AUR scripts for some time, which is sadly true. Trying to mix svn of some
of drobilla libraries with AUR or Arch packages of those libraries, or even
the full svn tree with apps that depend on the official packages, quickly
results in a mess.
10 Feb
10 Feb
12:03 a.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On 02/09/2014 08:52 PM, michael noble wrote:
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:04 AM, rob
<rob(a)rektau.ukfsn.org> wrote:
> "The easiest way to build Ingen from SVN is
to build the entire
> http://svn.drobilla.net/lad repository (since there are dependencies
> between the various projects)."
[..]
Trying to mix svn of some
of drobilla libraries with AUR or Arch packages of those libraries, or even
the full svn tree with apps that depend on the official packages, quickly
results in a mess.
There's no need to mix.
--------
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$HOME/tmp/lv2/lib/pkgconfig/
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tmp/lv2/lib
svn co http://lv2plug.in/repo/trunk lv2
cd lv2
./waf configure --prefix=$HOME/tmp/lv2/ || exit
./waf || exit
./waf install
cd ..
svn co http://svn.drobilla.net/lad/trunk lad
cd lad
./waf configure --prefix=$HOME/tmp/lv2/ || exit
./waf || exit
./waf install
exec ~/tmp/lv2/bin/ingen
--------
1:27 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On 9 February 2014 19:52, michael noble <looplog(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ganv doesn't build at all; I've already tried the ganv-svn PKGBUILD in
Arch. Canvas.cpp makes a call to graphviz (which is 'a mess' to
paraphrase someone involved in maintaining ganv) with the wrong number
of arguments. I guess I could also try graphviz-git (instead of the
Arch binary) in the vague hope that the authors of graphviz have
reverted the change that broke ganv, but graphviz-git requests over
100MB of dependencies to build, for which I don't have the bandwidth
to burn unless someone out there can assure me that it's worthwhile.
"The easiest way to build Ingen from SVN is to build the entire
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad repository (since there are dependencies between
the various projects)."
I guess Mark's point is that it has been impossible to build ingen from the
AUR scripts for some time, which is sadly true. Trying to mix svn of some of
drobilla libraries with AUR or Arch packages of those libraries, or even the
full svn tree with apps that depend on the official packages, quickly
results in a mess.
14 Feb
14 Feb
9:29 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
Well, I managed to get this all up and running on Arch Linux. I had to
edit the ganv-svn PKGBUILD, as it was stuck using an old revision from
svn (from a couple of years ago I guess). Getting it to build from the
newest version resolved the issues with it not building against
graphviz. I also had to edit the 'provides' field in several PKGBUILDS
and rebuild them, as it seems there is some strict version checking
going on somewhere in the drobilla config files, which does not allow
for building one svn against another svn package (it's checking for
the presence of release versions rather than svn revisions).
And after all that, I was able to (for the first time ever) get ingen
up and running. Unfortunately a couple of minutes playing around seems
to be all I can get before hitting a segfault (which has always been
my experience with AMS anyway, on various different machines and
distros). Now, I don't have much experience of bugfinding, so perhaps
before I file issue # 1 on the ams-lv2 bug tracker, somebody could
suggest a sensible route to determining whether it's ams-lv2 or ingen
that's to blame.
Learning, as ever....
On 10 February 2014 12:26, mark hadman <markhadman(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
On 9 February 2014 19:52, michael noble
<looplog(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ganv doesn't build at all; I've already tried the ganv-svn PKGBUILD in
Arch. Canvas.cpp makes a call to graphviz (which is 'a mess' to
paraphrase someone involved in maintaining ganv) with the wrong number
of arguments. I guess I could also try graphviz-git (instead of the
Arch binary) in the vague hope that the authors of graphviz have
reverted the change that broke ganv, but graphviz-git requests over
100MB of dependencies to build, for which I don't have the bandwidth
to burn unless someone out there can assure me that it's worthwhile.
"The easiest way to build Ingen from SVN is to build the entire
http://svn.drobilla.net/lad repository (since there are dependencies between
the various projects)."
I guess Mark's point is that it has been impossible to build ingen from the
AUR scripts for some time, which is sadly true. Trying to mix svn of some of
drobilla libraries with AUR or Arch packages of those libraries, or even the
full svn tree with apps that depend on the official packages, quickly
results in a mess.
9:40 p.m.
New subject: ams-lv2 1.0.2 and a tutorial
On 02/14/2014 09:29 PM, mark hadman wrote:
Well, I managed to get this all up and running on Arch
Linux. I had to
edit the ganv-svn PKGBUILD, as it was stuck using an old revision from
svn (from a couple of years ago I guess). Getting it to build from the
newest version resolved the issues with it not building against
graphviz. I also had to edit the 'provides' field in several PKGBUILDS
and rebuild them, as it seems there is some strict version checking
going on somewhere in the drobilla config files, which does not allow
for building one svn against another svn package (it's checking for
the presence of release versions rather than svn revisions).
And after all that, I was able to (for the first time ever) get ingen
up and running. Unfortunately a couple of minutes playing around seems
to be all I can get before hitting a segfault (which has always been
my experience with AMS anyway, on various different machines and
distros). Now, I don't have much experience of bugfinding, so perhaps
before I file issue # 1 on the ams-lv2 bug tracker, somebody could
suggest a sensible route to determining whether it's ams-lv2 or ingen
that's to blame.
Learning, as ever....
I made working PKGBUILDs for the required packages as well, which seem
to work fine for me so far. Most depend on the respective svn versions
explicitly, as that is probably the safer bet in general. I sent them to
speps, the current AUR maintainer, but am still waiting on a response.
For anyone interested in the meantime:
ingen-svn: http://pastebin.com/BhDW3t14
raul-svn: http://pastebin.com/ggy9deaY
ganv-svn: http://pastebin.com/GhJ2sbSa
lilv-svn: http://pastebin.com/6hjRzCKE
suil-svn: http://pastebin.com/qhAt9MDw
lv2-svn: http://pastebin.com/DG0gTWsZ
Cheers,
prettyvanilla
3936
days inactive
3942
days old
linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org
11 comments
9 participants
participants (9)
-
Aurélien Leblond -
Filipe Coelho -
Fons Adriaensen -
mark hadman -
michael noble -
Paul Davis -
prettyvanilla -
rob -
Robin Gareus