17 Aug
2014
17 Aug
'14
8:04 a.m.
I get these messages from JACK when I start it using QJackCtl, trying to
use my AudioPhile 2496. This is running on Debian Sid, uname -a reports
"3.14-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.15-2 (2014-08-09) x86_64 GNU/Linux"
(but I was getting the same error on kernel 3.02.4 before that.) I am a
member of the audio group.
JACK starts and runs fine if I pick the "default" interface, but that
doesn't play any audio through the Audiophile. (I have no idea what it's
playing through.)
While parts of Pulse are installed, according to "killall pulse" Pulse
audio is not running. Trying to remove the installed Pulse packages
wanted to also remove a bunch of other apps, such as csound, GIMP, some
KDE4 apps, etc.
I found an old thread on a forum where the poster said installing
"dbus-python" fixed it, but the closest package I could find similar to
that name is "python-dbus" and it's installed.
This is a fresh Debian Sid install and my first experience with Debian's
move to systemd instead of good old reliable init, so could that be
messing things up? Or that it's using PAM (my prior Debian experience
didn't include PAM) and htop shows a number of (sd-pam) processes running)?
jackdmp 1.9.10
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2014 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio2
creating alsa driver ...
hw:M2496|hw:M2496|512|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
configuring for 48000Hz, period = 512 frames (10.7 ms), buffer = 2 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
21:08:30.707 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall
operation failed. - Server communication error. Please check the
messages window for more info.
JackPosixProcessSync::LockedTimedWait error usec = 5000000 err =
Connection timed out
Driver is not running
Cannot create new client
Cannot read socket fd = 14 err = Success
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot open qjackctl client
ALSA: poll time out, polled for 15999022 usecs
JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping...
21:10:14.445 JACK is stopping...
Jack main caught signal 15
Released audio card Audio2
audio_reservation_finish
21:10:14.463 JACK was stopped successfully.
21:10:14.463 Post-shutdown script...
21:10:14.463 killall jackd
jackd: no process found
21:10:14.879 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.
aplay -l lists the following audio devices:
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1828S Analog [VT1828S Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1828S Digital [VT1828S Digital]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 2: VT1828S Alt Analog [VT1828S Alt Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: M2496 [M Audio Audiophile 24/96], device 0: ICE1712 multi
[ICE1712 multi]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
These problems originally began when I had to reset the BIOS, which
re-enabled the motherboard audio. I tried disabling the motherboard
audio, but then ALSA wouldn't load at all.
My replacement desktop system is too modern to support such old
equipment as the Audiophile, it would be nice to have it working in the
old desktop system where it worked fine for many years, but now no
longer works.
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17 Aug
17 Aug
10:25 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] [Bulk] JACK not working with Audiophile 2496 anymore
At first I would clean the card configurations
sudo -i
mv /etc/asound.conf /root/
mv ~/.asoundrc /root/
mv /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf /root/
and after that add a
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
with this content only:
options snd slots=snd_ice1712
Reboot and then start jackd again, using hw:0.
10:34 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] [Bulk] JACK not working with Audiophile 2496 anymore
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 22:04 -1000, david wrote:
Trying to remove the installed Pulse packages wanted
to also remove a
bunch of other apps, such as csound, GIMP, some
KDE4 apps, etc.
Build an empty dummy package for the pulseaudio package only, _not_ for
libpulse and other packages.
With equivs building an empty dummy package is easy to do.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self
connect requests"
What does this message mean? Perhaps you should start jackd by command
line instead of QjackCtl.
jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p256 -n2
10:38 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] [Bulk] JACK not working with Audiophile 2496 anymore
Sorry for the pps:
In addition you should unload the driver for the unwanted card:
sudo modprobe -r snd_what_ever_the_driver_is named
10:43 a.m.
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Four mails aren't allowed [1] :(, but perhaps you missed to uncheck
something in the QjackCtl Setup... > Misc tab >
[ ] Enable D-Bus interface
;)
11:12 a.m.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:04:03 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
My replacement desktop system is too modern to support
such old
equipment as the Audiophile, it would be nice to have it working in the
old desktop system where it worked fine for many years, but now no
longer works.
This is really bad news. I've been using a 2496 for ages and found it extremely
reliable. No more updates for me then :(
--
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http://www.musically.me.uk
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Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
12:06 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] [Bulk] Re: JACK not working with Audiophile 2496 anymore
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 12:12 +0100, Will Godfrey wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:04:03 -1000
david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
There still are mobos with PCI available. I own a mobo with PCI and
PCIe. There are no issues with my two _PCI_ envy24 cards from TerraTec,
but many problems with my RME HDSPe AIO _PCIe_ card. "HDSPe AIO is the
newly developed PCI Express version of the HDSP 9632." - RME
I should have bought the less expensive HDSP 9632 instead ;). For
testing purpose I installed Windows XP, my RME sound card isn't broken,
it definitively is a Linux driver issue and perhaps PCIe support on
Linux too, but maybe PCIe support is not an issue.
IOW upgrading Linux software shouldn't cause issues for a Envy24 audio
cards, just buying a new mobo without PCI makes old cards unusable.
My replacement desktop system is too modern to
support such old
equipment as the Audiophile, it would be nice to have it working in the
old desktop system where it worked fine for many years, but now no
longer works.
This is really bad news. I've been using a 2496 for ages and found it extremely
reliable. No more updates for me then :( 
18 Aug
18 Aug
12:56 a.m.
On 17/08/14 18:04, david wrote:
I get these messages from JACK when I start it using
QJackCtl, trying
to use my AudioPhile 2496. This is running on Debian Sid, uname -a
reports "3.14-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.15-2 (2014-08-09) x86_64
GNU/Linux" (but I was getting the same error on kernel 3.02.4 before
that.) I am a member of the audio group.
JACK starts and runs fine if I pick the "default" interface, but that
doesn't play any audio through the Audiophile. (I have no idea what
it's playing through.)
I had a similar issue on my siduction audio workstation
install. I'm
using Cadence rather than QJackCtl but that shouldn't make any
difference. I think Jack was trying to use hdmi audio which was card0.
You need to make the 2496 card0 instead. I made an alsa conf file in
/etc/modprobe.d/ with these lines:
options snd_ice1712 index=0
options snd_hda_intel index=1
Now it works perfectly. Kernel is currently 3.16-1.towo-siduction-amd64
#1 SMP PREEMPT but 3.15 worked well also.
siduction so far seems to be excellent for audio. I started building
this dedicated to audio after several crashes with Mixbus in KXStudio
which most likely related to Ubuntu-specific window management.
Roger
8:47 a.m.
On 08/17/2014 02:56 PM, Roger wrote:
Haven't a clue. Don't particularly recall noticing it before.
On 17/08/14 18:04, david wrote:
Thanks, that puts the cards in the right order ... will see if it
addresses my problem. Specifically selecting the Audiophile in QJackCtl
doesn't make it work, so I don't think it's because JACK is trying to
use audio device 0.
Anyway, it didn't fix the problem.
I tried this suggestion from Ralf:
I get these messages from JACK when I start it
using QJackCtl,
trying to use my AudioPhile 2496. This is running on Debian Sid,
uname -a reports "3.14-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.15-2 (2014-08-09)
x86_64 GNU/Linux" (but I was getting the same error on kernel
3.02.4 before that.) I am a member of the audio group.
JACK starts and runs fine if I pick the "default" interface, but
that doesn't play any audio through the Audiophile. (I have no idea
what it's playing through.)
I had a similar issue on my siduction audio
workstation install. I'm
using Cadence rather than QJackCtl but that shouldn't make any
difference. I think Jack was trying to use hdmi audio which was
card0. You need to make the 2496 card0 instead. I made an alsa conf
file in /etc/modprobe.d/ with these lines: options snd_ice1712
index=0 options snd_hda_intel index=1
Now it works perfectly. Kernel is currently
3.16-1.towo-siduction-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT but 3.15 worked well
also. siduction so far seems to be excellent for audio. I started
building this dedicated to audio after several crashes with Mixbus in
KXStudio which most likely related to Ubuntu-specific window
management. Four mails aren't allowed [1] , but perhaps you
missed to uncheck
something in the QjackCtl Setup... > Misc tab > [ ] Enable D-Bus
interface
Enabling that option and restarting QJackCtl informs me:
ERROR: Driver is not running.
ERROR: Cannot open client name = dbusapi
ERROR: Failed to create dbusapi jack client
Selecting the HW:M2496 option from QJackCtl's dropdown and starting JACK
gave me this message:
DBUS: Jack server could not be started.
I never had to have DBUS enabled under QJackCtl's Misc tab to make the
2496 work before.
Also from Ralf:
self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
What does this message mean? Perhaps you should start jackd by command line instead
of QjackCtl.
jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p256 -n2
Tried that. The terminal window hangs a moment, then reports
"JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping..." Trying to start
Yoshimi with that window open only adds "Driver is not running, cannot
create new client." Changing the -dhw:0 to -d:hw:M2496 gives me the same
results.
Now let's try Ralf's other suggestion:
At first I would clean the card configurations
sudo -i mv /etc/asound.conf /root/ mv ~/.asoundrc /root/ mv
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf /root/
and after that add a
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
with this content only:
options snd slots=snd_ice1712
Reboot and then start jackd again, using hw:0.
Can't find any "/etc/asound.conf"; wrong file name?
There's no .asoundrc in my home directory.
There's no alsa-base.conf file in /etc/modprobe.d. There's only the
alsa.conf created per Roger's instructions earlier. Let's try renaming
that to alsa-base.conf ... well, that was interesting. Doing that leaves
me with only the built-in devices: HDMI (card 0) and HDA ATI SB (card
1). Let's go back to what it was called before, at least the Audiophile
appeared on the list of options.
Now let's try Ralf's version of alsa-base.conf. That brought back the
Audiophile as card 0, but the other audio devices are still listed. And
JACK still reports "read error, stopping..."
Finally, a private email from James:
You need to change your alsa configuration to force
ICE1712 driver to
card 1. I would also disable on board sound then troubleshoot the no
sound issue. It only complicates things to have 2 cards..
Someone mentioned an alternative to QJackCtl, Cadence? Can't find that
in Debian Sid repository.
I see a qdbus and a qdbus-qt5 package in the repository. qdbus is
installed. Do I need to add the qdbus-qt5 package? The libqd5dbus5
package IS installed ... Trying to remove that lib offers to remove a
bunch of other QT5 libs, along with Luminance HDR graphics app.
Lets add the qdbus-qt5 package ... well, JACK still won't start from the
command line when I specify the Audiophile, which aplay -l lists as card 0.
When I had the onboard sound disabled before (via BIOS), ALSA would not
start at all. Let's try that again, just in case it simplifies things.
OK, now that aplay shows me the Audiophile as card 0 and HDMI as card 1.
Still doesn't work. Tried with default, Audiophile and ice_1712. They
all report the same problem.
For further test, booted an old Ubuntu Studio 12.10 CD I have here and
the Audiophile worked just fine. So I copied the
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file from the running US12 environment to
my system partition, rebooted, and QJackCtl starts jack with no problems
and Yoshimi is currently making lovely sounds through the Audiophile.
The only audio devices that appear are the Audiophile (card 0) and HDMI
(card 1).
So we can call this one fixed. Thanks for the info and help!
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9:42 a.m.
...> So I copied the
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file from the running
US12 environment to
my system partition, rebooted, and QJackCtl starts jack with no problems
and Yoshimi is currently making lovely sounds through the Audiophile.
The only audio devices that appear are the Audiophile (card 0) and HDMI
(card 1).
Maybe paste your current, working contents of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf here so if
anybody else is having a similar problem they can see what worked for you :)
Dale.
10:30 a.m.
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On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 09:42 +0000, Kaza Kore wrote:
Maybe paste your current, working contents
of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf here so if anybody else is having a
similar problem they can see what worked for you :)
And/or add a [solved] to the subject.
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19 Aug
19 Aug
8:04 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] [SOLVED] Re: JACK not working with Audiophile 2496 anymore
On 08/17/2014 10:46 PM, david wrote:
On 08/17/2014 02:56 PM, Roger wrote:
> On 17/08/14 18:04, david wrote:
>> I get these messages from JACK when I start it using QJackCtl,
>> trying to use my AudioPhile 2496. This is running on Debian Sid,
>> uname -a reports "3.14-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.15-2 (2014-08-09)
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux" (but I was getting the same error on kernel
>> 3.02.4 before that.) I am a member of the audio group.
>>
>> JACK starts and runs fine if I pick the "default" interface, but
>> that doesn't play any audio through the Audiophile. (I have no idea
>> what it's playing through.)
For further test, booted an old Ubuntu Studio 12.10 CD
I have here and
the Audiophile worked just fine. So I copied the
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file from the running US12 environment to
my system partition, rebooted, and QJackCtl starts jack with no problems
and Yoshimi is currently making lovely sounds through the Audiophile.
The only audio devices that appear are the Audiophile (card 0) and HDMI
(card 1).
As others on the list suggested, here's the alsa-base.conf file I copied
as-is from Ubuntu Studio 12.10 live CD. I didn't add or remove anything
from it; I'm sure there's stuff in there that doesn't need to be there
anymore! (Also, watch out for wordwraps!)
# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd $CMDLINE_OPTS && {
/sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe
--quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }
#
# Workaround at bug #499695 (reverted in Ubuntu see LP #319505)
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm $CMDLINE_OPTS &&
{ /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer
$CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-mixer-oss
; : ; }
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq $CMDLINE_OPTS &&
{ /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe
--quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
#
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi
$CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-midi ;
: ; }
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1
$CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist
snd-emu10k1-synth ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx
$CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }
# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway)
install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS &&
{ /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist saa7134-alsa ; : ; }
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options saa7134-alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
options snd-usb-ua101 index=-2
options snd-usb-us122l index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
# Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
# Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2
# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
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