On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 14:28 +0300, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: Why on earth? People should use the tools they feel comfortable with. Why limit yourself to "the software which runs on this platform"? I understand there would be some advertisement value to having music which is "100% produced within Linux", but further than that it is a bit short-sighted. Music is made with whatever floats your boat (or the musicians boat). The more different kinds of boats you can anchor into your harbour (=platform, here Linux) the more lucrative your harbour is. If we advertise, "here is music made completely in Linux, nothing else", it undermines the fact that you can use external hardware effects, synths, real drums, even some VSTs in Linux. Just like with the "big boys". Music is not about the tools. Advertisements can be about the tools, though.. :) -- Sampo Savolainen <v2(a)iki.fi>

Juhana Sadeharju <kouhia(a)nic.funet.fi> writes: There is just nothing more flexible and intuitive then the "interface" of a real world instrument. Synthesized sounds are nice, but putting all the variations in dynamics and other aspects of the sound together is a pain IMO. It is just much more fun to take a maultrommel and bang away with it than trying to synth it and then get a track together which doesnt feel like a midi file without dynamics and exact quantisation :-) -- CYa, Mario

On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 14:28 +0300, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: You gotta be kidding. Are you suggesting to replace a Kurzweil K2661, or an Alesis Andromeda, or a Hartmann Neuron with ZynAddSubFX? And (besides Kurz) I'm not even mentioning the big classic workstations (Korg Triton, Roland Fantom, Yamaha Motif). Even my "little" Alesis Ion ("little" as in "it does 50% of what the Andromeda can do for 25% the price") is not replaceable by Zyn. Now, to use Zyn _in_addition_ to a powerful hardware synth, I can understand that. I fiddle with the Ion often, yet I still find Zyn nice and useful. It's a pain to use a softsynth if you're used to the convenience of a palpable interface of a hardsynth (especially if it's an excellent design like the Ion, with immediate access to pretty much any function on it's own separate physical knob or button), but hey, if it makes nice sounds then it's ok. Heck, when the Alesis Fusion gets released (any time now), I'll get it if I can snag the money from somewhere, and that's while continuing to use softsynths such as ZynAddSubFX. But "replace"?... Not in the foreseeable future. Have a look, compare features and draw your own conclusions: http://www.kurzweilmusicsystems.com/products.html?Id=281 http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=10 http://www.hartmann-music.com/home/ http://www.korg.com/gear/product_info.asp?a_prod_no=TRITONEXTREME&categ… http://www.rolandus.com/products/details.asp?catid=8&subcatid=36&pr… http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,… http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=9 http://www.fusionsynth.com/ -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/