29 Dec
2004
29 Dec
'04
6:04 a.m.
Hello Everybody - hoping your Old year is Excellent
Is there a list that I could look at that would show all necessary
and unnecessary services in terms of Linux Audio. If possible I
would also like to see which files are to be editted for real fine
tuning of my workstation.
Best wishes for the New Year and Thank you for any responses!
Bye
mark
Regards
Mark
Mark McBride
0844146809
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29 Dec
6:17 a.m.
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 12:09 +0200, mark(a)kfm.co.za wrote:
Hello Everybody - hoping your Old year is Excellent
Is there a list that I could look at that would show all necessary
and unnecessary services in terms of Linux Audio. If possible I
would also like to see which files are to be editted for real fine
tuning of my workstation.
While in general you should not run services you don't use, in this area
Linux is a lot better than Windows. Running unnecessary services should
not interfere with audio performance. Of course if they're usilg a lot
of CPU you have that much less for DSP, but it's not line on Windows
where you need to shut down all unnecessary services and the network and
what not in order to not get underruns.
Lee
9:06 a.m.
Last Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:17, Lee Revell was like:
So far I have not found a useful one-page guide to this, so you'll have to
read up on each service individually to find out what they do. In practice
you can lose most of them. If you are running an old or underpowered PC like
I do, running unnecessary services surely does interfere with the performance
of the applications that you use for audio work (note wording). I nearly
migrated to GNOME with version 2.8, but Rosegarden4 is virtually unusable in
that environment on my machine, so I'm back to openbox3. The audio system is
fine, however waiting more than a minute for the 'JACK subsystem is losing
audio frames' dialog to recognise that you clicked the 'OK' button, is not.
cheers
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
Hello
Everybody - hoping your Old year is Excellent
Is there a list that I could look at that would show all necessary
and unnecessary services in terms of Linux Audio. If possible I
would also like to see which files are to be editted for real fine
tuning of my workstation.
While in general you should not run services you don't use, in this area
Linux is a lot better than Windows. Running unnecessary services should
not interfere with audio performance. Of course if they're usilg a lot
of CPU you have that much less for DSP, but it's not line on Windows
where you need to shut down all unnecessary services and the network and
what not in order to not get underruns.
12:35 p.m.
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 13:06 +0000, tim hall wrote:
Last Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:17, Lee Revell was
like:
So far I have not found a useful one-page guide to this, so you'll have to
read up on each service individually to find out what they do. In practice
you can lose most of them. If you are running an old or underpowered PC like
I do, running unnecessary services surely does interfere with the performance
of the applications that you use for audio work (note wording). I nearly
migrated to GNOME with version 2.8, but Rosegarden4 is virtually unusable in
that environment on my machine, so I'm back to openbox3. The audio system is
fine, however waiting more than a minute for the 'JACK subsystem is losing
audio frames' dialog to recognise that you clicked the 'OK' button, is not.
Another problem is that it's hard to say a priori which services are
unnecessary because Linux boxes vary way more than Windows. Any generic
advice would be guaranteed to hose one person's system out there.
How about posting the output of "ps ax", and we can tell you which ones
you probably don't need.
Lee
Hello
Everybody - hoping your Old year is Excellent
Is there a list that I could look at that would show all necessary
and unnecessary services in terms of Linux Audio. If possible I
would also like to see which files are to be editted for real fine
tuning of my workstation.
While in general you should not run services you don't use, in this area
Linux is a lot better than Windows. Running unnecessary services should
not interfere with audio performance. Of course if they're usilg a lot
of CPU you have that much less for DSP, but it's not line on Windows
where you need to shut down all unnecessary services and the network and
what not in order to not get underruns. 
1:38 p.m.
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 10:25 -0700, Hans Fugal wrote:
Cool, I didn't know about that. "ps axf" is another good one.
Lee
How about
posting the output of "ps ax", and we can tell you which ones
you probably don't need.
Or even better, "pstree". At least, I find this output easier to work
with when pruning a system.
4:14 p.m.
Last Wednesday 29 December 2004 17:38, Lee Revell was like:
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 10:25 -0700, Hans Fugal wrote:
Cool, I didn't know about that. "ps axf" is another good one.
'pstree' is new on me too, thanks.
Just for comparison's sake here's mine:
$ ps fax
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1 ? S 0:00 init [5]
2 ? S 0:01 [keventd]
3 ? SN 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
4 ? S 2:46 [kswapd]
5 ? S 0:00 [bdflush]
6 ? S 0:00 [kupdated]
106 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
220 ? S 0:00 [kcopyd]
260 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
261 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
262 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
263 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
264 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
265 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
266 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
268 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
269 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
270 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
271 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
272 ? S 0:00 [kjournald]
368 ? S 0:00 [khubd]
1008 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon-1 --system
1314 ? Ss 0:01 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon
1482 ? S 0:00 [kapmd]
474 ? S 0:02 /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2 13
2093 tty1 Ss 0:00 -bash
2113 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/X11/startx
2126 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ xinit /home/tim/.xinitrc
-- /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc
2127 ? R 0:03 \_ /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp
2130 tty1 S 0:01 \_ openbox
2137 tty1 S 0:02 \_ fbpanel
2140 tty1 S 0:02 \_ gkrellm
2159 tty1 S 0:03 gnome-terminal
2162 tty1 S 0:00 \_ gnome-pty-helper
2163 pts/0 Ss 0:00 \_ bash
2183 pts/0 R+ 0:00 | \_ ps fax
2164 tty1 S 0:00 \_ gnome-terminal
2165 tty1 S 0:00 \_ gnome-terminal
2161 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server
--ac-activate --ior-output-fd=17
/etc/rc5.d $ ls
K10sysklogd K20dictd K20inetd K20snort K89atd K99kdm
S20irqbalance S20xdebconfigurator S99stop-bootlogd
K11anacron K20exim4 K20lpd K20ssh K89cron S18portmap
S20makedev S20xfs
K11klogd K20fam K20mzscheme K20xprint K91apache S20alsa
S20realtime S21aumix
K14ppp K20gpm K20postgresql K21nfs-common K91apache2
S20cfengine2 S20rsync S99linuxlogo
K20cupsys K20hddtemp K20samba K89anacron K99gdm S20dbus-1
S20timidity S99rmnologin
----
Obviously I can't print or do networking stuff in this runlevel and I do
wonder whether I've gone too far in disabling the kernel logging daemons.
Rosegarden4 likes it. :-)
Any thoughts welcomed.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
How about
posting the output of "ps ax", and we can tell you which ones
you probably don't need.
Or even better, "pstree". At least, I find this output easier to work
with when pruning a system. 
6:44 a.m.
mark(a)kfm.co.za escribe:
Is there a list that I could look at that would show
all necessary
and unnecessary services in terms of Linux Audio. If possible I
would also like to see which files are to be editted for real fine
tuning of my workstation.
If worried about this, I suggest having a look at Debian. A bare
Debian installation is not running any more services than those needed
to boot up the machine. And if you track the testing or the unstable
repositories, you will have access to lots of bledding edge
applications already packaged, with no need of recompiling yourself.
Sorry for the evangelism!
6:44 a.m.
mark(a)kfm.co.za wrote:
Is there a list that I could look at that would show
all necessary
and unnecessary services in terms of Linux Audio. If possible I
would also like to see which files are to be editted for real fine
tuning of my workstation.
Maybe you should install one of the music-oriented Linux distributions such as
DeMuDi: http://demudi.alioth.debian.org/ (Information about tuning is available
on that website.)
Cheers,
Andreas
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> Hello Everybody - hoping your Old year is Excellent
>
Is there a list that I could look at that would show
all necessary
and unnecessary services in terms of Linux Audio. If possible I
would also like to see which files are to be editted for real fine
tuning of my workstation.
>
> Best wishes for the New Year and Thank you for any responses!
>
> Bye
> mark
> Regards
> Mark
>
> Mark McBride
> 0844146809
>
>
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30 Dec
30 Dec
2:39 a.m.
Oh, thank you so much, Andreas! Too bad I didn't know this a few days
ago, as I've just ordered Mandrake 10.1, and Knoppix 3.7 (Knoppix to try
on our old computer). I tried Dynebolic, which is apparently a
specialised music version of Linux, but I couldn't make it work.
I'm a total newbie to Linux, and really want to get it working for doing
recording (perhaps even mastering, eventually).
Should I get DeMuDi, or can I make the music applications work with
Mandrake? Is latency the main issue to watch out for, or are there
others I'm not aware of?
Any advice is much appreciated. Sorry, I haven't understood most of the
messages since joining this list, but maybe eventually I will (when I
have got Linux onto my computer).
Cheers,
Kath Worsfold
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
Maybe you should install one of the music-oriented
Linux distributions such as
DeMuDi: http://demudi.alioth.debian.org/ (Information about tuning is available
on that website.)
Cheers,
Andreas
10:50 a.m.
Last Thursday 30 December 2004 06:34, Bill & Kath Worsfold "Songs" was
like:
Should I get DeMuDi, or can I make the music
applications work with
Mandrake? Is latency the main issue to watch out for, or are there
others I'm not aware of?
I'd seriously recommend DeMuDi-1.2.0
http://download.agnula.org/1.2/1.2.0/demudi_1.2.0_i386.iso
Probably the easiest install so long as you know your hardware doesn't need to
use non-free drivers.
Just for balance I have to say that PlanetCCRMA is also worth looking at.
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
Mandrake also works well with thac's rpms;
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/index10.0.html
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound10.0.html
Mandrake doesn't use apt, so it can be slightly more fiddly for Linux newbies
to install all the music apps. If you already know you prefer Mandrake, then
stick with it. You should have access to a similar range of software.
It's probably best to get a working system going with most of the available
Linux Audio packages. If you use one of the music-oriented distros then you
can let people like Free Ekanayaka, Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano, Thac and
the rest of the LADs who populate these lists worry about things like latency
issues for you. It's hard to talk about these things in the abstract.
Have Fun.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
9:08 p.m.
tim hall wrote:
Last Thursday 30 December 2004 06:34, Bill & Kath
Worsfold "Songs" was like:
The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating to their website??
Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is more
recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
I use Mandrake and Thac's but it is a bit of a pain at the moment with
the 2.6 kernel stuff and the latest distro is not likely to work at all
with the 2.4 kernel.
I've been tempted many times to try CCRMA but untill someone can spout a
reliable RT kernel in packaged form with all the most recent updates,
whatever the distro may be, I don't want to try anything new.
R~
Should I get DeMuDi, or can I make the music
applications work with
Mandrake? Is latency the main issue to watch out for, or are there
others I'm not aware of?
I'd seriously recommend DeMuDi-1.2.0
http://download.agnula.org/1.2/1.2.0/demudi_1.2.0_i386.iso
Probably the easiest install so long as you know your hardware doesn't need to
use non-free drivers.
Just for balance I have to say that PlanetCCRMA is also worth looking at.
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
Mandrake also works well with thac's rpms;
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/index10.0.html
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound10.0.html
Mandrake doesn't use apt, so it can be slightly more fiddly for Linux newbies
to install all the music apps. If you already know you prefer Mandrake, then
stick with it. You should have access to a similar range of software.
It's probably best to get a working system going with most of the available
Linux Audio packages. If you use one of the music-oriented distros then you
can let people like Free Ekanayaka, Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano, Thac and
the rest of the LADs who populate these lists worry about things like latency
issues for you. It's hard to talk about these things in the abstract.
Have Fun.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
9:46 p.m.
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 20:08 -0500, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating to
their website??
Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is more
recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
It's a known problem. Last I heard they were looking for a new
webmaster. There is in fact a lot more available than on the website,
the standard way to access it is through APT.
Lee
10:19 p.m.
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 17:08, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
tim hall wrote:
[I don't understand the 'I don't want to try anything new' part... :-]
Ha, a "reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in time
(IMHO). The best low latency performance in the 2.6.x series can only be
obtained by using Ingo Molnar's realtime preempt patch. The latest
version (and maybe also the underlying 2.6.10-rc3-mm1 as well) is not a
model of stability... But when it works, it works very well indeed.
Check out the top entries at the Planet CCRMA log:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html
There are now a couple of new kernels there, both bleeding edge (with
the realtime preempt patch version 0.7.33-04) and conservative (vanilla
2.6.10).
-- Fernando
Last Thursday 30 December 2004 06:34, Bill &
Kath Worsfold "Songs" was like:
The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating to their website??
Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is more
recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
I use Mandrake and Thac's but it is a bit of a pain at the moment with
the 2.6 kernel stuff and the latest distro is not likely to work at all
with the 2.4 kernel.
I've been tempted many times to try CCRMA but untill someone can spout a
reliable RT kernel in packaged form with all the most recent updates,
whatever the distro may be, I don't want to try anything new. Should I get DeMuDi, or can I make the music
applications work with
Mandrake? Is latency the main issue to watch out for, or are there
others I'm not aware of?
I'd seriously recommend DeMuDi-1.2.0
http://download.agnula.org/1.2/1.2.0/demudi_1.2.0_i386.iso
Probably the easiest install so long as you know your hardware doesn't need to
use non-free drivers.
Just for balance I have to say that PlanetCCRMA is also worth looking at.
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
Mandrake also works well with thac's rpms;
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/index10.0.html
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound10.0.html
Mandrake doesn't use apt, so it can be slightly more fiddly for Linux newbies
to install all the music apps. If you already know you prefer Mandrake, then
stick with it. You should have access to a similar range of software.
It's probably best to get a working system going with most of the available
Linux Audio packages. If you use one of the music-oriented distros then you
can let people like Free Ekanayaka, Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano, Thac and
the rest of the LADs who populate these lists worry about things like latency
issues for you. It's hard to talk about these things in the abstract.
Have Fun.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
11:19 p.m.
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 17:08, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
:) Kind of a contradiction considering where I'm writing to...
What I mean is, I need that production box to work. So before I go mess
it all up, I want something stable ~ ish. At least as stable as the mdk
2.6.7-mm.7 kernel has been.
tim hall wrote:
[I don't understand the 'I don't want to try anything new' part... :-]
Last Thursday 30 December 2004 06:34, Bill &
Kath Worsfold "Songs" was like:
The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating to their website??
Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is more
recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
I use Mandrake and Thac's but it is a bit of a pain at the moment with
the 2.6 kernel stuff and the latest distro is not likely to work at all
with the 2.4 kernel.
I've been tempted many times to try CCRMA but untill someone can spout a
reliable RT kernel in packaged form with all the most recent updates,
whatever the distro may be, I don't want to try anything new.
Should I get DeMuDi, or can I make the music
applications work with
Mandrake? Is latency the main issue to watch out for, or are there
others I'm not aware of?
I'd seriously recommend DeMuDi-1.2.0
http://download.agnula.org/1.2/1.2.0/demudi_1.2.0_i386.iso
Probably the easiest install so long as you know your hardware doesn't need to
use non-free drivers.
Just for balance I have to say that PlanetCCRMA is also worth looking at.
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
Mandrake also works well with thac's rpms;
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/index10.0.html
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound10.0.html
Mandrake doesn't use apt, so it can be slightly more fiddly for Linux newbies
to install all the music apps. If you already know you prefer Mandrake, then
stick with it. You should have access to a similar range of software.
It's probably best to get a working system going with most of the available
Linux Audio packages. If you use one of the music-oriented distros then you
can let people like Free Ekanayaka, Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano, Thac and
the rest of the LADs who populate these lists worry about things like latency
issues for you. It's hard to talk about these things in the abstract.
Have Fun.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
Ha, a "reliable RT kernel" does not really
exist at this point in time
(IMHO). The best low latency performance in the 2.6.x series can only be
obtained by using Ingo Molnar's realtime preempt patch. The latest
version (and maybe also the underlying 2.6.10-rc3-mm1 as well) is not a
model of stability... But when it works, it works very well indeed.
""reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in
time(IMHO)"
It would seem this is true. But the 2.4 kernel was stable and reliable.
I'm sure 2.6 will get there too, even if it is 20 releases away.
Check out the top entries at the Planet CCRMA log:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html
There are now a couple of new kernels there, both bleeding edge (with
the realtime preempt patch version 0.7.33-04) and conservative (vanilla
2.6.10).
-- Fernando
Do these have the Realtime-lsm patch too? I don't want to run as root.
Give's me the willies! :)
R~
31 Dec
31 Dec
12:09 a.m.
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
Never mind...read the website.
WHat i dont see is how far into the FC3 builds you are? I see one failed
build that you list...I wouldnt mind testing it out.
Sure would be nice to get a "bare bones" install disk of the OS instead
of the bloated disks like Mdk does. Makes no sense to me...majority of
geeks that use Linux in the first place have a broadband connection of
somekind. Most distros provide all updates via online anyway...why have
fifteen install CD's? </rant>
Time to take my meds! :)
Cheers
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 17:08, Russell Hanaghan
wrote:
:) Kind of a contradiction considering where I'm writing to...
What I mean is, I need that production box to work. So before I go
mess it all up, I want something stable ~ ish. At least as stable as
the mdk 2.6.7-mm.7 kernel has been.
tim hall wrote:
[I don't understand the 'I don't want to try anything new' part... :-]
Last Thursday 30 December 2004 06:34, Bill &
Kath Worsfold "Songs"
was like:
> Should I get DeMuDi, or can I make the music applications work with
> Mandrake? Is latency the main issue to watch out for, or are there
> others I'm not aware of?
>
I'd seriously recommend DeMuDi-1.2.0
http://download.agnula.org/1.2/1.2.0/demudi_1.2.0_i386.iso
Probably the easiest install so long as you know your hardware
doesn't need to use non-free drivers.
Just for balance I have to say that PlanetCCRMA is also worth
looking at.
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
Mandrake also works well with thac's rpms;
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/index10.0.html
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound10.0.html
Mandrake doesn't use apt, so it can be slightly more fiddly for
Linux newbies to install all the music apps. If you already know
you prefer Mandrake, then stick with it. You should have access to
a similar range of software.
It's probably best to get a working system going with most of the
available Linux Audio packages. If you use one of the
music-oriented distros then you can let people like Free Ekanayaka,
Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano, Thac and the rest of the LADs who
populate these lists worry about things like latency issues for
you. It's hard to talk about these things in the abstract.
Have Fun.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating to their website??
Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is
more recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
I use Mandrake and Thac's but it is a bit of a pain at the moment
with the 2.6 kernel stuff and the latest distro is not likely to
work at all with the 2.4 kernel.
I've been tempted many times to try CCRMA but untill someone can
spout a reliable RT kernel in packaged form with all the most recent
updates, whatever the distro may be, I don't want to try anything new.
Ha, a "reliable RT kernel" does not
really exist at this point in time
(IMHO). The best low latency performance in the 2.6.x series can only be
obtained by using Ingo Molnar's realtime preempt patch. The latest
version (and maybe also the underlying 2.6.10-rc3-mm1 as well) is not a
model of stability... But when it works, it works very well indeed.
""reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in
time(IMHO)"
It would seem this is true. But the 2.4 kernel was stable and
reliable. I'm sure 2.6 will get there too, even if it is 20 releases
away.
Check out the top entries at the Planet CCRMA
log:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html
There are now a couple of new kernels there, both bleeding edge (with
the realtime preempt patch version 0.7.33-04) and conservative (vanilla
2.6.10).
-- Fernando
Do these have the Realtime-lsm patch too? I don't want to run as root.
Give's me the willies! :)
R~
3:56 a.m.
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 20:08, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
Never mind...read the website.
WHat i dont see is how far into the FC3 builds you are? I see one failed
build that you list...I wouldnt mind testing it out.
Comparing with fc2:
# bin/todofrom2
=== finding all existing packages for fedora 2
273 /build/status/fedora-2
=== finding all existing packages for fedora 3
144 /build/status/fedora-3
=== missing packages:
114 /build/status/missing
So, still way to go... difficult to predict, some packages are easy and
suddenly you get some hard to solve problem. I have more "do not build"
packages, I just started listing them on the site.
Beware that I'm in the process of writing new install instructions for
fc2/fc3, it is much easier than the old install guide (when everything
works right, of course). Look at the recent changelog and mailing list
for more guidance.
-- Fernando
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>>> I use Mandrake and Thac's but it is a bit of a pain at the moment
>>> with the 2.6 kernel stuff and the latest distro is not likely to
>>> work at all with the 2.4 kernel.
>>>
>>> I've been tempted many times to try CCRMA but untill someone can
>>> spout a reliable RT kernel in packaged form with all the most recent
>>> updates, whatever the distro may be, I don't want to try anything new.
>>
>> [I don't understand the 'I don't want to try anything new'
part... :-]
>>
> :) Kind of a contradiction considering where I'm writing to...
Yup...
> What I mean is, I need that production box to
work. So before I go
> mess it all up, I want something stable ~ ish. At least as stable as
> the mdk 2.6.7-mm.7 kernel has been.
I see. I would stick with 2.4.x if stability is the main concern. The
other option is to try a new 2.6.x in your hardware to see if it is
stable, impossible to predict beforehand. Easier if you have an extra
disk so you don't mess your current stable configuration.
>> Ha, a "reliable RT kernel" does not
really exist at this point in time
>> (IMHO). The best low latency performance in the 2.6.x series can only be
>> obtained by using Ingo Molnar's realtime preempt patch. The latest
>> version (and maybe also the underlying 2.6.10-rc3-mm1 as well) is not a
>> model of stability... But when it works, it works very well indeed.
>>
> ""reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in
time(IMHO)"
>
> It would seem this is true. But the 2.4 kernel was stable and
> reliable. I'm sure 2.6 will get there too, even if it is 20 releases
> away.
Oh yes, and it is (I think) much closer than that.
Check out the top entries at the Planet CCRMA log:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html
There are now a couple of new kernels there, both bleeding edge (with
the realtime preempt patch version 0.7.33-04) and conservative (vanilla
2.6.10).
Do these have the Realtime-lsm patch too? I don't want to run as root.
Give's me the willies! :)
4:13 a.m.
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating to
their website??
Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is more
recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
The new website for AGNULA / DeMuDi is here:
http://demudi.alioth.debian.org/
The old website http://agnula.org currently is not maintained and the material
has not yet been merged into the new site.
The DeMuDi software sections can be found here:
http://demudi.alioth.debian.org/wiki/DocumentsSoftware
Cheers,
Andreas
5:07 a.m.
One addition to my previous mail.
A machine readable list of DeMuDi packages is contained in this file:
http://demudi.alioth.debian.org/file/demudi-debtags/trunk/tagpatch
Cheers,
Andreas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Kuckartz" <A.Kuckartz(a)ping.de>
To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Unnecessary Services
Russell Hanaghan wrote:
The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating
to their website??
Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is more
recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
The new website for AGNULA / DeMuDi is here:
http://demudi.alioth.debian.org/
The old website http://agnula.org currently is not maintained and the material
has not yet been merged into the new site.
The DeMuDi software sections can be found here:
http://demudi.alioth.debian.org/wiki/DocumentsSoftware
Cheers,
Andreas
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