9 Sep
2014
9 Sep
'14
7 p.m.
hey linux audio users,
about a year ago i purchased the korg nanokontrol one when they were
dumping them to make room for the nanokontrol II. the last month i'm
finally getting to using it for some csound live processing. but im
beginning to find shortcomings. for one i could use more knobs. also
14bits of resolution would be nice. finally it would be nice if when i
reassign the knobs it would be nice to be able start from the values
they are operating on.
so im looking into the bcr-2000-b by behringer. any linux users had any
experience with this device? any other device suggestions for a budget
minded music coder?
k.
10 Sep
10 Sep
2:18 a.m.
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Kelly Hirai wrote:
hey linux audio users,
about a year ago i purchased the korg nanokontrol one when they were
dumping them to make room for the nanokontrol II. the last month i'm
finally getting to using it for some csound live processing. but im
beginning to find shortcomings. for one i could use more knobs. also
14bits of resolution would be nice. finally it would be nice if when i
reassign the knobs it would be nice to be able start from the values
they are operating on.
so im looking into the bcr-2000-b by behringer. any linux users had any
experience with this device? any other device suggestions for a budget
minded music coder?
Lots of rotary encoders, looks good. I don't have one. The spec does say
something like 7 bits for the controllers but 14 bit if you hold down an
alt key. As in I think you can get the MS 7 bits by turning and the works
by holding down one of the switches. My advice is to read the manual:
http://www.behringer.com/assets/BCF2000_BCR2000_M_EN.pdf
Then go over to your local music store and ask to try one out. Plug it
into your laptop and try things. This is the way I do things... and I
don't always buy either :)
If you want really cheap :) I have a program that will allow you to have
a jack MIDI port from a 10* key computer keyboard (USB). I have seen these
for $3 in the local dollar store (I bought three). There is code to use
two keys as up/down keys to fake an encoder or pitch control. I used the
key rep to go up/down by 2s or 10s. I was able to fake a Mackie control
surface (five channels not 8 though). My next trick will be to hook up a
real encoder to two of the keys... After we clean up from the small flood
we had :( The program is not complete, comes as src and has no
./configure so you would have to figure out what libs you need. (I think
the only thing I added was libjack-jackd2-dev over the normal libc stuff)
It is based on actkbd (and can be used as such even with the mods I have
done).
Docs are not there yet :( but follow the same path as the original.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
9:46 a.m.
On 09/10/2014 02:16 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
Lots of rotary encoders, looks good. I don't have
one. The spec does say
something like 7 bits for the controllers but 14 bit if you hold down an
alt key. As in I think you can get the MS 7 bits by turning and the
works by holding down one of the switches. My advice is to read the manual:
http://www.behringer.com/assets/BCF2000_BCR2000_M_EN.pdf
The BCR/BCF-2000 devices are fully programmable, afaik it is also
possible to modify the resolution of each controller. For a hugely
extensive manual check here:
http://mountainutilities.eu/system/files/download/BCManManual2.5.0.pdf
Jeremy
9:43 a.m.
On 09/09/2014 06:59 PM, Kelly Hirai wrote:
hey linux audio users,
about a year ago i purchased the korg nanokontrol one when they were
dumping them to make room for the nanokontrol II. the last month i'm
finally getting to using it for some csound live processing. but im
beginning to find shortcomings. for one i could use more knobs. also
14bits of resolution would be nice. finally it would be nice if when i
reassign the knobs it would be nice to be able start from the values
they are operating on.
so im looking into the bcr-2000-b by behringer. any linux users had any
experience with this device? any other device suggestions for a budget
minded music coder?
k.
Hello Kelly,
I've got both the BCR-2000 and the BCF-2000. Great devices, fully
supported. They're super flexible to program too with the help of the BC
Manager utility: http://mountainutilities.eu/bcmanager
BC Manager runs perfectly with Wine. I can highly recommend these devices.
Jeremy
6:23 p.m.
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
I've got both the BCR-2000 and the BCF-2000. Great
devices, fully
I have a question that the documentation doesn't seem to answer (or I am
too obtuse to get it). With the encoders, how many ticks do they offer for
a full 360 degree turn? It may help to explain my question by making a
guess which you can correct.
I am guessing that it can do 7 bits(128) ticks in one turn (goes with the
selection mode some sw uses) and that in high resolution mode one turn
still does 128 ticks so that it would take 128 turns for 0 to full scale.
It may be possible to set resolution in between as well. That is, in 14
bit mode, one tick may do 2, 10, 16 or some other number of consecutive 14
bit values. I am also guessing no detents.
Some of these assumtions are from a user POV, having 14 bits worth of
values in one turn would be very hard to get physical accuracy. That is,
it would be very hard for my fingers to turn the encoder one 14 bit tick
at a time if they were stuffed into 360 degrees.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
7:30 p.m.
i'm having to smooth the values of the nano's 7bit knobs to avoid
zippering. its not a bad thing and i expect to have to do this at 14bits
as well, but there are some sets of values for which i would like them
to not fall into the same slots so easily.
just curious if anyone knows off the top of there head, for the
bcr-2000, when the application decides it wants to reassign the encoder
to another parameter and needs it to be a different value (lighting up a
different led on the display ring) is this as simple as a midi note on
message or is there a lengthy sysex glob that needs to be sent?
i've had to fight the dust out of rotary encoders in several devices.
behringers included. read timings or dust causing them to do things like
jitter forward when you turn them back. that would be kind of a show
stopper for me if it was cronic.
kelly
On 09/10/2014 12:21 PM, Len Ovens wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
I've got both the BCR-2000 and the BCF-2000.
Great devices, fully
I have a question that the documentation doesn't seem to answer (or I
am too obtuse to get it). With the encoders, how many ticks do they
offer for a full 360 degree turn? It may help to explain my question
by making a guess which you can correct.
I am guessing that it can do 7 bits(128) ticks in one turn (goes with
the selection mode some sw uses) and that in high resolution mode one
turn still does 128 ticks so that it would take 128 turns for 0 to
full scale. It may be possible to set resolution in between as well.
That is, in 14 bit mode, one tick may do 2, 10, 16 or some other
number of consecutive 14 bit values. I am also guessing no detents.
Some of these assumtions are from a user POV, having 14 bits worth of
values in one turn would be very hard to get physical accuracy. That
is, it would be very hard for my fingers to turn the encoder one 14
bit tick at a time if they were stuffed into 360 degrees.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
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2:06 a.m.
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Kelly Hirai wrote:
i'm having to smooth the values of the nano's
7bit knobs to avoid
zippering. its not a bad thing and i expect to have to do this at 14bits
as well, but there are some sets of values for which i would like them
to not fall into the same slots so easily.
just curious if anyone knows off the top of there head, for the
bcr-2000, when the application decides it wants to reassign the encoder
to another parameter and needs it to be a different value (lighting up a
different led on the display ring) is this as simple as a midi note on
message or is there a lengthy sysex glob that needs to be sent?
The manual says there are two modes for this. One of them is the sysex
method, but the other would send the value of each individual control. The
second would be the normal performance mode. That is, on most control
surfaces, when a bank change happens, the host sw sends to the controller,
midi messages to set all LEDs, fader positions and controller possitions.
With controller positions, this is only for a controller that is in
absolute mode as in/decrement mode would find this meaningless. On a unit
with encoders this means the absolute value is stored as a memory value
and the encoder in/decrements this stored value so there is no "jump".
On a controller with real pots, there will be a jump to the current pot
position or the value will not change until the pot is moved past the
stored position. (depending on the unit)
i've had to fight the dust out of rotary encoders
in several devices.
behringers included. read timings or dust causing them to do things like
jitter forward when you turn them back. that would be kind of a show
stopper for me if it was cronic.
Good to know. This probably answers my other question about 360 degree
resolution as well. It says to me that these are the cheap mechanical
contact type encoders as optical or magnetic encoders do not generally
suffer from dust problems (even in places where dust gathers at the rate
of about 1/2 inch (1.5 cm) in an 8 hour shift). I can not find high
resolution mechanical switch encoders, 32 cycles/rev seems to be at the
top end (4 pulses/cycle gives 128 pulses/rev). The cost difference between
mechanical switch and optical seems to be about 10:1. Magnetic is less
than optical but needs high quantity purchase (not a consideration with
the bc2000).
Also good to know because I have some mechanical encoders I am using for a
project of mine. :)
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
8:37 a.m.
On 09/10/2014 07:29 PM, Kelly Hirai wrote:
just curious if anyone knows off the top of there
head, for the
bcr-2000, when the application decides it wants to reassign the encoder
to another parameter and needs it to be a different value (lighting up a
different led on the display ring) is this as simple as a midi note on
message or is there a lengthy sysex glob that needs to be sent?
The BCF/BCR-2000 have MIDI feedback so a (CC) value change in CSound
should change the value of the respective encoder on the Behringer
device. If you use the LED ring of the encoders it will reflect the
change. Or do you mean something else?
Jeremy
8:42 a.m.
On 09/10/2014 07:29 PM, Kelly Hirai wrote:
i've had to fight the dust out of rotary encoders
in several devices.
behringers included. read timings or dust causing them to do things like
jitter forward when you turn them back. that would be kind of a show
stopper for me if it was cronic.
The BCR/BCF-2000 rotary encoders do not suffer from this issue. Bought
mine second hand 4 years ago and never had any dust issues. You do need
to regularly dust them off or cover them though. But that applies to any
equipment of that kind.
Jeremy
10:11 a.m.
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 08:42 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 09/10/2014 07:29 PM, Kelly Hirai wrote:
Does Behringer use the same rotary encoders for each release of those
devices?
Also to consider, for example, gloopy fine dust from the street is much
more aggressive, than house dust, even if house dust comes in
combination with cigarette smoke. IOW even identical hardware does
behave different, in different locations. Different moisture, different
temperature fluctuations etc. could make a big difference, military
specifications are not only interesting for the military.
Assumed Behringer should use high quality components, than indeed, the
location doesn't matter that much and it even wouldn't matter that much,
if they replace one high quality component by another high quality
component.
When I compare the Behringer gear with other gear I own, than even cheap
gear from other companies provide more reliable components. I don't know
the BCR/BCF-2000, it might be different for those devices. In my
Behringer devices even the capacitors' voltage/temperature often is
undersized. That's a known issue for switching power supplies used with
consumer gear, but shouldn't happen for audio production gear, but
Behringer doesn't care.
When having not much money, Behringer IMO is a good choice, but to
recommend Behringer gear as reliable gear isn't something I could do.
YMMV!
i've had to fight the dust out of rotary
encoders in several devices.
behringers included. read timings or dust causing them to do things like
jitter forward when you turn them back. that would be kind of a show
stopper for me if it was cronic.
The BCR/BCF-2000 rotary encoders do not suffer from this issue. Bought
mine second hand 4 years ago and never had any dust issues. You do need
to regularly dust them off or cover them though. But that applies to any
equipment of that kind. 
5:56 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:11:08 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 08:42 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier
wrote:
I've had a BCF2000 for ages now and haven't had a problem with dust.
The BCR/BCF-2000 rotary encoders do not suffer
from this issue. Bought
mine second hand 4 years ago and never had any dust issues. You do need
to regularly dust them off or cover them though. But that applies to any
equipment of that kind.
Does Behringer use the same rotary encoders for each release of those
devices? When I compare the Behringer gear with other gear I
own, than even cheap
gear from other companies provide more reliable components. I don't know
the BCR/BCF-2000, it might be different for those devices. In my
Behringer devices even the capacitors' voltage/temperature often is
undersized. That's a known issue for switching power supplies used with
consumer gear, but shouldn't happen for audio production gear, but
Behringer doesn't care.
I've had enough Behringer gear, incuding mixers and tube preamps, over the
years and I've always ended up a bit disappointed in the tone and the build.
I think a lot of that comes from the fact that they are almost always ripping
off someone else's design and building it on the cheap.
The BCF2000 is in sharp contrast to that - I love this thing! The build feels
much more solid than the mixer I had and it's always worked really well for
me. Since it doesn't produce sound on its own, it can't sound bad.
As an old analog and radio guy, I'd much rather push buttons and move
faders than tap a mouse, so it's been a joy to work with this both as a
physical interface to Ardour's mixer and as a DJ controller with Mixxx for
an internet radio station.
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7:41 p.m.
New subject: [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 11:56 -0400, Joe Hartley wrote:
I've had enough Behringer gear, incuding mixers
and tube preamps, over
the years and I've always ended up a bit disappointed in the tone and
the build.
Regarding to the tone my Behringer gear does sound very good. Friends
owned Behringer gear that sounded very bad. The sound quality to price
ratio sometimes is very good and sometimes isn't ok. I've seen some very
cheap mixers of good build quality, but the sound quality was unusable.
Regarding to the build quality my Behringer gear is bottom quality as
most Behringer gear I know is too.
IMO regarding to the sound quality my ADA8000 (at lest for some tasks)
and MODULIZER PRO could be used by professional studios and my EURORACK
UB2442FX-PRO could be used by regional radio and for decent home
recording. Usability and/or reliability IMO allow home recording only.
I think a lot of that comes from the fact that they
are almost always
ripping off someone else's design and building it on the cheap.
The Mackie mixer of a friend does look similar to my Behringer mixer.
The BCF2000 is in sharp contrast to that - I love this
thing!
Ok :).
Regards,
Ralf
9:03 p.m.
New subject: [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:41:39 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
IMO regarding to the sound quality my ADA8000 (at lest
for some tasks)
and MODULIZER PRO could be used by professional studios and my EURORACK
UB2442FX-PRO could be used by regional radio and for decent home
recording. Usability and/or reliability IMO allow home recording only.
I have a rather old Eurorack mixer (I forget the model, 16 inputs, no DSP)
that sounded OK but a number of the switches are flaky and channel 1 has a
fair amount of noise. It's just OK and now sits as a backup. I know the
ADA line sounds better.
I also have a T1953 2 channel tube preamp. This box looks great but
has a harsh sound to it that only gets more pronounced as you turn up the
"warmth" knobs. It's unusable for vocals but does OK on drum overhead
mics.
A local club just got a BIG Behringer board that sounds great and impressed
me greatly with its controls and sound. I was amazed that it was a
Behringer, but I hadn't realized that they'd bought Midas and that it
came out of that.
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12 Sep
12 Sep
2:43 a.m.
New subject: [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:02:56 -0400
Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> wrote:
A local club just got a BIG Behringer board that
sounds great and
impressed me greatly with its controls and sound. I was amazed that
it was a Behringer, but I hadn't realized that they'd bought Midas
and that it came out of that.
We use an X32, and are impressed by both feature and sound quality,
it's also nice that you can record 32 tracks with it, 16 outs too for
mains and monitors.
--
Joakim
10 Sep
10 Sep
10:02 p.m.
New subject: [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 09:21 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
Keep in mind that the 360° of rotary knobs only should be used for some
tasks. IMO it would be wise to use less than 360°, to simulate the
radius of potentiometers. But I don't know how it's done by digital
music mixing consoles.
I've got both the BCR-2000 and the BCF-2000.
Great devices, fully
I have a question that the documentation doesn't seem to answer (or I am
too obtuse to get it). With the encoders, how many ticks do they offer for
a full 360 degree turn? It may help to explain my question by making a
guess which you can correct.
I am guessing that it can do 7 bits(128) ticks in one turn (goes with the
selection mode some sw uses) and that in high resolution mode one turn
still does 128 ticks so that it would take 128 turns for 0 to full scale.
It may be possible to set resolution in between as well. That is, in 14
bit mode, one tick may do 2, 10, 16 or some other number of consecutive 14
bit values. I am also guessing no detents.
Some of these assumtions are from a user POV, having 14 bits worth of
values in one turn would be very hard to get physical accuracy. That is,
it would be very hard for my fingers to turn the encoder one 14 bit tick
at a time if they were stuffed into 360 degrees. 
10:33 p.m.
New subject: [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:02:17 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
Keep in mind that the 360° of rotary knobs only should
be used for some
tasks. IMO it would be wise to use less than 360°, to simulate the
radius of potentiometers. But I don't know how it's done by digital
music mixing consoles.
Why? What's special about 270 (or so) degrees. It was only ever purely a
mechanical limitation.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
11 p.m.
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 21:33 +0100, Will Godfrey wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:02:17 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
For some tasks it could be useful to use more than 360°. Btw. even some
potentiometers provide more than 360°, there isn't a mechanical
limitation. If you e.g. pan from left to right, you likely will use
around 180° only. Such a pan likely is done from around 9 o'clock to
around 3 o'clock and not from one end to the other. IOW if you want to
keep a common audio engineering work flow, stay with what is common for
audio gear, IOW around 270° for the full range from one to the other
end, so for e.g. panning a good ergonomically handling from around 9
o'clock to around 3 o'clock is provided.
My 2 Cents,
Ralf
Keep in mind that the 360° of rotary knobs only
should be used for some
tasks. IMO it would be wise to use less than 360°, to simulate the
radius of potentiometers. But I don't know how it's done by digital
music mixing consoles.
Why? What's special about 270 (or so) degrees. It was only ever purely a
mechanical limitation. 
6:39 p.m.
Hi,
I also have the BCR-2000. While it is all in all a good device, the
build quality is lacking a bit. It has some rotor-knobs which also act
as buttons. Two of these are spoilt with the behaviour that on turning
the knob some values are skipped (meaning I have to wind and wind and
wind till I have the correct value). But I must say I use it for live
performances in a case. So for the studio: Yes I would recommend it.
But for live I would opt out for something more rugged (checkout this:
https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=144001&start=0)
Gerald
On 09/10/2014 09:43 AM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 09/09/2014 06:59 PM, Kelly Hirai wrote:
hey linux audio users, about a year ago i
purchased the korg
nanokontrol one when they were dumping them to make room for the
nanokontrol II. the last month i'm finally getting to using it
for some csound live processing. but im beginning to find
shortcomings. for one i could use more knobs. also 14bits of
resolution would be nice. finally it would be nice if when i
reassign the knobs it would be nice to be able start from the
values they are operating on.
so im looking into the bcr-2000-b by behringer. any linux users
had any experience with this device? any other device
suggestions for a budget minded music coder?
k.
Hello Kelly,
I've got both the BCR-2000 and the BCF-2000. Great devices, fully
supported. They're super flexible to program too with the help of
the BC Manager utility: http://mountainutilities.eu/bcmanager BC
Manager runs perfectly with Wine. I can highly recommend these
devices.
Jeremy
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6:49 p.m.
Also own one BCR-2000 and I do not recommend it. Some of the first row knobs now don't
work properly on my unit and has never left my room.It does not seem a reliable device for
me, It is tempting, cheap and with all that rotary encoders, but...
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:35:25 +0200
From: gerald.mwangi(a)gmx.de
To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Subject: Re: [LAU] control surfaces
Hi,
I also have the BCR-2000. While it is all in all a good device, the
build quality is lacking a bit. It has some rotor-knobs which also act
as buttons. Two of these are spoilt with the behaviour that on turning
the knob some values are skipped (meaning I have to wind and wind and
wind till I have the correct value). But I must say I use it for live
performances in a case. So for the studio: Yes I would recommend it.
But for live I would opt out for something more rugged (checkout this:
https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=144001&start=0)
Gerald
On 09/10/2014 09:43 AM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 09/09/2014 06:59 PM, Kelly Hirai wrote:
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http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user hey linux audio users, about a year ago i
purchased the korg
nanokontrol one when they were dumping them to make room for the
nanokontrol II. the last month i'm finally getting to using it
for some csound live processing. but im beginning to find
shortcomings. for one i could use more knobs. also 14bits of
resolution would be nice. finally it would be nice if when i
reassign the knobs it would be nice to be able start from the
values they are operating on.
so im looking into the bcr-2000-b by behringer. any linux users
had any experience with this device? any other device
suggestions for a budget minded music coder?
k.
Hello Kelly,
I've got both the BCR-2000 and the BCF-2000. Great devices, fully
supported. They're super flexible to program too with the help of
the BC Manager utility: http://mountainutilities.eu/bcmanager BC
Manager runs perfectly with Wine. I can highly recommend these
devices.
Jeremy
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10:27 p.m.
New subject: [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 18:49 +0200, Nacho - wrote:
Also own one BCR-2000 and I do not recommend it. Some
of the first row
knobs now don't work properly on my unit and has never left my room.
It does not seem a reliable device for me, It is tempting, cheap and
with all that rotary encoders, but...
I don't own those Behringer control devices, but all switches (mute, sub
group routing etc.) of my Behringer analog mixer are defect. When unused
the mixer is covered with a plastic sheet and the switches were seldom
used, they get broken 2 or 3 years after I bought it. Non of the faders
suffers from dust, faders and potentiometers are still ok and it's much
older than 3 years now. I didn't test Kontakt 60 to clean, Kontakt WL to
sluice out and Kontakt 61 to lubricate. Btw. using Kontakt 61 aerosol
for faders does avoid fader death after cleaning. The cans lose pressure
very soon, perhaps I should open the cans and spray it with my
airbrush :D. Anyway, did you test cleaning the knobs using cleaning
aerosols and after cleaning it a protection aerosol?
11:36 p.m.
New subject: [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
The truth is I've never tried to clean the encoders. I will do that. Thanks for the
advice.I don't know why (maybe the same problem with dust on the encoders?) but
sometimes, also the display numbers change without touching anything. The Phantom of the
bcr...
From: ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com
To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:27:52 +0200
Subject: Re: [LAU] [Bulk] Re: control surfaces
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 18:49 +0200, Nacho - wrote:
Also own one BCR-2000 and I do not recommend it.
Some of the first row
knobs now don't work properly on my unit and has never left my room.
It does not seem a reliable device for me, It is tempting, cheap and
with all that rotary encoders, but...
I don't own those Behringer control devices, but all switches (mute, sub
group routing etc.) of my Behringer analog mixer are defect. When unused
the mixer is covered with a plastic sheet and the switches were seldom
used, they get broken 2 or 3 years after I bought it. Non of the faders
suffers from dust, faders and potentiometers are still ok and it's much
older than 3 years now. I didn't test Kontakt 60 to clean, Kontakt WL to
sluice out and Kontakt 61 to lubricate. Btw. using Kontakt 61 aerosol
for faders does avoid fader death after cleaning. The cans lose pressure
very soon, perhaps I should open the cans and spray it with my
airbrush :D. Anyway, did you test cleaning the knobs using cleaning
aerosols and after cleaning it a protection aerosol?
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11 Sep
2:15 a.m.
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 23:36 +0200, Nacho - wrote:
The truth is I've never tried to clean the
encoders. I will do that.
Thanks for the advice.
I don't know why (maybe the same problem with dust on the encoders?)
but sometimes, also the display numbers change without touching
anything. The Phantom of the bcr...
I don't have (much) experiences with rotary encoders, but I guess
optical encoders that aren't well sealed sometimes might need a cleaning
too, but not the same kind of cleaning that potentiometers need. An
optical mouse react to vibrations, perhaps cheap optical rotary encoder
could do the same. You perhaps should find out what kind of encoders are
used and then search the web what kind of failure is known for that kind
of rotary encoder and as the case may be, how to clean them.
8:47 a.m.
On 09/10/2014 06:35 PM, Gerald Mwangi wrote:
Two of these are spoilt with the behaviour that on
turning
the knob some values are skipped (meaning I have to wind and wind and
wind till I have the correct value).
Hi Gerald,
Did you check with BC Manager if those encoders are programmed the way
you want?
Jeremy
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