11 Jun
2018
11 Jun
'18
11:41 p.m.
I am part of a community effort to buy a PA for band use.
Being 2018 we will want remote mixing. (Where a network take the place
of a snake).
I am nervous about buying gear that Apple or Microsoft will deprecate.
Is there any body making remote mixers with open APIs that if they are
abandoned by our corporate overlords will still be useful? Any
experience building alternative controllers for remote mixers?
Worik
--
If not me then who? If not now then when? If not here then where?
So, here I stand, I can do no other
root(a)worik.org 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand)
12 Jun
12 Jun
12:03 a.m.
"network take the place of a snake"
there are two functions associated with a mixer that you might use the
network for:
(1) control of the mixer
(2) distribution of actual audio signal (in digital form)
which one are you thinking about? both?
what type of network? wifi might work for (1), but is almost certainly way
too unreliable for (2) in most live settings.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:41 PM, worik <root(a)worik.org> wrote:
I am part of a community effort to buy a PA for band
use.
Being 2018 we will want remote mixing. (Where a network take the place
of a snake).
I am nervous about buying gear that Apple or Microsoft will deprecate.
Is there any body making remote mixers with open APIs that if they are
abandoned by our corporate overlords will still be useful? Any
experience building alternative controllers for remote mixers?
Worik
--
If not me then who? If not now then when? If not here then where?
So, here I stand, I can do no other
root(a)worik.org 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand)
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12:10 a.m.
On 12/06/18 10:03, Paul Davis wrote:
network take the place of a snake"
there are two functions associated with a mixer that you might use the
network for:
(1) control of the mixer
(2) distribution of actual audio signal (in digital form)
#1
W
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If not me then who? If not now then when? If not here then where?
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root(a)worik.org 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand)
2:20 a.m.
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, Paul Davis wrote:
"network take the place of a snake"
there are two functions associated with a mixer that you might use the network
for:
(1) control of the mixer
(2) distribution of actual audio signal (in digital form)
which one are you thinking about? both?
what type of network? wifi might work for (1), but is almost certainly way too
unreliable for (2) in most live settings.
That is correct. However, if the mixer is controlable via wifi, the mixer
itself can sit on stage which will also do away with a snake. This setup
does not allow monitoring or recording at any other place than at the
stage though. That is no headphones at the back of the hall unless you
use icecast or something and accept 500ms latency or so.
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3:52 a.m.
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, Len Ovens wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, Paul Davis wrote:
I have an X32Rack, which I leave on stage and control via Wifi and a 3rd party
Android app.
Two years ago, I picked up an inexpensive (US$180 Demo unit) wireless in-ear
monitor rig, which I installed in my mixer rack and wired to the controlroom
outputs, so now I can 'solo' and monitor any input from anywhere.
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what type of network? wifi might work for (1),
but is almost certainly way
too
unreliable for (2) in most live settings.
That is correct. However, if the mixer is controlable via wifi, the mixer
itself can sit on stage which will also do away with a snake. This setup does
not allow monitoring or recording at any other place than at the stage
though. That is no headphones at the back of the hall unless you use icecast
or something and accept 500ms latency or so.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
8:05 a.m.
On 12/06/18 13:52, Rick Green wrote:
I have an X32Rack, which I leave on stage and
control via Wifi and a
3rd party Android app.
Is this
http://www.musictri.be/Categories/Behringer/Mixers/Digital/X32-RACK/p/P0AWN
it? WWhere did you get the Android app?
W
--
If not me then who? If not now then when? If not here then where?
So, here I stand, I can do no other
root(a)worik.org 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand)
11:15 a.m.
Am 12.06.2018 um 08:05 schrieb worik:
On 12/06/18 13:52, Rick Green wrote:
Hello worik,
you can find 2 Mixingstation apps for the X32/M32 family in the Google
Play store, a free one and a "pro" version which will cost something.
With the "Pro" version you can layout customizable layers and such.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.davidgiga1993.mixingstati…
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.davidgiga1993.mixingstati…
Greetings and God bless,
Marius
I have an X32Rack, which I leave on stage and
control via Wifi and a
3rd party Android app.
Is this
http://www.musictri.be/Categories/Behringer/Mixers/Digital/X32-RACK/p/P0AWN
it? WWhere did you get the Android app? W
1:13 p.m.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, worik wrote:
On 12/06/18 13:52, Rick Green wrote:
Yes, that's the one I have, and there are four other versions as well,
that
differ only in the size of the local I/O and control surface. The same mixer is
also sold under the Midas brand name, with larger buttons and brighter LEDs.
WWhere did you get the Android app?
On the Google Play store. There is both a free and inexpensive 'pro' version.
--
Rick Green
We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's
Citizens United ruling, and move to amend our Constitution to firmly establish
that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons
entitled to constitutional rights.
http://www.MoveToAmend.org
I have an X32Rack, which I leave on stage and
control via Wifi and a
3rd party Android app.
Is this
http://www.musictri.be/Categories/Behringer/Mixers/Digital/X32-RACK/p/P0AWN
it?
3:45 a.m.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, worik wrote:
I am part of a community effort to buy a PA for band
use.
Being 2018 we will want remote mixing. (Where a network take the place
of a snake).
I am nervous about buying gear that Apple or Microsoft will deprecate.
Is there any body making remote mixers with open APIs that if they are
abandoned by our corporate overlords will still be useful? Any
experience building alternative controllers for remote mixers?
Worik
Yes. The Behringer/Midas X32/M32 family of mixers is responsive to the
openly-documented OSC protocol. I have owned an X32Rack for three years, and
happily prefer to control it with a 3rd party, independently developed Android
App called 'Mixing Station' rather than the Windows, OSX and iOS apps that the
manufacturer provides.
Apparently, I'm not alone in my opinion, and the manufacturer took notice. A
while ago, they introduced another line of smaller mixers, dubbed 'X Air', and
for them, they included an android 'official' app on their website. Not
surprisingly, it looks and feels more like the X32 Mixing station than any
version of X32Edit for Win, iOS, or OSX. I suspect they 'adopted' the developer
and contracted him to do the Xair version...
Last time I looked, the X32 official website even mentions the existence of
Mixing Station, and refers Android users to find it on the Play store.
--
Rick Green
We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's
Citizens United ruling, and move to amend our Constitution to firmly establish
that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons
entitled to constitutional rights.
http://www.MoveToAmend.org
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