Hi Tim. Just out of academic interest I thought I'd send you "my" fix for getting the tarball install of TiMidity 2.13.2 working. Just trash this if your not interested. On FC2, install with apt-get, timidity++-2.11.3-9. Next, with KDE's superuser file manager or the CLI, copy /usr/share/timidity to /home/user_name/timidity. Then copy /etc/timidity.cfg to /home/user_name/timidity.conf. Next. Uninstall the timidity++-2.11.3-9 install, which only has run from CLI or ncurses interfaces. Next run ./configure for the 2.13.2 version which you have unpacked and waiting for action in your /home/user_name directory. Syntax follows. ./configure --enable-debug --enable-audio=alsa,jack --enable-interface=ncurses,emacs,gtk --enable-spectogram (enter) make (enter) make install (su to root then enter) So far so good. Now, open Kde's superuser file manager again or use cp from the CLI, and copy /home/user_name/timidity to /usr/local/share/timidity, and /home/user_name/timidity.cfg to /etc/timidity.conf. Now this didn't work first go, as the /etc/timidity.conf was looking for the GUS patches is /usr/share timidity, and I got errors showing that. So a bit more work, and copying the /home/user_name/timidity to /usr/share/timidity as well, fixed this. This was probably something to do with the file in /etc being connected with the directory in /usr/share from the original rpm install. Anyway it works. The gtk interface is the best. Ncurses isn't much better than running it from the CLI, and I'm a bit clueless about the Emacs one. There are probably easier ways to go about this, but as I'm having problems posting to the timidity list, (my ISP) I've had to sort this out for myself. I think there is something to be said for finding yourself blocked from posting legitimately to lists. It makes you work harder to solve your own problems. Icons. Icons. I havn't checked the bunch of icons you sent me, but attached is the TiMidity one from version 2.13.2 in case you don't have it. All the best. Nigel.