8 May
2013
8 May
'13
2:05 p.m.
2013/5/5 Carlos sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>om>:
One step more, this time with success.
Given the situation mentioned before I tried to step back a little.
First, I tried only to run jack using jackstart script again. A few
tweaks and could make jack to work, but sound had glitches and
crackles whatever config I tried.
Second, I stepped back a little more.
I executed again Ampbrownie setup.sh with option 2 (update and install
additional packages). During this it changed jackd2 to jack1
uninstalling it. This could be installed before as a dependence of
some of the apps I installed in addition to those that setup.sh script
install (maybe sooperlooper or rakarrack, not sure).
Then, I noticed during rebooting that USB is only 1.1, so I changed
the hardware switch on the back of the UA from advanced driver to
normal.
One more reboot and... Voila! Sounds was almost perfect and delay
acceptable, practically RT, connecting in to out and using Rakarrack
with some basic effects.
Don't know if this success is due to some newer versions it appears to
have been updated on repos that are newer than those installed on
first run of setup.sh, or maybe some of the modifications mentioned
flicked the switch.
I made a backup with dd, of course, and I'm moving towards setting up
RPi as a Jam/Improv/Live headless station: boot an then run Rackarrack
as a multifx connected to Sooperlooper/Freewheeling as a looper, using
an external audio card and a MIDI-USB pedalboard. And then improving
step by step until reaching the limit on RPi processing and
overclocking.
In the future I have more plans in mind, but for now that's it.
BTW, I managed to connect a second usb device without RPi rebooting
because of problems with power with two USB power adapters.
So now I have:
- 1 USB power adapter to the RPi,
- 1 USB stick for the system partition on USB port1,
- 1 4 USB hub on USB port 2 (where external audio card and MIDI-USB
pedalboard is connected)
- 1 USB power adapter to the second mini-USB port on the MIDI-USB
pedalboard that helps to feed it and to stable the overall setup.
I think both USB power adapters are mobile adapters, I think 0,7A and
0,5A, so maybe with just one USB power adapter at 2A for the RPi I
could connect all this and a qwerty keyboard and something else, which
now I can't. That or just a powered USB hub, but that is more
expensive.
Hope it helps.
Thanks all and Regards.
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
2013/5/3 Carlos sanchiavedraz
<csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>om>:
> Hello all,
>
>
> 2013/4/23 Carlos sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>om>:
>> 2013/4/22 Nicola <nicola.di.marzo(a)vodafone.it>it>:
>>> Il 22/04/2013 09:46, Carlos sanchiavedraz ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> 2013/4/19 Nicola <nicola.di.marzo(a)vodafone.it>it>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 19/04/2013 19:54, Jeremy Jongepier ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/19/2013 11:11 AM, Nicola wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's great, "keep it simple" i should
say...that's why i think it's
>>>>>>> brilliant!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep an eye on http://ampbrownie.com/ then, it's an effort to
make it
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> simpler.
>>>>>
> [...]
(On last few days I sent two more responses but... only to Nicola
instead to the list, so here they are. Things that happen.
And I add one more step)
I gave it another shot.
This time around I started with a stock Wheezy Raspbian
(2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian) and executed inside the Ambrownie config
script.
Step 1, raspi-config, went well except for an error when trying to
expand the memory. Well, I think it is because it is fixed to expand
an sd card at /dev/mmcblk0 and I'm using an usb stick at sda. This is
no problem for the moment.
Step 2, updating and installing specific packages from autostatic and
others, went well or it seemed so. I connect through "ssh -X" and
executed Qjackctl to make first config, but every time I tried to
start Jack it throws an error that it cannot start. Tried different
configs but no luck.
I didn't connect any soundcard yet.
I would like to know if anybody tried this script with success.
Regards.
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
A few steps ahead more.
I red again the wiki and got to start Jack with the onboard soundcard
just as it says: jackd -d dummy.
Then I tried to start jack with the UA25EX. I pluged the usb/power
cable to a laptop this time, instead of using the mobile usb charger
as before, and RPi doesn't reboot. Great.
Now I tried to start jack on RPi through Qjackctl on the laptop with
ssh -X. Jack crashed every time. I tried on RPi itself and same thing.
Then I checked jack log, ps -A and realized that pulseaudio was
running and jack couldn't have access to the device. I made a quick
search and then I made two things:
1) created a config file to prevent pulseaudio to restart every time
It is killed: ~/.pulse/client.conf with "autospawn=no" inside.
2) kill pulseaudio with "pulseaudio -k" when I run jack, and
configured same thing on Qjackctl preferences to execute it before
starting jack.
So now I have an RPi that can start jack using UA.
But now there is the next problem: jack starts ok but when I try to
connect any program (sooperlooper i.e.) or just system-in to
system-out ports the driver crashes (that what messages say), lights
on UA switch off and, oddly enough, jack still running.
That's it for the moment.
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es 
8 May
8 May
2:41 p.m.
New subject: Fwd: Re: Raspberry Pi and real-time, low-latency audio
[...]
>
> A few steps ahead more.
>
> I red again the wiki and got to start Jack with the onboard soundcard
> just as it says: jackd -d dummy.
>
Hello Carlos,
JACK should now work with the onboard audio if you're using the latest
kernel and firmware updates.
> Then I tried to start jack with the UA25EX. I
pluged the usb/power
> cable to a laptop this time, instead of using the mobile usb charger
> as before, and RPi doesn't reboot. Great.
You really need an adapter that does at least 2A. Using your laptop to
power a RPi and an USB audio interface most likely won't work.
> Now I tried to start jack on RPi through Qjackctl
on the laptop with
> ssh -X. Jack crashed every time. I tried on RPi itself and same thing.
> Then I checked jack log, ps -A and realized that pulseaudio was
> running and jack couldn't have access to the device. I made a quick
> search and then I made two things:
>
> 1) created a config file to prevent pulseaudio to restart every time
> It is killed: ~/.pulse/client.conf with "autospawn=no" inside.
>
> 2) kill pulseaudio with "pulseaudio -k" when I run jack, and
> configured same thing on Qjackctl preferences to execute it before
> starting jack.
>
Afaik PulseAudio is not installed by default on the Raspbian image so
I've never encountered this issue myself.
> So now I have an RPi that can start jack using
UA.
> But now there is the next problem: jack starts ok but when I try to
> connect any program (sooperlooper i.e.) or just system-in to
> system-out ports the driver crashes (that what messages say), lights
> on UA switch off and, oddly enough, jack still running.
>
> That's it for the moment.
>
I've had the same issue. As you describe later you have to switch the
USB controller to USB 1.1 mode and disable Advanced mode on the UA-25.
[...]
One step more, this time with success.
Given the situation mentioned before I tried to step back a little.
First, I tried only to run jack using jackstart script again. A few
tweaks and could make jack to work, but sound had glitches and
crackles whatever config I tried.
Second, I stepped back a little more.
I executed again Ampbrownie setup.sh with option 2 (update and install
additional packages). During this it changed jackd2 to jack1
uninstalling it. This could be installed before as a dependence of
some of the apps I installed in addition to those that setup.sh script
install (maybe sooperlooper or rakarrack, not sure).
Then, I noticed during rebooting that USB is only 1.1, so I changed
the hardware switch on the back of the UA from advanced driver to
normal.
One more reboot and... Voila! Sounds was almost perfect and delay
acceptable, practically RT, connecting in to out and using Rakarrack
with some basic effects.
The AmpBrownie script definitely needs some more refining. I've forked
it in my GitHub (https://github.com/AutoStatic/ampbrownie) to make the
necessary adjustments so Adam of AmpBrownie can merge them back again.
Don't know if this success is due to some newer
versions it appears to
have been updated on repos that are newer than those installed on
first run of setup.sh, or maybe some of the modifications mentioned
flicked the switch.
It's because of the controller switched to USB1.1 mode and your UA-25
running in non-advanced mode. And Jack1 also plays a role, from my
experience it runs better than Jack2 on the RPi.
I made a backup with dd, of course, and I'm moving
towards setting up
RPi as a Jam/Improv/Live headless station: boot an then run Rackarrack
as a multifx connected to Sooperlooper/Freewheeling as a looper, using
an external audio card and a MIDI-USB pedalboard. And then improving
step by step until reaching the limit on RPi processing and
overclocking.
Maybe this could be helpful:
https://github.com/AutoStatic/scripts/tree/rpi/rpi
https://github.com/AutoStatic/configs/tree/rpi/rpi
In the future I have more plans in mind, but for now
that's it.
BTW, I managed to connect a second usb device without RPi rebooting
because of problems with power with two USB power adapters.
So now I have:
- 1 USB power adapter to the RPi,
- 1 USB stick for the system partition on USB port1,
So you're running from an USB stick? I've tried this when testing a RT
kernel but performance was horrible. But maybe this was because of the
RT kernel.
- 1 4 USB hub on USB port 2 (where external audio card
and MIDI-USB
pedalboard is connected)
- 1 USB power adapter to the second mini-USB port on the MIDI-USB
pedalboard that helps to feed it and to stable the overall setup.
I think both USB power adapters are mobile adapters, I think 0,7A and
0,5A, so maybe with just one USB power adapter at 2A for the RPi I
could connect all this and a qwerty keyboard and something else, which
now I can't. That or just a powered USB hub, but that is more
expensive.
I'm using a powered hub with a 3.7A adapter which is more than enough. I
bought this hub for €3, wouldn't call that expensive ;)
Regards,
Jeremy
Hope it helps.
Thanks all and Regards.
14 May
14 May
10:06 a.m.
New subject: Fwd: Re: Raspberry Pi and real-time, low-latency audio
Hello, Jeremy.
2013/5/8 Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>om>:
Great, I came to same conclusion given what I've been experimenting:
at least 2A.
Don't know which program did install it. Anyway, when I came to
another point of safe and functional configuration I'll make another
system image starting from stock Raspbian, to clean anything rarity
caused in the process.
Do you mean there is something to configure on RPi? If it is so I
think something did it. I didn't touched anything on RPi related to
USB, I just disabled Advanced mode on the UA25 turning off the switch
on the back, and I guess this is what cause the switching to 1.1. Is
it so? If not it would be great to know exactly what else to control
the situation in the future.
We're refining the situation, great.
Sure it will, thanks for sharing.
As the mini SD 2G card was corrupted, I just use a 64MB for the boot
partition where I specify /dev/sda2 as the system partition. For the
moment it all went quite well. As I mentioned before, it runs RT
without a problem.
That's really cheap. I have to find something similar to avoid more
power issues.
[...]
Ok, good to know. At the moment my SD stick is almost full (2GB) and I
cannot upgrade.
>
> A few steps ahead more.
>
> I red again the wiki and got to start Jack with the onboard soundcard
> just as it says: jackd -d dummy.
>
Hello Carlos,
JACK should now work with the onboard audio if you're using the latest
kernel and firmware updates.
> Then I tried to start jack with the UA25EX. I
pluged the usb/power
> cable to a laptop this time, instead of using the mobile usb charger
> as before, and RPi doesn't reboot. Great.
You really need an adapter that does at least 2A. Using your laptop to power
a RPi and an USB audio interface most likely won't work.
> Now I tried to start jack on RPi through
Qjackctl on the laptop with
> ssh -X. Jack crashed every time. I tried on RPi itself and same thing.
> Then I checked jack log, ps -A and realized that pulseaudio was
> running and jack couldn't have access to the device. I made a quick
> search and then I made two things:
>
> 1) created a config file to prevent pulseaudio to restart every time
> It is killed: ~/.pulse/client.conf with "autospawn=no" inside.
>
> 2) kill pulseaudio with "pulseaudio -k" when I run jack, and
> configured same thing on Qjackctl preferences to execute it before
> starting jack.
>
Afaik PulseAudio is not installed by default on the Raspbian image so I've
never encountered this issue myself.
> So now I have an RPi that can start jack
using UA.
> But now there is the next problem: jack starts ok but when I try to
> connect any program (sooperlooper i.e.) or just system-in to
> system-out ports the driver crashes (that what messages say), lights
> on UA switch off and, oddly enough, jack still running.
>
> That's it for the moment.
>
I've had the same issue. As you describe later you have to switch the USB
controller to USB 1.1 mode and disable Advanced mode on the UA-25.
[...]
Great.
One step more, this time with success.
Given the situation mentioned before I tried to step back a little.
First, I tried only to run jack using jackstart script again. A few
tweaks and could make jack to work, but sound had glitches and
crackles whatever config I tried.
Second, I stepped back a little more.
I executed again Ampbrownie setup.sh with option 2 (update and install
additional packages). During this it changed jackd2 to jack1
uninstalling it. This could be installed before as a dependence of
some of the apps I installed in addition to those that setup.sh script
install (maybe sooperlooper or rakarrack, not sure).
Then, I noticed during rebooting that USB is only 1.1, so I changed
the hardware switch on the back of the UA from advanced driver to
normal.
One more reboot and... Voila! Sounds was almost perfect and delay
acceptable, practically RT, connecting in to out and using Rakarrack
with some basic effects.
The AmpBrownie script definitely needs some more refining. I've forked it in
my GitHub (https://github.com/AutoStatic/ampbrownie) to make the necessary
adjustments so Adam of AmpBrownie can merge them back again.
Don't know if this success is due to some
newer versions it appears to
have been updated on repos that are newer than those installed on
first run of setup.sh, or maybe some of the modifications mentioned
flicked the switch.
It's because of the controller switched to USB1.1 mode and your UA-25
running in non-advanced mode. And Jack1 also plays a role, from my
experience it runs better than Jack2 on the RPi.
I made a backup with dd, of course, and I'm
moving towards setting up
RPi as a Jam/Improv/Live headless station: boot an then run Rackarrack
as a multifx connected to Sooperlooper/Freewheeling as a looper, using
an external audio card and a MIDI-USB pedalboard. And then improving
step by step until reaching the limit on RPi processing and
overclocking.
Maybe this could be helpful:
https://github.com/AutoStatic/scripts/tree/rpi/rpi
https://github.com/AutoStatic/configs/tree/rpi/rpi
In the future I have more plans in mind, but for
now that's it.
BTW, I managed to connect a second usb device without RPi rebooting
because of problems with power with two USB power adapters.
So now I have:
- 1 USB power adapter to the RPi,
- 1 USB stick for the system partition on USB port1,
So you're running from an USB stick? I've tried this when testing a RT
kernel but performance was horrible. But maybe this was because of the RT
kernel.
- 1 4 USB hub on USB port 2 (where external audio
card and MIDI-USB
pedalboard is connected)
- 1 USB power adapter to the second mini-USB port on the MIDI-USB
pedalboard that helps to feed it and to stable the overall setup.
I think both USB power adapters are mobile adapters, I think 0,7A and
0,5A, so maybe with just one USB power adapter at 2A for the RPi I
could connect all this and a qwerty keyboard and something else, which
now I can't. That or just a powered USB hub, but that is more
expensive.
I'm using a powered hub with a 3.7A adapter which is more than enough. I
bought this hub for €3, wouldn't call that expensive ;)
Regards,
Jeremy
Thanks so much, Jeremy.
--
Carlos sanchiavedraz
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hope it helps.
Thanks all and Regards.
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12:07 p.m.
New subject: Fwd: Re: Raspberry Pi and real-time, low-latency audio
I've had
the same issue. As you describe later you have to switch the USB
controller to USB 1.1 mode and disable Advanced mode on the UA-25.
Do you mean there is something to configure on RPi? If it is so I
think something did it. I didn't touched anything on RPi related to
USB, I just disabled Advanced mode on the UA25 turning off the switch
on the back, and I guess this is what cause the switching to 1.1. Is
it so? As the mini SD 2G card was corrupted, I just use a
64MB for the boot
partition where I specify /dev/sda2 as the system partition. For the
moment it all went quite well. As I mentioned before, it runs RT
without a problem.
Have to give it another go then. Audio in my case was so glitchy that it
was unusable actually.
I'm using
a powered hub with a 3.7A adapter which is more than enough. I
bought this hub for €3, wouldn't call that expensive ;)
That's really cheap. I have to find something similar to avoid more
power issues.
1:51 p.m.
New subject: Fwd: Re: Raspberry Pi and real-time, low-latency audio
2013/5/14 Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>om>:
Hello Carlos,
Not sure, I should try that out myself. Afaik disabling advanced mode is not
enough, you should also add dwc_otg.speed=1 to your /boot/cmdline.txt file.
It's strange because that's what I did, disabling it in the UA. It was
messages like "USB 1.1 ..." when booting what led me to try switching
Advanced Mode to off in the UA25.
My cmdline.txt should be the same as Raspbian's although I made a
change to boot from usb stick.
dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200
console=tty1 root=/dev/sda2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
I have good experiences with dx.com (DealExtreme):
http://dx.com/s/usb%2bhub%2bac%2badapter.html?sort=Price
The hub I'm using now:
http://www.amazon.de/7-Port-gerichtet-leichteren-Zugang-Staubverschlu%C3%9F…
Regards,
Jeremy
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I've had the same issue. As you describe later you
have to switch the USB
controller to USB 1.1 mode and disable Advanced mode on the UA-25.
Do you mean there is something to configure on RPi? If it is so I
think something did it. I didn't touched anything on RPi related to
USB, I just disabled Advanced mode on the UA25 turning off the switch
on the back, and I guess this is what cause the switching to 1.1. Is
it so? [...]
I did nothing special, so it should go ok or perhaps there's some
issue in your case/with your usb stick.
As the mini SD 2G card was corrupted, I just use
a 64MB for the boot
partition where I specify /dev/sda2 as the system partition. For the
moment it all went quite well. As I mentioned before, it runs RT
without a problem.
Have to give it another go then. Audio in my case was so glitchy that it was
unusable actually.
I'm using a powered hub with a 3.7A adapter which
is more than enough. I
bought this hub for €3, wouldn't call that expensive ;)
That's really cheap. I have to find something similar to avoid more
power issues.
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