5 Aug
2011
5 Aug
'11
2:21 p.m.
> I am not a marketing expert, but words like
'Linux', 'FLOSS' might be
> frightening people. 'Opensource', 'Ardour' and 'Ubuntu' (and
probably
> Creative Commons) are words which lay much better in 'the market'...
I cannot begin to describe how much I disagree with
"rebranding" what is
being done to make it go big. Sure "open source" is a nice term, and
"create
commons" is too, but one should stand with what it is that your *actually
doing*, and dimming it down for people getting into the scene is not going
to improve the situation in the long run. Turning them into a veteran linux
audio guys: that's a better goal.
Restating: I disagree with the idea of
"marketing" names for what we do.
People will be draw to the comunity *because* of what we do, not because of
*how we brand* what we do.
Unfortunately, I won't agree there!
The company I work for produce software (a very VERY big company), and
they have a whole department for branding.
I know it is "sad", and as a developer, I feel that "if it is a good
software, they will come"...
But...not so...
May be rebranding is the wrong idea though.
GNU is (one of) the License for Open Source Software.
CC is (one of) the License for Artistic Content.
We might need out own brand for the advertising part! (A new step in
the Business Model).
Another thing I was thinking about is this: When we release a
software, it's really easy to know it's an open source software, it
has the GNU License for example... For music rights, we have the CC
license...
What about creating a logo for music created only with open source software?
Instead of having in the description of my band "oh I use only open
source software blablabla", just a simple logo attached on the website
of the band...
I think somebody mentionned that Lord Of the Ring sound production was
done in Ardour... Imagine if on each poster of the movie there were
just a small logo claiming that!
Aurélien
5 Aug
5 Aug
3:19 p.m.
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:21:01 +0100
Aurélien Leblond <blablack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think somebody mentionned that Lord Of the Ring
sound production was
done in Ardour... Imagine if on each poster of the movie there were
just a small logo claiming that!
Really? Any references perhaps?
thanks
David
3:55 p.m.
Le 05/08/2011 14:21, Aurélien Leblond a écrit :
Another thing I was thinking about is this: When we
release a
software, it's really easy to know it's an open source software, it
has the GNU License for example... For music rights, we have the CC
license...
What about creating a logo for music created only with open source software?
Really like this idea !
"Made with Linux Audio Software" ?
Florent
--
Florent Berthaut
-----------------------------
Research on Immersive Virtual Musical Instruments
Software for audiovisual performance
Improvised Live-Looped Electronic Music
-----------------------------
http://www.hitmuri.net
5:18 p.m.
Le 05/08/2011 14:21, Aurélien Leblond a écrit :
You wanna design it?
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
Another thing I was thinking about is this: When
we release a
software, it's really easy to know it's an open source software, it
has the GNU License for example... For music rights, we have the CC
license...
What about creating a logo for music created only with open source
software?
Really like this idea !
"Made with Linux Audio Software" ?
5:54 p.m.
Le 05/08/2011 17:17, pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com a écrit :
Ah ah ah
No no, this should be done by someone with graphic design skills ;)
--
Florent Berthaut
-----------------------------
Research on Immersive Virtual Musical Instruments
Software for audiovisual performance
Improvised Live-Looped Electronic Music
-----------------------------
http://www.hitmuri.net
Really like
this idea !
"Made with Linux Audio Software" ?
You wanna design it?
6 Aug
6 Aug
3:48 p.m.
Another thing
I was thinking about is this: When we release a
software, it's really easy to know it's an open source software, it
has the GNU License for example... For music rights, we have the CC
license...
What about creating a logo for music created only with open source
software?
Really like this idea !
"Made with Linux Audio Software" ?
3:52 p.m.
Le 06/08/2011 15:48, Aurélien Leblond a écrit :
What do you think? A logo only for
music creation or any art creation?
We might have both.
Maybe start with a music creation one, and ask the other communities for
their opinion on a general one.
Another thing I was thinking about is this: When we
release a
software, it's really easy to know it's an open source software, it
has the GNU License for example... For music rights, we have the CC
license...
What about creating a logo for music created only with open source
software?
Really like this idea !
"Made with Linux Audio Software" ? If it is music creation only, I might have an idea...
Yep ?
--
Florent Berthaut
-----------------------------
Research on Immersive Virtual Musical Instruments
Software for audiovisual performance
Improvised Live-Looped Electronic Music
-----------------------------
http://www.hitmuri.net
5 Aug
5 Aug
4:31 p.m.
On 08/05/2011 02:21 PM, Aurélien Leblond wrote:
I think somebody mentionned that Lord Of the Ring
sound production was
done in Ardour...
I doubt that, the Linux reference is probably about the rendering of the
visual effects, that was probably done on Linux renderfarms running some
proprietary stuff. Some googling:
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/705.wss
Best,
Jeremy
5:34 p.m.
On 08/05/2011 02:21 PM, Aurélien Leblond wrote:
Yeah, they have some very cool proprietary software
http://www.massivesoftware.com/ but a lot of the work they and others in
the film/tv industry do gets feedback into various projects which we all
use. Ardour being one of them through support from Harrison.
On the topic of visual Linux it would be nice if someone had the energy to
go through this youtube page and submit all the good ones to
http://linuxmusicvideos.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=linux+audio&aq=f
Also it would be nice if people remembered to submit their videos to the
site when they do the upload.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
I think somebody mentionned that Lord Of the Ring
sound production was
done in Ardour...
I doubt that, the Linux reference is probably about the rendering of the
visual effects, that was probably done on Linux renderfarms running some
proprietary stuff. Some googling:
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/705.wss
7 Aug
7 Aug
11:24 a.m.
2011/8/5 <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>om>:
On the topic of visual Linux it would be nice if someone had the energy to
go through this youtube page and submit all the good ones to
http://linuxmusicvideos.com
Also it would be nice if people remembered to submit their videos to the
site when they do the upload.
Note:
For video tutorials, there is a section in the wiki already:
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/tutorials/start#video_tutorials
--
E.R.
10:46 p.m.
2011/8/5 <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com>om>:
So, there's really no excuse for people not to share their video content
and make it easier for the moderators to keep things upto date :-)
Are there any other locations that collate or host linuxaudio
video/music/samples/etc...?
So far I know of these ones:
http://lam.fugal.net/
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/tutorials/start
http://linuxmusicvideos.com
http://linuxmao.org/tikiwiki/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=3 - took me
a while to find, btw, buried deep in a dropdown menu. Someone might want
to make that link a little more obvious on the home page.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=linux+audio&aq=f
http://soundcloud.com/people/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=linux
http://bandcamp.com/tag/linux?artist=1485551842
Another interesting page idea is the studio/gallery page. Any more of
these around?
http://ardour.org/node/3248
http://linuxmao.org/tikiwiki/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=3
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
On the topic of visual Linux it would be nice if someone had the energy
to
go through this youtube page and submit all the good ones to
http://linuxmusicvideos.com
Also it would be nice if people remembered to submit their videos to the
site when they do the upload.
Note:
For video tutorials, there is a section in the wiki already:
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/tutorials/start#video_tutorials
5 Aug
5 Aug
5:09 p.m.
> I am not a
marketing expert, but words like 'Linux', 'FLOSS' might be
> frightening people. 'Opensource', 'Ardour' and 'Ubuntu' (and
probably
> Creative Commons) are words which lay much better in 'the market'...
I cannot begin to describe how much I disagree
with "rebranding" what is
being done to make it go big. Sure "open source" is a nice term, and
"create
commons" is too, but one should stand with what it is that your *actually
doing*, and dimming it down for people getting into the scene is not
going
to improve the situation in the long run. Turning them into a veteran
linux
audio guys: that's a better goal.
Restating: I disagree with the idea of
"marketing" names for what we do.
People will be draw to the comunity *because* of what we do, not because
of
*how we brand* what we do.
Unfortunately, I won't agree there!
The company I work for produce software (a very VERY big company), and
they have a whole department for branding.
I know it is "sad", and as a developer, I feel that "if it is a good
software, they will come"...
But...not so...
May be rebranding is the wrong idea though.
GNU is (one of) the License for Open Source Software.
CC is (one of) the License for Artistic Content.
We might need out own brand for the advertising part! (A new step in
the Business Model).
Another thing I was thinking about is this: When we release a
software, it's really easy to know it's an open source software, it
has the GNU License for example... For music rights, we have the CC
license...
What about creating a logo for music created only with open source
software?
Instead of having in the description of my band "oh I use only open
source software blablabla", just a simple logo attached on the website
of the band...
I think somebody mentionned that Lord Of the Ring sound production was
done in Ardour... Imagine if on each poster of the movie there were
just a small logo claiming that!
5:10 p.m.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Aurélien Leblond <blablack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think so :)
-Harry
The company I work for produce software (a very VERY
big company), and
they have a whole department for branding.
I know it is "sad", and as a developer, I feel that "if it is a good
software, they will come"...
But...not so...
I'll easily belive that a big company has a whole department for branding.
But I think this is a little out of the context of what I initially said.
I'm a single developer, working on my hobby project because I enjoy it and
like to use it. Would I like it if more pople used it? Yeah sure. Am I going
to go overboard rebranding my software to seem like the commercial /
proprietary alternatives, and try and attract attention to my project in
this way? I won't.
On the other hand, would I use the #linuxaudio tag to publicize a release /
update? Yes. I have no problem with *publicizing* information, and perhaps
even purposefully targeting it at a certain audience (whether they be
beginners or veterans), as this doesn't affect the information itself. But
changing the information that is being spread around *for the purpose of
promotion* is not something I think is a good idea.
May be rebranding is the wrong idea though.
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