On 05/05/11 00:28, Daniel Worth wrote: Consider a fictional band working here in Australia, trying to get to the point they may be able to actually pay themselves more than a bit of beer money, or perhaps even interest the distributor mentioned above. 5 musicians, doing some live gigs, sometimes touring interstate, paying for someone to mix and the travel costs from the fees they are paid before they get to pay themselves. They rent a place to rehearse, covering some of that rent by sharing it with other bands who pay them when the need it. They have some merchandise and cds they are selling at gigs etc, and are using that revenue to pay for studio time and someone to record them. To make some live opportunities for themselves they organise some events where they hire the venue and pay the technical costs, as well as organising several other bands to play, they pay these costs out of the door takings, and pay themselves and the other bands a split of what is left. The band will quite easily be over the $100,000 revenue while they are just earning pocket money as actual income for themselves. That $2000 would be much more usefully spent paying an engineer to help get a recording done than paying for the right to have mp3s on their laptop to play (or send) to someone who may be interested in their work. Mostly such a group chooses the 'pirate' path, but perhaps it's more in their interests to use a format that isn't considered illegal here without the $2000 payment to an organisation who are paying their employees and shareholders much more than pocket money.