15 Jan
2009
15 Jan
'09
12:16 a.m.
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 18:01:06 Loki Davison wrote:
D/A conversion isn't done in the box with the
sound card i mentioned,
the echo 3g i have. Google for pics. But on cards where it is, sounds
quality / isolation / noise is still far better than most usb cards.
The whole usb / out of box thing is cheesy sales pitch basically. Get
a cheap pci card => be happy. Look at anything with envy chip
basically and m-audio delta, echo's cards, etc. Should find a much
better setup than a bunch of dodgy usb things. > than one card is a
really bad idea unless they are designed for it, and from my
experience, usb audio is a really bad idea on it own ;)
Thanks Loki. I appreciate
the help.
I actually have a M-Audio delta 1010LT. I found i could not play two streams
at the same time. So i hooked things up to the intelHD (onboard sound) and
was amazed at how much better it sounded. I was dumbstruck. A cloudiness was
gone and imaging was much more precise. I don't know what to say save that
my intelhd may have advanced past the Delta 1010LT. It's an old card and this
board is only year old.
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15 Jan
15 Jan
1:02 a.m.
New subject: surround sound with stereo usb DACs?
2009/1/15 Bearcat M. Şandor <hometheater(a)feline-soul.com>om>:
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 18:01:06 Loki Davison
wrote:
This sounds very, very strange. Same software setup? Jack? Try using
aqualung and play via jack a stereo stream to both and report back
results. It sounds like the 1010lt either must be either incorrectly
setup, working in the wrong mode or damaged. However if that isn't the
case it's interesting as well. Both running 24 bit at same sample
rate? Try both at 44.1 playing a 44.1 flac/ogg/mp3 source. Be streams
what do you mean? If you mean 2 programs playing at once, steam
numbers are basically unlimited with jack. If you mean distinct
channels on the 1010 are 10 out i think. Do you mean hardware mixing?
i.e multiple alsa/oss open to a single channel? Either way, this
sounds strange.
Loki
D/A conversion isn't done in the box with the
sound card i mentioned,
the echo 3g i have. Google for pics. But on cards where it is, sounds
quality / isolation / noise is still far better than most usb cards.
The whole usb / out of box thing is cheesy sales pitch basically. Get
a cheap pci card => be happy. Look at anything with envy chip
basically and m-audio delta, echo's cards, etc. Should find a much
better setup than a bunch of dodgy usb things. > than one card is a
really bad idea unless they are designed for it, and from my
experience, usb audio is a really bad idea on it own ;)
Thanks Loki. I appreciate
the help.
I actually have a M-Audio delta 1010LT. I found i could not play two streams
at the same time. So i hooked things up to the intelHD (onboard sound) and
was amazed at how much better it sounded. I was dumbstruck. A cloudiness was
gone and imaging was much more precise. I don't know what to say save that
my intelhd may have advanced past the Delta 1010LT. It's an old card and this
board is only year old.
4:47 a.m.
New subject: surround sound with stereo usb DACs?
Bearcat M. Şandor wrote:
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 18:01:06 Loki Davison
wrote:
I seriously doubt the HDA has gotten better than a 1010LT. More likely
you didn't have it or something else on the system setup right.
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D/A conversion isn't done in the box with the
sound card i mentioned,
the echo 3g i have. Google for pics. But on cards where it is, sounds
quality / isolation / noise is still far better than most usb cards.
The whole usb / out of box thing is cheesy sales pitch basically. Get
a cheap pci card => be happy. Look at anything with envy chip
basically and m-audio delta, echo's cards, etc. Should find a much
better setup than a bunch of dodgy usb things. > than one card is a
really bad idea unless they are designed for it, and from my
experience, usb audio is a really bad idea on it own ;)
Thanks Loki. I appreciate
the help.
I actually have a M-Audio delta 1010LT. I found i could not play two streams
at the same time. So i hooked things up to the intelHD (onboard sound) and
was amazed at how much better it sounded. I was dumbstruck. A cloudiness was
gone and imaging was much more precise. I don't know what to say save that
my intelhd may have advanced past the Delta 1010LT. It's an old card and this
board is only year old. 
8:39 a.m.
New subject: surround sound with stereo usb DACs?
On Thursday 15 January 2009 09:46:47 david wrote:
Bearcat M. Şandor wrote:
This is not a question about quality. Its about consumer cards allowing
several apps to open parallel streams. (One of the first to start this was the
soundblaster live.)
This comes with a huge quality drawback: As these different streams have
possibly different sampling rates and bit depths, the hardware chip is re-
sampling (and the intel hda is resampling everything to 48kHz). You can be
sure that these resampling-algorithms are not as good as the ones in the high-
quality range like the secret rabbit...
And alsa has worked around this "only one app at a time" problem long ago,
only distributions didn't pick it up the right way.
Arnold
I actually have a M-Audio delta 1010LT. I found i
could not play two
streams at the same time. So i hooked things up to the intelHD (onboard
sound) and was amazed at how much better it sounded. I was dumbstruck. A
cloudiness was gone and imaging was much more precise. I don't know
what to say save that my intelhd may have advanced past the Delta 1010LT.
It's an old card and this board is only year old.
I seriously doubt the HDA
has gotten better than a 1010LT. More likely
you didn't have it or something else on the system setup right.
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